What is computing minimalism?

>What is computing minimalism?
linfo.org/unix_philosophy.html
suckless.org/philosophy/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalism_(computing)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bloat

>Why software minimalism?
- Fewer bugs
- Better and faster performance
- Lower memory footprint
- Better maintainability
- Higher scalability
- Longer software lifetime
- Smaller attack surface

>List of minimal OSes and distros
>Obscure minimal
Plan 9, FreeDOS, Minix3, Genode
>Meme minimal
Alpine, Crux, Void, GuixSD, BSD, SourceMage, Any non-systemd Distro
>Autistic minimal
Arch, Gentoo, OpenBSD, LFS
>Most sane minimal
Debian (netinst)

>Minimal base Programs
>WM (window manager)
dwm
>Web browsers
Dillo, Surf, Links, w3m
>File Manager
Terminal
>Video/Music player
mpv or cmus
>Text editors
GNU nano or Vim
>Image viewer
FEH or sxiv
>Shells
mksh or dash
>Terminal
st

>Useful links
Suckless:suckless.org/rocks
Cat-v.org:harmful.cat-v.org/software/
Window Managers:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
Without Systemd:without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
Alternatives to Bloatware:github.com/mayfrost/guides/blob/master/ALTERNATIVES.md

>Website development
werc.cat-v.org/
learnbchs.org/
tools.suckless.org/quark/
danluu.com/web-bloat/
motherfuckingwebsite.com/

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I tried NetBSD over the weekend but it was too hard for me so I went back to OpenBSD.

if you're gonna use the openbsd logo you should add cwm to the wm list rite

cwm is ugly

never bothered me
just market it as minimally beautiful anyways

how

you can change everything

dwm is sexy
cwm is ugly

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How so?
Who's this semen demon?

EmilyApple1988

>Who's this semen demon?
my wife

Reminder that OpenBSD is lacking the following things:
>A robust filesystem such as ZFS, btrfs, or HAMMER2
>Any kind of journaling FS
>SSD TRIM
>NFSv4
>Support for more than one core on various parts of the OS. The firewall, pf, is confirmed to be one of these parts, although there may be more.
>802.11ac networking
>Nvidia graphics from this decade
>AMD Vega graphics
>Certain Intel graphics, at least judging from comparing the manpage to the wikipedia article
>Broadcom wireless
>Bluetooth
>WINE
>LUKS/dm-crypt
>Linux compatibility layer
>Mounting ext filesystems
>free(1)
>lsblk(8)
>Proper virtualization (vmd/vmm is awful compared to KVM+QEMU or even Virtualbox)
>and probably more

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Oh boy here we go again

And mg under text editors

Does he do porn or she is just a lattuce washer?

Fuck I meant *she*

Friendly reminder that OP is a huge faggot for not putting Slackware on the list.

Slackware installer literally lets you do a Linux From Scratch configuration.

I had trouble getting the wireless to work. When I tried reinstalling, it kept failing even though I installed it fine the day before. I might try it again on a spare computer, but OpenBSD was easier to install and configuring the wireless was easier, so I'm sticking with OpenBSD.

Alpine is fine, its used a lot in Docker containers and it's also very usable for low ram servers. Shit on desktop tho.

I installed it yesterday and had trouble too, but I managed to solve. What was your problem?

Why isn't Slackware on the list?
You can choose what packages you want to install and it is pretty minimal IMO.
It also doesn't use systemd, unlike Debian.

There was a firmware problem with my wireless card and I didn't have a wired connection to download the firmware. When I got a wired connection I decided to reinstall while connected to the wired connection and after installing it wouldn't boot. I tried a few more time then reinstalled OpenBSD. If I have a spare computer I'll try again, but I don't have a spare computer right now.

i'd rather use openbsd than slackware
slackware is so unpolished. Are you a slackware dev??

How is Debian minimal?
Its just outdated Ubuntu

No, just a user.
Slackware is really comfy.
It's like Crux, with less compiling, way better support/docs and stability.

No and No. Your entire post is completely irrelevant to what I just said.

My point is that Slackware is BY DEFAULT more minimal than all the Linux distros in the list (except LFS) and yet is not there.

OP, is obviously a misinformed faggot who probably just saw Slackware install size and thought "lol this must me bloated".

There are distros with small size that come with lots of bloated shit like systemd and distros like Slackware that are the polar opposite of that.

>My point is that Slackware is BY DEFAULT more minimal than all the Linux distros in the list

Alpine and void is the most minimal on the list. No systemd or gnu
LFS is very bloated, retard

>No systemd or gnu
>or gnu

So, just like Slackware allows you to do by default

>LFS is very bloated
No, you fucking imbecile, because it's up to you how much you put in your custom distro. That flexibility makes it the most minimal of all. You clearly never have done the LFS book.

>No, you fucking imbecile, because it's up to you how much you put in your custom distro

Damn, you are retarded for thinking lfs is minimal

is pulseaudio bloat

>>Autistic minimal
>Arch
Arch is not minimal at all

minimalists, please fuck off and stay away from OpenBSD. OpenBSD is not minimal. It comes with all the Xorg apps, and with emacs, and with ctags, and with a httpd.
OpenBSD isn't minimal, and I like it that way.

Would it be a bad idea to use ksh on debian?

> I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys
> Linus
What did he mean by this?

Void is a GNU/Linux distro tho, it simply provides an optional musl version.

That he is a retard who rants about things he knows jackshit about.

>Btw, and you may not like this, since you are so focused on security, one
>reason I refuse to bother with the whole security circus is that I think
>it glorifies - and thus encourages - the wrong behavior.

>It makes "heroes" out of security people, as if the people who don't just
>fix normal bugs aren't as important.

>In fact, all the boring normal bugs are _way_ more important, just because
>there's a lot more of them. I don't think some spectacular security hole
>should be glorified or cared about as being any more "special" than a
>random spectacular crash due to bad locking.

>Security people are often the black-and-white kind of people that I can't
>stand. I think the OpenBSD crowd is a bunch of masturbating monkeys, in
>that they make such a big deal about concentrating on security to the
>point where they pretty much admit that nothing else matters to them.

>To me, security is important. But it's no less important than everything
>*else* that is also important!

> Linus

Well, guess what this is exactly what people in the OpenBSD project do, all the time (fix normal bugs). That's the proactive approach to security: don't wait until you have an exploit, just fix the darn bug. "free, FUNCTIONAL, secure" it is very cleat that they care about more than just muh security for security's sake.

all potteringware is bloat

AM I MINIMUL YET

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OpenBSD is a pleasure to use.

>>What is computing minimalism?
A spectrum of autism/mental gymnastics to justify your pre 2005 poorfag garbo
>Why software minimalism?
Lack of essential features

its not emacs though

openbsd is ok

>- Better and faster performance
This doesn't describe OpenBSD.

>Plan9
>snarf and xerox for copy
>clunk to close a file handle
Who was responsible for being silly with names at Bell? Was it Rob Pike?

I want to learn 9P just to be able to say "clunk".

>Smaller attack surface
>FEH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

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>she

>9 virtual desktops
'minimal'