Why was VR such a flop?

Consoles sell because of convenience, lower upfront cost and exclusive games.
VR is cumbersome, expensive and has barely any games that would make the expense worthwhile.

> Switch which also has very few notable games
It's quite a lot more than the notable VR games, the cost is cheaper, and people expect Nintendo and some partners will make a few more titles in *series* of games they already love.

The mere anticipation of DOTA 3, a second Nekopara series, Hat in Time 2, Fortnite 2, [...] with only one or two of these being out and the rest simply still in production already would also sell PC if it followed the console model.

ask uncle Jow Forums, he always has an answer, even when it's wrong

Too much hassle, too much money.
Also I would feel like a jackass alone at home using VR. It would be like buying a sex doll. It would make the post-ejaculation shame even greater.

because some glasses wont fit in the googles

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Porn always sells technology

Too much gpu power in time when gpus are overpriced and nothing interesting to use it on.

Thank doge I lasered my eyes.

I do have dry eyes now. Thanks technology.

Looks more like a canned animation playing in response to an anime video on an IRL television in AR but OK

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Because you can't play normal games in VR

You can't even move around normally, every VR game is some spastic shit gimmick

aren't you able to adjust the lenses in the goggles? it would be a massive oversight not to include it, pun unintended

I had LASIK eight years ago. I've needed glasses again since 2015. Poor genes? Plain bad luck? Who knows. Either way I wouldn't feel safe using contacts again.

To answer your question OP, let's look at one side of the tech's boosters:
>finally I can have the perfect anime waifu of my dreams so my meat body can wither and die happy
And the other:
>we want to empower perfectly-spherical consumers to engage with brands in a vacuum
No thanks.

And Rez Infinite

I think the same. But then again, even if its a dude, who cares. The video is cute ^^

VR is a flop because it doesn't appeal to normies. Otherwise, it has been a complete success.

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How old were you when you used LASIK? Maybe your eyes weren't done growing yet.

But eyes also naturally get worse as you age, although it shouldn't be as bad as before you lasered it.

Because the individual components of it are being sold separately at non-affordable prices (visuals, foot tracking, arm/hand tracking, etc), when really the technology makes more sense combined together as though it is a gaming arcade unit, rather than as a personal consumer product in the home.

Also I think there was too much focus on trying to create a separate VR-only market, rather than just taking existing games and making them work really well in VR. Some of them were pretty close to being spot on anyway:
youtube.com/watch?v=U6b7nF4JVhI
youtube.com/watch?v=WDmwu5KQT7k
youtube.com/watch?v=Fz7qtmXKoG8

>normies
Go home, redditor.

>that guy who masturbated with face and movement tracking and posted it on Jow Forums

I was 23ish. Best explanation I've heard during my annual check-up since then is that your eyes change like any other body part, which is reasonable. I knew the risk at the time, and I'm glad I caught myself squinting at roadsigns while driving, I just thought I'd have a few more years of not needing specs. Qué Sera Sera etc

The walking controls in most VR gear is pretty shit.

You mean like the stuff that the nips are putting out? Nothing else puts a cute girl in your house.

I should add, I can imagine these components being combined together and further refined as a personal home product...but even then, I think the main appeal with games is that people sit down to play them, and don't have to exert lots of energy to do so.

Before I lasered my eyes I couldn't see the face of the person in front of me.
Now 3 years later I still have perfect vision. At least if I have both eyes open (my right eye is not perfect). Despite being on the PC all day every day. So I think you've been very unlucky.

FPBP.

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You mean like the ones where you have to teleport through the game to get to places, or just hold a button down to walk?

That's all I've seen so far in the VR games, it was really weird that they went backwards in functionality rather than forwards.

That yeah. That you either stand still or select a spot and teleport there. That seriously ruins the experience.

Just the way it goes, really. Risk of having someone cut open your eyeball and singeing the insides with a big laser at the end of the day. The one memory I'll take away from the experience is the smell, like burning hair, and the curious sensation of a scalpel in my eyeball.

Anyway VR is tech for the sake of tech, and I think it's stupid to be all starry-eyed about ~the possibilities~ when right now it's mostly crap

This is changing. A lot of games now offer the usual dual stick movement now. Downside is not everyone can handle it without getting sick.

