Ddaaaammmmnnnn unix looks like that!?

Looks bloated as fuck. UNIX looks like a command prompt, everything else is detrimental.

Imagine being this pathetic (not you faggot, the iShit poster).

>t. poster from 1978

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GUI is anti UNIX way. You may not like it but that's how it is.

You missed his point completely.

The certifying body don’t seem to agree anymore. Here’s Mojave’s certification.

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>t. too stupid for unix

bsd is not unix

very based

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His post missed OP's point entirely, and you missed his point entirely, and I most likely missed your point entirely, and if you ever reply to this post, the chances are high you also miss the point I'm making

Did you click the wrong post, buddy?

>Berkeley unix isn’t unix

Hahahahha oh wow

>Daaaaamn - Microsoft Windows looks like THAT?!

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>berkeley unix
ha

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>t. the open group

>BSD was initially called Berkeley Unix because it shared the same source code with AT&T Research Unix. In the 1980s, BSD was widely adopted by workstation vendors in the form of proprietary Unix variants such as DEC Ultrix and Sun Microsystems SunOS, due to its permissive licensing, and its familiarity to many technology company founders and engineers.

MacOS is.

See

Reminder that OP is a buttblasted pajeet who is butthurt that Jow Forums doesn't like Apple products and keeps spamming the same thread every day

>daaaamn, an OS that has a UNIX compatibility layer but doesn't rely on it in any way, doesn't even bother to use up to date packages and never contributed to the development of UNIX looks like that!?

>apple
>Indian

Pick one

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>compatibility layer

Try harder. MacOS is a fully posix compliant unix system, and as such is native genetic unix.

opengroup.org/openbrand/register/apple.htm

Windows brainlets are morons

You don't have to use Apple to still for Apple, Ranjesh.

OS X doesn't use it in any way other than being compatible on paper. Nice try.

But Indians all use android and windows, that’s what they shill for. Because they’re poor poo in loos.

Open a shell and it’s pure unix, you would know that if you weren’t a windows using brainlet who has never used a compiler.

They use what's cheap and shill for those who pay. Common sense.

OS X is UNIX.

"UNIX" is really just a trademarked name, applied by The Open Group, upon completion of a certification. Many different - not at all compatible - OSes are certified as a UNIX. OS X among them. Here is the current certification page for OS X 10.9 "Mavericks" as "UNIX 03" certified: opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3602.htm

Apple has submitted OS X for certification (and received it,) every version since 10.5. However, versions prior to 10.5 (as with many 'UNIX-like' OSes such as many distributions of Linux,) could probably have passed certification had they applied for it.

So it really depends on if you define "UNIX" as "the trademarked name by The Open Group, as applied to operating systems that have certification from The Open Group as a UNIX system" or if you define "unix" as "an operating system that functions like the original AT&T Unix operating system, and meets the standards set forward in any version of the Single Unix Specification, even if it was never submitted to The Open Group for testing and certification," then every OS X back to the original one would likely qualify. (As would most Linux distributions, even though none have undergone The Open Group certification.)

Shell is at the odds with everything OS X stands for, it's a second class citizen there, just like in Windows.

Doesn't contradict my point.

It literally underpins everything and everything is run, in one way or another, through the shell. Do you even know how a *nix works?

>claims certified unix isn’t unix
>offers no evidence

What point?

Nice strawman.

>It literally underpins everything and everything is run, in one way or another, through the shell
Not really, not even on Linux. OS X software depends on their proprietary APIs like Cocoa. UNIX layer is just kinda there, nothing depends on it.

Not as nice as your deflection, you pointless brainlet.

The entire system it unix

no, it's just a fucking wallpaper

but MacOS kernel is XNU, which mean XNU's Not Unix

And absolute not as nice as your not argument. Unlike you I'm not paid to reiterating, so I won't.
Simply because it ships with that compatibility layer, not because it's built UNIX way.

The fact it’s certified unix means it’s unix. At the literal level, Mac OS X gained UNIX 03 certification with the release of Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), and is as Unix as it is possible to be.
On a more subjective level, Mac OS X is merely a replacement for the classic Apple operating system, Mac OS. The interesting aspect of Mac OS X is that it is a POSIX compliant OS that happens to use an XNU kernel, which can trace its roots to BSD. And that it was released as an open-source project, Darwin. The POSIX compliance lets software packages written for Linux or BSD be ported to Mac OS X.

But please, reply to this with no real explanation of how it’s not except your hurt winpajeet feelings kek

Doesn't contradict what I said. If anything the wording used even reinforces it.

MacOS is certified unix. You are a brainlet who can’t read.

>still replying to a strawman
Or is it simply a lack of reading comprehension?

MacOS is certified unix

>when you payroll through a uni and still claim you're a major

>even though none have undergone The Open Group certification.
Untrue. There are two separate chinese RHEL forks (one of them is owned by huawei) that have been certified UNIX.

Ok. So 99% of them haven’t.

99% BSDs arent either
or even actual UNIX like solaris/illumos or HP-UX
really makes you think

So? macOS is certified by the open group. Deal with it.

That's not even impressive

gnu/linux isnt unix and neither is bsd - darwin
this is unix

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No, that was unix in 1986

MacOS is unix now.

opengroup.org/openbrand/register/apple.htm

See. Fully certified posix compliant unix.

It literally isn't UNIX. It is UNIX-based, but it is not UNIX itself. My point was "watch your words".

bsd, after the rewrite, was not unix based. it is now a unix-like.
solaris is UNIX-based.

To be able to literally call your braindead OS "UNIX", it has to pass The Open Group's certification test. As long as it does a bunch of really stupid stuff and mostly looks like some kind of UNIX-like, it's eligible to be certified as a UNIX system and thus use "UNIX" in its name and promotional material. Because that's how trademarks work.
Some chingchong company got a GNU/Linux shitfuck certified as "UNIX", and there's definitely no AT&T code there.

The code lineage is another thing. The UNIX code started at Bell Labs under AT&T, so-called Research UNIX. Around Sixth Edition, AT&T forked off PWB/UNIX and later System III, incorporating parts from Research UNIX as they went and sold that as UNIX; Reseach UNIX continued to exist for a while until they got bored and made Plan 9 instead (now they all just play around on Linux and use macOS laptops like everybody else). Since AT&T is the parent of Bell Labs and the code from Research UNIX continued to be developed in System III/System V, that's where the lineage is. System V derivatives still trace back to Research UNIX.
Meanwhile, Berkeley UNIX/BSD saw demand in their system and were like "yeah you need a license from AT&T" which was hella expensive at the time -- nowadays Micro Focus won't even talk to you if you want a System V license --, some programmers were like "fuck that" and rewrote most of the system. Because of the USL v. BSDi/UCB lawsuit, they had to clean up some more stuff and affix AT&T copyright notices to some other files. They did that and nowadays at least OpenBSD has no AT&T code anymore.
(Incidentally, Caldera's open source license for Ancient UNIX is null and void, see virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2018/11/26/why-bsd-os-is-the-best-candidate-for-being-the-only-tested-legally-open-unix/ but The UNIX Heritage Society [TUHS] keeps ignoring the issue because they don't like their toys being illegal after all.)

The problem is just whether a "UNIX" is based on trademark or lineage to you.

It has Unix 03 certification from the open group. It is literally modern unix.

We should just sticky this thread at this point.

Based and Macpilled

damn...
im a thinkpad virgin and it looks so sexy...
i think i need to come out of the closet as an apple fanboi

This desu