Looking for a new email service. What are Jow Forums's thoughts on this?

Looking for a new email service. What are Jow Forums's thoughts on this?

What are some alternatives?

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runbox.com/
posteo.de/en
mailfence.com/
gnupg.org/
thunderbird.net/en-US/
mutt.org/
disroot.org/en
eprint.iacr.org/2018/1121.pdf
twitter.com/AnonBabble

cock.li

Use neither.
They do not allow you to use an external mail client like thunderbird or mutt with your own gpg setup. You are forced to use the (((web client))) with their own Javascript crypto.
Protonmail also has some shady shit going on. They technically have a way of using mail clients, but it requires that you run a proprietary, closed source, nonfree daemon on your computer. Furthermore, they can and will shut you down if they feel like it. pic related.

The best choice is to self host. If you can't/don't want to do that, consider purchasing a paid runbox, posteo, or mailfence account, and using it in tandem with your system's installation of GNU Privacy Guard and a Free Software mail client
runbox.com/
posteo.de/en
mailfence.com/
gnupg.org/
thunderbird.net/en-US/
mutt.org/

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Some of these services are gratis, but that's a separate issue. Recall that "free software" refers to freedom, not price.

Posteo: Fully compliant with LibreJS's standards, but a bug in LibreJS causes the site to not work when the plugin is enabled. Does not work without JS. Credit card payments do not work.
Riseup: Geared more toward activists - they have a manual screening process. Signup works, even when Javascript dis abled. SquirrelMail (works without JS) can be used to access webmail, POP/IMAP clients can also be used. To access Squirrel mail, access the online mail client page, and select the "old webmail(squirrelmail only)" link.
Some services will let you sign up and sign in without non-free JavaScript, and use IMAP/POP3 from a desktop program, but have broken webmail:
Kolab Now: Swiss based paid service focused on ensuring your privacy. Highly resistant to PRISM and similar programs. Runs on free software. Currently becoming LibreJS compliant.
Mailnesia.
Safe-mail.net. Signup and Login possible with LibreJS enabled. Select "Traditional" interface for webmail use. Mail server details also available for mail clients.
VFEmail (uses google syndication, and captcha - both non-free). After registering, you can use mailserver configuration details and use a mail client.

For privacy purposes, you may sometimes want to use a disposable email address for one or a small number of messages. These disposable email services have been verified to work without proprietary JavaScript:

10 Minute Email
Guerrilla Mail
Spam Gourmet

To ask about a mail service not listed here, or request corrections and updates, please send a mail to: monoverde at riseup dot net : with "Webmail System" in the subject line.

ProtonMail is pretty excellent, it's all I use now. The only complaint I have is one must pay in order to have more fields in Contacts than name and email address.

> self host

stop with that meme

Self hosting is a pain in the ass but it works just fine

Hello racist snowflake.

I agree with you but god that picture hurts my eyes

here's a quick edit, i mean i inow it sucks ass but at least i can delete the original picture off my device now and hopefully never see it again.

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Self hosting isn't really an option given the time required for maintenance. I will consider the points you have made (and incredibly hard to read picture), but for someone escaping from google it's probably not a bad start as a step from normie-mail.

What are the advantages of using thunderbird or similar?

Tutanota is better. Protonmail doesn't have an open source email app and doesn't work with 3rd party mail apps. It's basically a walled garden.

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good, all encryption is done on the sender's computer and all decryption is done on the reciever's computer. Only issues with is this is no imap without paying for a premium protonmail account.

just host your own mail server if you have the skills or knowledge

>sens your mail to Israeli tech company operated by former IDF personnel

No, thanks.

Google's Gmail is good I hear.
I got invited to the beta, and it seems okay so far.

