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Want help? >State your budget & CURRENCY >List your uses eg Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors include purpose and GPU pairing >NO Speccy. Use HWinfo >For Win7 in Ryzen pastebin.com/TUZvnmy1
CPU >CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700 - If you have a $2000+ budget and pairing with a 2080 or better >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM >Always choose at least a 2 stick kit >8GB - Bare minimum/Light desktop use. >16GB - Standard amount >32GB - If you have to ask, you don't need this >CPUs benefit from fast RAM; 2933MHz+ is ideal. Check "more" for true latency formula
Graphics cards >RTX 2000 cards; cheap models usually low yield processor. Aim for factory OC versions for best performance >use your due diligence with cheap MODELS ie MSI Armor (Mk2 is ok), Gigabyte G1/Wf, ASUS dual, and others w/ small heatsinks and low quality fans. They may be cheap, but won't get high boost clocks like better models 1080p >RX 570/580/1060 6GB - standard 1080p 60fps+ options 1080p@144hz >Vega 56/1070ti best value, Free/G-sync monitor highly recommended 1440p@60-75hz >Vega/1070ti/1080/2070 1440p@100+hz >1080ti/2080 4K >Upscale from 1620-1800p. Or 2080Ti, but awful value OpenCL use >Vega 64
Storage >Backup before using StoreMi >Consider a larger SSD (better GB/$) instead of small SSD & HDD >2TB HDDs are barely more $ than 1TB >M.2 is a form factor, NOT a performance standard
Display >Always consider FreeSync w/ AMD cards >START YOUR BUILD WITH A MONITOR FIRST, then make a build to drive it appropriately
repost but what is the difference between 950 and 1050ti except for memory? the 950 is larger and takes a power connector while the 1050ti is really small and does not even have a power connector
does the 950 have something else since it is so much bigger?
>CPUs less threads usually suffer lower 0.1% minimums >Athlon 200GE - Bare minimal desktop/gaming >R3 2200G - Light gaming(dGPU optional) >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k/8700 - If you have a $2000+ budget and pairing with a 2080 or better >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT I don't get it guys. Where are the famous Intel processors? I thought they were the best.
Jordan Wood
I think they're basically just the exact same except for memory
Chase Fisher
best board for ryzen 2700[x]? been looking at msi's gamer plus and tomahawk (450s)
Grayson Watson
950 is maxwell but apparently was made so late in the 900 series that it shared some stuff with the 1000-series or?
Joseph Lee
I think it's pretty well known that the 1050 is just a refresh of the 950
Carter Wright
im installing wow on my SSD and there's nothing you can do to stop me
Elijah Allen
>270$ for a 1060 >100$ for a 650W psu >your brain Found 3
Kevin Hughes
Taichi is probably the 'best board' but you don't seem to be looking for that if you're considering b450s.
Jeremiah Lee
what happens if i dont run into any problems building my rig?
Oh, there it is! A bit pricey though, don't you think?
Landon Cruz
You pay for the best.
If you can't afford the best you buy AMD.
Eli Evans
>201x >intel >the best have you been living under a fucking rock the past few years? Intel is shitting the floor month after month, who in their rightful mind is buying intel x86 new in this day and age?
Gotta pay the premium if you want a computer which can simultaneously work as an oven.
John Evans
Anyone who wants highest single core performance and professional app support.
AMD STILL has well known latency issues in several professional software suites. Especially for audio production.
If you're running a rendering farm, sure AMD makes the most sense right now, but there are plenty of situations where intel still makes plenty of sense, especially if you've got deep enough pockets.
>where intel still makes plenty of sense Only if you overlook their price/performance ratio
Dylan Myers
is their anything wrong with getting a micro-atx board for my ryzen 7 2700x, i was looking at the msi mortar one. Its got the right of amount of gpu slots and features.
Carson Murphy
>inturd crying and screaming Checks out
Henry Powell
Price/performance isn't the be all and end all of a computer, so that's perfectly okay.
1. Is replacing a CPU in your build fairly simple?
2. How much in upgrades would I roughly need in order to be able to play a game at 150-200fps whilst watching a stream/movie on a second computer?
