/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Previous thread: Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Libreboot-compatible models:
>T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500.

Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series
>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0
>T440s - best price/performance ultra portable
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)

Upgraded models:
>X210 - X200/X201, i5 8250u quadcore
>X62 - X61, i5 5250u
>T70 - T60, i7 7700 hq
IPS displays, USB 3.0, m.2 x4, mini dp, no
forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117


Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support


>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org

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Other urls found in this thread:

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newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834331314&Description=x230&cm_re=x230-_-34-331-314-_-Product
microcenter.com/product/511978/thinkpad-t420-14-laptop-computer-refurbished---black
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Any good battery tip for X200, please?

Was there another time ever that you can buy such a good machine for just over 100 usd? The price of a used x230 in good shape blows my mind.

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I use a Lenoge replacement battery in one Thinkpad because I haven't found orig Lenovo ones, it works, not as good as Lenovo ones but it gets the job done just fine and is way Cheaper then a original Lenovo

its the golden age of the frugalfag
posted from my $75 t430

my down arrow key on my x200 snapped off last night, the tiny little plastic pieces that catches on the base broke off
i used that key all the time, doshio?

seriously it is. And another thing that blows my mind is how future proof the t430/x230/etc are. No one can predict paradigm shifts/web 4.0 but if things progress smoothly with an emphasis on backwards compatibility I see no reason to upgrade from this generation of thinkpads for a while.

>but if things progress smoothly with an emphasis on backwards compatibility

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>Backwards compatibility

Microsoft are releasing a version of Win 10 that doesn't even support 32-bit. Clock's ticking tbqhwu

Does the X230 get hot?

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Why are people suddenly showering the X230 with praise when I just picked up an X220? God I'm RAGING at this paradigm shift.

rather general use (web, email, music, porn) still needs to target the celeron n4000 and all the other garbage chips they still put in walmart-special-tier craptops today, so we don't need to worry until a few years after the lowest common denominator reaches parity with our poorpads

x220 is fucking fine don't worry about it

what thinkpad if i want to be part of ddr4 era?

hell yea

any problems with w540 besides trackpad?

will look around, thanks

on top of my head:
P52
X/T250 (and higher)
X1 Extreme
X1 Carbon 6th
A285/A485

*X2/T4/T550

I don't have a fingerprint reader on my tp, but it's here in the bios...It is possible so to find an external one ?

Just bought an x61t. What's a good battery for it that's not 200 fucking dollars?

I'm very tempted by the X220, but I have a few questions
>Is this a solid general purpose machine?
>Are IPS screens available for it?
>How much RAM can I cram into it?
May you be blessed with dubs

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Sorry I didn't want to make this post for you, bad habit it is to click on some numebers to open the box...

I'd give a helpful reply if your pic wasn't cancer.

I hear that the x220 has issues with anything over 8GB but you don't have to worry about them if you don't plan on using an eGPU. I think you can cram about 16GB into that thing. Yes IPS screens are available.

yes
yes but you're probably gonna have to buy the panel extra
16gb
fixed with the modded bios

fellas, I just bought a W540.
i7 4800MQ, Quadro K1100M, 8GBs 1600MHz DDR3, 256GB SSD. Did I do good for $350 USD?
Been using it for a while and it is genuinely all around the best laptop I've ever used.

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Thanks for your info anons. How would you say it shapes up against the X230? Is the latter more futureproof?

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Very good price.

Does anyone have an X220 variant of this wallpaper? Been wanting one for ages.

Just looked up X220 wallpaper, I did the same for the W540

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Oh, I didn't do that.

lol thanks

In Ubuntu, downclocking the i3-7020U to 45%, reducing the brightness right down, turning sound off, installing TLP and using the Opera Web browser with the battery saver mode on I can squeeze 4+ hours out of a puny 30wh battery. 5-7w discharge rate but still have smooth web browsing.
Don't know if I can get it any lower then that though.

>7020U
nice ideadpad there, buddy

>chink botnet browser

Which of these is the best for babby's first thinkpad? I'm thinking either an t420/30 or x220/30

ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-i5-3320M-2-6GHz-8GB-256GB-SSD-Webcam-BT-Windows-10-Laptop/372521576734?hash=item56bc04291e:g:kRUAAOSw1jRbmXAO:rk:3:pf:0

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834331314&Description=x230&cm_re=x230-_-34-331-314-_-Product

microcenter.com/product/511978/thinkpad-t420-14-laptop-computer-refurbished---black

I've used hand me down laptops my whole life and built my own desktops so I don't really know what to look for in buying refurbished. I figure the big sellers that sell hundreds of these things are safe, but maybe I'm retarded

T430s is kinda fine. I'd look for one with the higher resolution screen or plan on swapping one in. 14" is a good size unless you're like me and fall in love with the tiny ones. The other two are overpriced for ebay but about what you'd expect for a refurb from a retailer. Look at the elitebooks and latitudes too. They've got 14" models that you might find cheaper, but the clit mice aren't as good.

