Hard Drive Lifespan

Hey Jow Forums how long to modern ssd's last?
I have a 250gb samsung evo 860 as my main drive and 1tb hdd as my secondary drive. people recommended to me that i download directly to hdd to not wear my ssd down, but my workflow is so much easier if i download directly to my desktop (which can only be on the ssd), and then i move items to hdd. should i care about the lifespan at all?

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SSDs wear with writes. Modern SSDs are way more reliable than they used to be, but it's still a good practice to apply the same logic you use with software i.e. frequently accessed data on SSD and archival on HDD.
If your HDD is absolute trash and bottlenecks the rest of the system go ahead with downloading to the SSD, they're going down in price anyways and you're supposed to do backups anyways so failure won't be an issue. What do you mean specifically with easier workflow? Can't be arsed to change download directories?

decades longer than you will keep it.

the current ones they selling and every one is shilling as so cheap are quad nand they will die in like 3years the ones sold a year ago where triple nand they will like 5years the double ones they sold in the early 2010s last like 10years and the single nand before that last like 20years.

basically you guys are shilling how good value for money they are not but they will die in 3years or even faster if you download lots of anime and movies and shit and constantly switch up games or have games with big patches.

buying a ssd now is retarded buying a second hand one off some retard that was made before 2014 will last way longer than even a new one today. and be faster.

>evo 860
Yeah don't worry unless you aren't planning on upgrading in 20 years or so.

They last longer than HDDs and are more reliable.
When they ultimately fail, they safely turn into read-only mode.

>retards that don't know what Qnand is and think they have "improved"

they die faster now you retards that's why they are cheaper.

TLC is an easy 20 years at average use.

no they don't you dumb cunt you just praying to go your 2tb one you got on blackfirday isn't shit. it will be dead in 3years or less read up why they are actually cheaper now you mong.

modern HDD last longer than even the 1500$ single nand ssds from the 2000s which are the ones that last the longest and are used in servers still.

>oh no my $100 SSD might die in 10 years because I download files to it everyday

This is some NEET level paranoia.

>will die in 25 years instead of 30, oh no!

Fucking retard.

t. seething poorfag

you iditos said the same about MLC and TLC
both MLC and TLC are extremely cheap these days already, and are far more reliable than SLC was 10 years ago.

average use is browsing the internet and reading email

not installing steam games and downloading bluray rips you retard or streaming yt all day. that makes them last basically only last afue years.

For them to fail so you have to write the whole cells once a day for the 3 years and them some according to that reliable study. Normal use will easily carry you to 15-20 years.

this. get a good quality SSD and stop worrying.

>read up why they are actually cheaper now
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, you imbecile. Just stop embarrassing yourself.

>The Chink electronics in my SSD will last 15-20 years
Huh

>sad cunts that didn't read up what qnand was and why they actually got cheaper and want to convince them self they :"improved" when they didn't they have got cheaper via cramming more data in same space that makes them literally die 15x faster than the ones from 10years ago.

you guys are literally buying a meme thinking its a good deal and will be pissed off in 24months time when half your sectors are dead from downloading porn and streaming all day (which uses up SSD via page file)

wrong..
average use is literally what you said: gayming and caching shit daily.
nobody downloads bluray rips, unless they're fucking retarded with autism.
and TLC lasts an easy 15 years with constant writing like that pleb shit.

Says you without any proof or evidence. Amazing and highly believable.

you're a fucking retard. almost nobody offers QLC, dumbass.
as I SAID (if you could fucking read) the TLC of today is better than the SLC of 10 years ago. and I know far more than your dumbass does about it.
in 5-10 years QLC will be used all over and TLC as well. MLC is going to die just like SLC did.

The new 860 QVO is more reliable than the 840 EVO and I got that one because it did 15 years easily. The 860 EVO can easily last 30 years on heavy use.

move your desktop your hard drive (use symlink). problem solved.

also

>"workflow"
>just dumps shit directly on the desktop

yeah sure bud

but my 840evo is already older than that. My main OS drive with page file too and no problem in sight.

I run server software off mine, no fucks given. What did the 970 Pro offer again, 150 TB written? By the time I reach that on my system disk I will have switched SSDs twice over

Cant wait for those 4tb qlc drives so I can put all my porn on them. I hate waiting 2 seconds for the thumbnails to load.

I'm replacing a 840 Pro that's dying on me after 4 and a half years of use at 25% wear level. It already is slower than an HDD.

Anyone who quotes 20+ years doesn't know shit.

the hdd is alright, i don't care about the download speed as much, i just don't want to change my workflow.
i'm a graphics designer and download assets such as templates, photos, videos and vectors all the time, and i find is much more convenient to have everything downloaded to my desktop from where i import it to a file, and after a couple of hours when i'm done with the project i delete what i don't need and store everything else in folders. i hate the extra step of navigating to the folder in explorer and dragging stuff from there, also the order gets messed up if you extract rar files, even if you sort by date modified.

i've heard people complaning on the forums so i chose not to mess with the location of my desktop on the hard drive, apparently there can be some issues when doing that and i don't want to bother with that right now.

thanks for the info, if the ssd would last about 20 years of average use as u say, i have at least good ten years of my heavy daily usage, which i'm more than happy with considering i got the ssd for 85€.

everyone cries about the NANDs having X amount of writes on them, but you have a 90% chance of something else failing before the shit can't be written to anymore because of writes.. old micro controllers with flash memory from 1960s have proven this over the past 50 years.. the writes are "3000 writes for sure" but they usually last in the tens of thousands. ALWAYS something else fails before that does.

I have used a single ADATA drive as my main drive (Windows, daily browsing, games, etc.) for over 7 years now and it still works like a charm, no errors.
SSDs last long enough.

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>Hey Jow Forums how long to modern ssd's last?

Heavily depends on the SSD in question. However, since normal home use is like 5-15 TBW per year, even the worst ones should last you 5+ years before they wear out.

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there are a few notable drives not mentioned in the chart because the testers haven't managed to kill them yet:
>ADATA Ultimate SU700 - >2151 TBW
>Intel SSD 760p - >2957 TBW, although SMART shows signs of degradation
>Intel SSD 600p - >3552 TBW
>Samsung 860 EVO - >2888 TBW
>Samsung 860 PRO - >2248 TBW
>Samsung 970 EVO - >1959 TBW

Massive slowdowns are usually caused by FW crapping out, not flash chips themselves. The 840 series was somewhat flaky, are you running the latest firmware on it?

>are you running the latest firmware on it?
Yes, and I don't have massive slowdowns I have massive intermittent hour long freezes without any fucking error anywhere. Everything that wants to write to any fucking storage media is freezing up, and resumes 1-50 minutes later like nothing fucking happened.

I have other miscellaneous issues like my computer fucking freezing for seconds when I quit my media player and so on and so forth.

Worn out flash doesn't lead to freezes either. The drive is faulty in some other way. The Pro series came with a 5 year warranty IIRC, so you should be able to get it replaced.

Samsung said I should go ahead and fuck myself, there is nothing wrong with the drive. Of course while the drive was in RMA I used a system I cloned off of it and it worked fine without any of these issues.

I've been using the same 500G Samsung 840 Evo for almost 6 years now. Installed multiple OSes and it's been in 4 different machines. Stop spreading FUD.

is it getting hot maybe?

Hasn't been over 38 °C during its entire lifespan.