My specs are:
CPU - Intel Core i5-7600K GPU - ASUS DUAL RX 480 OC Motherboard - ASUS PRIME H270-Pro RAM - HyperX FURY DDR4 8GB (Just one stick)
This was the best PC I could afford at the time and it was also the first PC I have built.
If you need any more information, let me know.
Jordan Parker
I would swap the power supply for a Seasonic FOCUS SSR-750FX since it's currently on sale at newegg. It may be a bit overkill but its $20 less than what you want to buy and Seasonic is a better brand than BitFenix IMO.
Brayden Stewart
what game, what resolution also anything over 60fps is a waste if your monitor isnt over 60hz
>how much would i need to play a game at 200 fps and watch a movie at 60 fps
thats like 260 fps, pretty sure your eyes cant track all that
Eli Long
Is the r9 fury x still a good card? I have the opportunity to buy one for $120, but the 4GB of vram is a little bit of a turnoff. Is there anything better that I can get used for around $200? I want to upgrade from a hd7950 btw.
Tyler Gomez
1920x1080 and I have a 144hz monitor. Most popular games that are 'esports'
Eh, 144+ fps for games and then show/movie/stream when I chill and fuck around in games.
Wyatt Johnson
>b-but muh single thread perf
Colton King
you can get a new rx 580 for 230-240
Samuel Price
To be fair, the 9700k there is at stock. Could probably get another 20-50 points out of it with an OC.
It's already ~10-15% faster than Ryzen at stock.
Tyler Murphy
you should already be able to get 150fps on esports with your build
Bentley Diaz
Unironically this. It's hard to beat the value, though.
Gavin Parker
It isn't, but for most people spending hundreds or thousands of dollars in premiums for the very best which results in ~10% more performance in games or productive tasks doesn't make any sense, and that's precisely why Intel is steadily losing its dominant market position.
Cooper Wright
I get 150-250 even sometimes up to 300. Problem is, if I had a 2nd monitor and played movies/stream my fps drops heavy in games and becomes stuttery all of a sudden. This happens already if I have twitch opened up in my browser whilst I game so I can't imagine what it would be like with a 2nd monitor.
Alexander Perry
maybe check how much ram your using, you could be going over 8gb
Ryan Lewis
>Intel is steadily losing its dominant market position You're not exactly providing much evidence here, not to mention, broader market trends will take longer to manifest.
Nicholas Williams
This is where I become monkey, how would I check that?
Carter Torres
>1. Yes, very. get decent thermal paste and watch a youtube video. >2 Depends on the game obviously. I imagine most afk games are not that gpu intensive. 16 gb+ of 3200 ddr4 is a must for ultra on higher end games, if you want to multi task you'll want more cores.
I'll just assume the game you're playing is something like pubg and watching a movie while you building camp... Then I would get something like a ryzen 7 1700 and a 1060
Jaxon Wood
Ryzen 1600 owner here
DO NOT BUY AMD CPUs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Levi Roberts
but the price/performance ratio!
Justin Moore
just use windows build in task manager and leave it visible go to performance tab and you will see your ram usage
Brayden Stewart
ryzen 1600 owners here, it's been a good cpu and worth the money, if you want a good mid range cpu buy it
Jack Smith
I'll take that piece of shit off your hands for $20
Jackson Ortiz
This shift has already started to happen in some parts of the world and it will only continue as the new successful generations of AMD processors come out at unbeatable prices while Intel continues to struggle with production and, more fundamentally, design.
I asked in the other thread but I have a 1600 that I don't care for. I want to play games at 144Hz but Ryzen cannot handle that. I know my GPU isn't the best for 144Hz either, but my CPU shits the bed just playing e-sports shit like CSGO. How realistic of a plan is it to just swap CPU/Mobo? I'd probably be going for a 9700K/9900K.
Absolutely, but we are seeing the pendulum slowly swing the other way and that is what matters. Given that AMD will use AM4 sockets until 2020, there is no reason not to buy AMD now if you are looking to build a PC because it is affordable and you will have great opportunities to make significant upgrades if you desire.
Leo Hernandez
It was my first PC and never visited Jow Forums and barely watched any videos on this shit. I was bound to make a mistake somewhere desu.