Oh wait, I just noticed the 430 is a 430s. Those ones have soldered CPUs don't they?

Adding on to my comment, get one with an ivy bridge CPU (3xxx) so you have a USB 3.0 port. The x220/t420 models had one but only if you get the i7 version which still commands a higher price than the i5. Unfortunately you'll be stuck with the chicklet keyboard, but you can either mod the older one back in or deal with it.

Yes but it shouldn't be a huge dealbreaker. Just look for the one with the cpu you want.

no, mine idles in the 40s

(and maxes around 85C)

thinkpad w520 finally arrived. This keyboard is fucking orgasmic

It actually unironically is though. For £100 I paid for it and then £50 to repair and upgrade it to 12gb DDR4 Ram, 500gb SSD and 1tb HDD, and is 1080p.
Keyboard is decent, trackpad is large and has good action. USB 3.0 ports, a 3.1 type C, light and thin and sleek and incredibly cool to the touch. It's got BT.
I got some old Dell business laptops with 2nd gen i5s in, and an old Acer 5755g with a 2670QM and GT 630M.
Unfortunately the Acer, despite having a great CPU hasn't held up very well in every other area. It really struggles with Windows and Linux when I reinstalled fresh OS' on it to test. Can't believe I paid £700 for it back in 2012. It only ever really worked with Windows 7. It was literally the only half decent laptop I could get back then. The battery was shot on it too and I had to get a 3rd party battery. Which gave me like 1 and a half hours of battery life instead of 1 from the roach'd stock battery. (At best it only ever got 3 hours max though) It has a habit of overheating despite having fresh thermal compound. I really did try to fix it.
The old Dell Inspiron laptops we literally found in the trash work better and still have 2 hour battery life.
Can't play videos for shit though and the RAM in them is pretty slow.
A weak modern processor usually has decent hardware-based playback and general efficiency gains.
Still I might get a Thinkpad at some point too though. My friend had an old entry-level one with a GMA 950. It was kind of crappy but we used it on the go for years. It survived everything. At one point my friend had to hold it all together with a metal clamp since the plastic was literally disintegrating and of course it could never be folded up but he still used it for another two years before he retired the old thing, so I understand the appeal of them.
This lappy is just something I threw together quickly to take around. If it breaks I won't get to upset over it. A thinkpad dying is a tragedy. An Ideapad? Eh.

something aliexpress something

Remap back and forward to up and down

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Good story.
I only assumed based on the CPU, but now I'm wondering what specific model is that?

best distro for a t60?

Anyone got the picture showing different W5xx screens?

dumb frognigger

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i like mx linux on mine

Ideapad 330-15IKB. 81DE model.

hello i need an aesthetic laptop (so not a thinkpad) it should cost up to 500€, i need it for universtiy and home. preferably able to use it as tablet as well

Elitebook.

>ThinkPad
>Not aesthetic

will never understand tastelets

here's a (you)pad

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You could get the 8th gen version of this. Before I got my £100 one I almost got the i5 8th gen one from ebay for like £260 (with 15% discount ontop). 8th gen laptop cpus are pretty beastly. Like a 30% gain on the 7th gen ones.
I got greedy and offered £240 and the seller rejected it and it sold for £260 instead.

>X230
future x230 owner here (it's in the mail) , it's not fine. suck it

don't be shitty or karma gonna enable your x230's computrace

enjoy your chicpad and redundant purchase

just bought a used W541 on ebay for $425 and picked up a hard drive caddy, wd black HDD, and an Intel m.2 WLAN card. total is $520. How'd I do?

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Is this the caddy that the ultrabase series 3 takes? es.aliexpress.com/store/product/TISHRIC-New-Plastic-Optibay-2nd-Second-hdd-Caddy-9-5mm-SATA-3-0-For-2-5/1497660_1000004848846.html?spm=a219c.search0104.3.8.74766bc0eGRXb5&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_319_10059_10884_317_10887_10696_100031_321_322_10084_453_10083_454_10103_10618_10307_537_536,searchweb201603_51,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=61739960-c4ce-4bd9-87ec-7673355223fc-1&algo_pvid=61739960-c4ce-4bd9-87ec-7673355223fc

>HDD

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>el larma
PENDAJO

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>redundant
>he doesn't know it will improve my life dramatically

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jajaja

Get out of my countries internet and off the software we built.