>You mean like the ones where you have to teleport through the game to get to places, or just hold a button down to walk?
See that's the thing, you're enveloped within a world but there's no way to interact with or experience that world while sitting down. The entire experience of playing video games on VR tech is flawed on a fundamental level, as it's reduced to what's basically a 360 degree TV set and, well, I have a perfectly good TV set already

>Downside is not everyone can handle it without getting sick.
Genetic dead-ends who must be discarded

VR should be played while sitting with keyboard and mouse.

The new Ace Combat will have VR support

only for three missions

t. normie

2spooky

I am very nearsighted, but I tried VR once and I didn't need my glasses.

Thats AR, its part of the Idolmaster phone game.

>scalpel in my eyeball
Do you really not feel any pain from that? Also how much is LASIK nowadays? I fucking hate glasses

I'm not him, but I was really afraid of getting my eyes lasered. I can't even put lenzes in because I can't touch my eyes. But I did laser my eyes.
They put eye drops in your eyes which sedate your eyes. Simple eye drops. And you really won't feel a thing from it.

No, they use eye drops and put some kind of clamp over your eyelids to stop you from blinking. It's over in about ten minutes. As for pain, you 'feel' the scalpel but it doesn't hurt .. ever had a filling under anaesthetic? or made your fingers numb in cold water and tried pinching your skin?

As for cost, I think it was about give grand in 2010 money, with 500 downpayment. 0% finance deal, we joked about repossessing my eyes if I ran out on them haha

Protip: it wasn't a joke.

uh oh

>was
VR has been a thing for several decades.

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>ever had a filling under anaesthetic?
So that's how it is. Do they also stop you from moving your eyes at all so you don't ruin everything by looking left or right?

vr hasn't flopped, it's just getting started.
i tried out an htc vive and it changed my life.
my first thought was "wow"
my second thought was "why the fuck am i still using monitors?"
i looked it up and someone made a "virtual desktop."
nigger, if i get one of those i'm going to starve to death because i'm never leaving.
youtube.com/watch?v=OcMCe4LESKE

It was iverhype but it is still growing.

I just had to look at a dot. The machines automatically stop if you move your eyes too much.

They tell you to focus on a dot of light, which id imaging looking back was the laser source, and that it cuts off in microseconds if you twitch or look away. Then it's just BZZZZZ BZZZT BZZZ until they're satisfied

then they take you away to sit somewhere dark for a while, then they let you go. they tell you to wear sunglasses straight away.

Unironically this.

Thanks for the explanations, you've made my fears disappear better than any doctor/marketer could have. I'm already saving up money, by 2020 I should have enough for the surgery.
How was it being able the see without lenses or glasses for the first time in God knows how many years?

It didn't hit me for a while, as for a few days I had the usual side effects: hot, dry eyes (they gave me drops to use), and that feeling as though there was grit in my eyes (there isn't, just your body being all wtf just happened) - so I was mostly fumbling with a dropper and wearing big Roy Orbison style supermarket-brand dark glasses. Then I was in the shower one day and I noticed how clearly I could see everything, and how -smooth- my vision felt.

What are the longer term side effects like?

lol

None that I can think of right now. For me, they scheduled a handful of follow-up appointments in advance to check everything was settling down, no infection, etc. After that, nada.

At the first few appointments, I recall them mentioning night vision becoming different in some cases - seeing halos around light sources - but I don't recall this affecting me. There's also a few options for the type of surgery you get, again I don't much recall the circumstances by which they choose LASIK or LASEK, but I've got deep set eyes which seemed to weigh one choice over another.

If you're interested, see if you can find a place that does no obligation appointments, they're better placed to answer specifics, as it's been ages since my surgery.

Vr hasn't really been that much of a flop. The costs of the headsets have been coming down slowly. I bought an Oculus rift specifically for one game: Elite Dangerous. And it is nuts every time I put the headset on and fly into a station or planet. Once the technology gets even better and better vr titles come out we'll be seeing a surge of people buying and playing vr.

It haven't flopped, estimated 4-4.5million headsets have been sold so far (not counting shitty phone HMDs)
Pretty good for a clunky first-gen tech

Proven medical reasons

Just imagine how far we went from pic related to something like Samsung Note9
This is the state VR HMDs are at right now, there's so much room to grow. They will become lighter, faster, better, more comfortable, something you can wear for hours around the house. It will take some years, but the future is exciting

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Turns out people don't want to wear stupid goggles.