Jason Baker
>there is no reason not to buy AMD now if you are looking to build a PC because it is affordable
Unless you happen to have workloads that you know will suffer under Ryzen, such as anything specifically single core oriented, or things you know AMD has issues with (as said earlier, audio production is just one of several areas where AMD still falls behind intel)
Jaxson Gonzalez
your gpu is more than enough for esports at 144hz, and my i5 6400 can do 144hz csgo lol.Just get an i5 8400 if thats all you're doing
Austin Flores
They'll use the same socket but who the hell is going to be dumb enough to slap a Zen 3 chip into an old and busted B350?
Jayden Allen
it had threading in the name and I have dyslexia.
btw what mobo are you using? I'm thinking about upgrading not sure if my old asus prime is good enough though
Brody Murphy
Not him, but soldered IHS and real cores vs hyper threading, the 9700k is certainly an attractive CPU, it's just expensive and difficult to find in-stock until recently.
Luis Nguyen
go for the rx 590. 15-20% gain is pretty worth for an additional 30-40 bucks
Mobo has been backordered since Cyber Monday and there's no telling when it'll actually be in stock and delivered. Should I cancel the order and order another one off Amazon/Newegg? The mobo is the MSI B450M Mortar AM4 Micro-ATX Motherboard for $85. I'm willing to spend a bit more money(~$20) to get it here and finish my build. Any suggestions for a replacement?
Here's the rest of my build. >be quiet! Base 600 >Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 7200 RPM >G.SKILL TridentZ 16GB DDR4 3200 >Crucial MX500 500GB SSD >GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 2070 >Ryzen 2700x >EVGA SuperNOVA 850
Logan Perez
if only his cpu had X at then end then he could overclock
Kevin Phillips
ryzen already failed him once no need to get another one
Hudson Long
>pairing a 1060 with a 9700k/9900K I'm also planning on buying a 2080 but that's irrelevant to what I was asking.
Joshua Hernandez
FUCK YOU
Justin Bell
Sorry, I should have specified I am talking about the average person. There are always specific scenarios where other options are better.
The caveat is that you want a better motherboard with good VRMs if you want to upgrade in the future, but that is not a big investment all things considered. The processors themselves are relatively cheap and AM4 motherboards tend to be on the cheaper side, too. Investing a bit into fast RAM and a good x470 motherboard goes a long way because it will be easy to upgrade the CPU in a couple of years if that is your thing. It will certainly end up a lot cheaper than upgrading any other way.
Kayden Gonzalez
My 1600 is OC to 3.8ghz. It really doesn't make a huge difference.
Christopher Gonzalez
thats freesync, my dood
Ayden Powell
>but that's irrelevant to what I was asking It's actually not irrelevant at all. Keep Larping though
Nicholas Rivera
>How realistic of a plan is it to just swap CPU/Mobo? Two days ago I swapped an FX-8350 (and mobo obviously) with a 9700K and an Asus Prime X390-A. Windows booted up fine aside from the Ethernet drivers not being installed, so I plugged in a wireless NIC temporarily, ran Windows Update, and it detected and installed them automatically.
Michael Reed
My potato of a PC with an i7 3770 and a 750 TI can easily handle over 144Hz in CSGO. There is no way a Ryzen processor and a 1060 can't handle it when they are far more capable than what I have. What kind of RAM do you have? Are you using a shit motherboard? There has to be more than what you're saying.
Jason Brooks
I hate the fact I have to by expensive mobo just to use fucking intel.
I'm was thinking about just getting a fucking ryzen out of spite. But then I remembered i'd only be hurting myself and possibly my entire family if my house catches on fire.
Lincoln Perez
>It's actually not irrelevant at all I'm asking about swaping my mobo and CPU. What does my GPU swap effect in that?
It can hit 144FPS but it's very inconsistent. It will go from 240FPS to 110FPS. It's very fucked up considering I know people with much older hardware that run steady 300FPS
That's reassuring.
Hunter Thomas
When is DDR5 going to roll out?
Samuel Stewart
>I'm was thinking about just getting a fucking ryzen out of spite. But then I remembered i'd only be hurting myself and possibly my entire family if my house catches on fire. Is it opposite day today?