Tutanota doesn't work with 3rd party mail apps either, victim to design

Proton let's you use your own gnupg keys and you can use a client like Thunderbird now too. Don't post FUD.

fpwp
enjoy having Vincent hand your data over to the feds

false, you can use 3rd party mail apps with PM. Tutanota is now compromised by German intelligence with backdoor keys you can't opt out of

I will look at the source code and security/encryption system this week, I have little prior knowledge to this comment:

- no independent client, hopefully the protocol has open specs and it's possible
- when opened in web browser, the whole fresh program is loaded to you, you have no control over that being the - version you have always used nor when update comes. could contain spyware
- which also mean that properly configured TLS (and TLS working but assume it does) is also a requirement
- web client made in Node.js. depends on dependencies and how much protonmail devs audit them, but even dependencies can steal keys
- my bigger question is how the login works, hopefully some client-side PAKE, otherwise you are sending them your privkey
- if you don't use their encryption method, you don't really need to care much about it, PGP is solid workaround for any email provider

but from technological standpoint - email is poorly designed anyway

does it work on Linux? at least with Wine?

Host your own.

Redpill me, why would I not just use a free email service like Yahoo or Gmail or Hotmail?

Gmail + gpg

major email providers are in bed with the NSA

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The android app relies on google play services :^)

disroot.org/en

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>What are some alternatives?
1337.no

Using encrypted email on a smartphone is like using a condom on someone with 10 strains of STD's

>Guerrilla Mail
That shit tracks your IP to use for sending emails. be careful user.

back to Jow Forums

fastmail

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>I don't understand the concepts of encryption or terms of service

eprint.iacr.org/2018/1121.pdf
>[...]ProtonMail simply should not claim end-to-end encryption except for use cases where both senders and recipients restrict themselves to ProtonMail's mobile applications[...]

lots of sites don't accept emails from emails that don't also have your phone number.

if you made google years ago and never used it on a android you might be good or linked it to a facebook that had ya number..

but otherwise you are fucked I think. its prob a NSA rule desu. you might be able to buy a old gmail account with no phone linked from someone but they all force it now and the ones that don't are not accepted on like 99% of sites.

I don't see this as a freedom issue. It's their service and they can deny it to anyone they want.

I haven't encountered a site that filters out emails. Any examples?

Fastmail is the greatest one around. Mailbox.org is pretty cheap too and has built-in mail encryption as well.

literally what?

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Can someone make a debunk copypasta for the NSA shills' "ProtonMail juice and sjw" bullshit already? I swear I see the same misinformation and lies every single time ProtonMail is mentioned.

ProtonMail works just fine. Been using it for quite some time now, ever had any issues with it.

People who recommend cock.li must be NEET because you can literally only use it for personal accounts.

lmao at "now" it's been a nazi slogan for literally decades you bunch of retards

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>hospitalize your local antifa scumbag
>hospitalize
Not inciting violence at all. I dislike antifa as much as the next guy, but the best solution would be to offer free, one-way flights to Syria.

afaik if you go for paid protonmail options you can access their imap server then use an external client

Yeah IMAP is a paid feature.

>3/30/11
>NSA agent finds out AOL is still around
>sends email to [email protected]
>"hey, I'll give you $20 for all of your user info"
>"sold!"

Read the post. You need to use a proprietary daemon to make it work, because that facilitates the javascript encryption shite

Been using Disroot.
IMAP is free to use
K-9 for mobile mail client.
Offers 2GB of storage vs 500MB.

>be organisation
>hey guys, hospitalise

I bet if the address was [email protected], they wouldn't have done anything. Can't look racist now.

i would stop using protonmail after the Cambridge Analytica incident... it's no longer a secure service because intelligence organisations around the world will be watching them like hawks

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Is Yandex mail good?

You being racist has nothing to do with encryption or being anonymous online. The whole fucking point of being an anonymous racist online is that you're ANONYMOUS. You don't fucking make your email slogans that identity you and share with untrusted people

>Riseup
They're literal revolutionary communists, I would not advise anyone to host their emails on their servers.

>ethnocentrism is nationalism socialism now
You're not very educated.