Maybe gaymen VR was a flop, but it revolutionized several fields such as forensic science and engineering.

I will tell you why. Because oculus rift was touted as being next level by John carmack himself and they promised it would be $300 which they created a Kickstarter for. Fast forward to release and it's now $600 and Facebook just bought them out for billions$. So now everyone has a bad taste in their mouth and see the whole thing as a scam to make this Palmer lucky retarded fat kid into a billionaire. They even charged an extra $200 for the controllers which didn't even come out for 6 months after the release. All those early adopters who believed in carmacks vision who spent $800 on it now see it for sale for only $299 and feel like they just got cucked. These faggots made off huge and now since they are rich as fuck they don't even care about VR anymore and won't be making any improvements. They've already got the $ from anyone who was interested in it and they are forever turned off on it now, every game is a ghost town. This is why they are now trying to target zoomers and the poor with stripped down rifts that you can use with just a cellphone, to get more suckers.

No it didn't.

Yes it did.

Prove it.

Would a forensic expert telling on youtube how useful it is be proof enough?

No. That does not constitute a revolutionization of an entire discipline.

I thought so. Thank you for being the predictable contrarian cunt you've always been.

There's always these faggots who say it didn't flop, but they are inevitably the ones who fell for the meme.

you need a high end gaming pc + $699 to play no gaems

you can see but you cannot touch

Oh yeah? Well how come everyone in my personal echo-chamber comfort zone ACTUALLY agrees with me? Checkmate, idiot.

I mean, if you want to keep making claims worthy of as-seen-on-TV infomercials, be my guest.

Fuck you, this isn't Internet Court. I'll say what I please, wherever and whenever I please, and you're going to sit there and you're going to read what I write.

I can't tell if you're being ironic but I will go ahead and say yeah, that's most VRfags.

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Both oculus and PSVR give me horrible motion sickness and horrible headaches.

space/setup area
price
multiple competing stores right from the outset
the total lack of a useful "try before you shell out $700+ on this hardware that requires enthusiast hardware to even run well"
The biggest issue I see is that VR is marketed as enthusiast hardware, requiring more enthusiast hardware, and completely fails to say why non-enthusiasts should even give it a second thought

There's always these faggots who say it did flop, but they are inevitably the ones who can't afford it

>you are just poor lol
every time.

>it flopped despite every single evidence showing that it didn't
every time too

>completely fails to say why non-enthusiasts should even give it a second thought
I had a big effortpost typed up, but then Chrome crashed.

The gist of it was, VR in its present state is built on the back of nerds' infatuation with sci-fi and what the future 'should' be. So, VR came from putting the cart before the horse, and now that they're strapping goggles to their face and holding their controllers, the thought strikes - why did we want this, again? What use is there for this thing, now that you're trying to overcome the seasickness effect with better DPI bit oh that affects power consumption, and that means a bigger power supply but where does that go it can't go on your frigging head, and so on.

It's a dumb idea born of nerds with more money than sense who had no checks on their assumption that of course people would flock to use this tech because why wouldn't they?

VR is what happens when people fail to realize that game consoles are just electronic boxes no one cares about and are only bought for the games that can be played on them. Kind of what this user said: You can make the world's coolest gaming device ever but if you don't make anything fun to play on it no one will ever care.

Is not. Is still in development.

>buying hardware that's still in development
What kind of retard

Every RTX owner. Real-time ray tracing is in the demo stage, so is the hardware allowing you to utilize it.

nytimes.com/2018/06/11/well/lasik-complications-vision.html

You should read that too. Personally I don't think any risk of permanent vision damage or permanent eye pain/dry eye is worth it when you can just pop some contacts in and you're good to go.

>Just buy it

I agree that Beat Saber is fantastic, I've put a lot of time into it. Though there really isnt much else. Robo Recall is super fun but also an obvious demo of oculus touch controllers. Most games out there are either bad ports, poorly done cash grabs by companies jumping on a vr bandwagon, or low quality indie titles.

this
and it has to become more affordable accessible and easier to use

not enough porn