When you don't have anything yours to feel proud about you resort to things other people made

I myself am a huge fan of the 480S as it is one of the only ultralight with a reasonable IO

People figured out it was easy af to swap the x230 keyboard with an x220 keyboard. You end up getting the best of both worlds. Good keyboard and better processor.

X220 or x220t /tpg/?
Gonna use for light weight task only.

already has an ssd in it. why buy another?

It wasn't easy, it took a massive reverse engineering effort with multiple people.

jajajajaja, rekt

back to work pablo

So I got this thinkpad x1 with windows 10 on it, sometime i got keys that doesn't work (like the zero key or the 'p' in that area), however, when i do a complete shutdown and restart the keyboard works 100%. What gives?

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come tu madre, pendajo

can't even replace the keyboard, rip

I mean, you could just plug one in previously, but a bunch of keys wouldn't work, and it would short out part of the connector IIRC.

Looks pretty worn, might just be switch wear.

you can but quite expensive and it's the entire top panel.

But why would shutdown and restart fix this problem?

You know what I mean nigga. It's easy enough to do now. Just a few commands in the terminal

This whole damn general hated the 30 series up until it became effortless to flash and mod the bios.

Has anyone here replaced the trackpad sticker on a modern xx40 series and up?

I am going to buy the T440P ThinkPad.

Those plastic pieces are pretty standard.
Just get a new one.

Honestly it isn't even the keyboard. I have an X230 and swapped the keyboard to the X220 one and honestly in hindsight the X230 keyboard feels pretty great, in fact the tactile typing itself is probably firmer than the X220's. Just the layout is a bit suboptimal.

No, the reason the X230 gets more favored these days is that it's currently the cheapest bang-for-your-buck model. It's the X220 with slightly better hardware. You're also starting to see a lot of love in these threads for things like the T440p for the same reason even though the 4th gen Core thinkpads were universally hated.

Anyone using a 3rd party usb-c charger with a t470 ? Afaik not all are supported. Or should I play safe and get a lenovo one ?

Linux Mint doesn't have this problem ;^)

That's nothing new. Arch hasn't supported 32-bit for a while.

T450s has DDR3 doe

I run Mint with Cinnamon, but it has to be 32-bit due to the processor

What are you on about, Thinkpads are aesthetic ass fugg

I discovered t420s with intel HD 3000 supports only one additional desktop and my setup is pic rel, I plan to buy t420s with i7 and Nvidia NVS 4200M. I've heard there are some problems with this graphics card durability - is that true?

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I can upgrade my X230 to a i7-3612QE for about 320 euro (buying an x230 motherboard with said CPU) is that worth it?
I can probably ask the chinks to solder a pcb for 1080p/1440p displays as well so I don't have to fuckup my new motherboard myself.

Overheating is my guess. I had the same issue with my GPD Win when it engaged its turbo. Got hot and the keypad stopped being responsive.
I fixed it by disabling the turbo by setting the max CPU clock to 99% in the battery settings.

yo blud i found a thinkpad 2374 how much they sell for?

If you want something to use as a tablet as well grab a chink tablet with a 7Y30 in it. 8gb ram if possible and a 128gb M.2 SSD. Then get its keyboard dock.
The trackpad will likely be pretty bad though, but its somewhat fixable with some software tweaking. It shouldn't cost too much, and it will be small and perform as well as an older entry level surface but much cheaper.
An N4200 celeron is about as low as anyone should ever go for a Windows PC now. I have a Celeron N3450 in a tablet and it struggles (mostly because its resolution is 3000x2000 by default. But I usually half it when not watching videos and its OK).

No, paying that much pretty much defeats the foundation this general stands on. An excellent laptop at an affordable price. Your essentially overpaying just to keep an old chassis at that point.

I mean it's your money do what you want, but that money is probably better spent somewhere else.

Money is the issue yeah, I bought this X230 for 125 euro (then added an SSD and 4GB more RAM) but in my opinion this is the best small notebook out there and I want to keep it as long as possible. I'm also planning on getting an 1080p panel for it.
Right now the i5-3320M is sufficient but I'm a little worried about the future.

I get what you mean, I feel pretty similar about my x230 and w520.

My recommendation is to wait and see if the chinks at 51nb ever release a board with an 8th Gen cpu or better. They'd blow any ivy bridge out of the water.

1080p/1440p might be worth looking into.

my bad