ABSOLUTELY BASED CHINA
These are my favorite bait threads. Not just because Taiwan is the real China, but because they attract a torrent of total fucking retards who fell for the quantum tunneling meme.
GAA is the future, boys. We future now.
>literally 20nm wide
>3nm
Thats one of the first GAA/nanowire transistors made in a lab a decade ago, genius. Its not TSMC's 3nm node.
>2023
I slep.
What's after 3nm anons?
That depends on whats economical at the time. There is still a ton of room to improve on area scaling in the back end, a lot could be done to save on power and improve performance with interconnects. Maybe vertical GAAs will push density drastically higher. Its also possible that full fledged die stacking will be a thing making the concept of area scaling with a monolithic die irrelevant.
For ultimate area scaling though we're nowhere near hitting a dead end. The field of quantum junctions is still a thing, using sub atomic particles to perform logic.
>posted in 2017
Believe it or not process nodes are planned years in advance, as are the facilities built to house those production lines. Shocking I know.
3nm+.
GaAs transistors are the future, just you wait until the millions that are dumped into research of that actually yields something comparable to Si
Changing substrate material isn't happening any time soon, and doesn't do anything to address the underlying issue with area scaling and increasing density. It'll take far more than a new substrate to push clocks dramatically higher as well.
I know, I was making fun at the fact that the University I went had partnerships/grants from Samsung, TI and other semiconductor companies. Every day we had a poster or presentation about how
>X will replace Si forever
And almost 3 years later still nothing
Not for intel, apparently
Intel blew their load at 22nm with their Trigate transistors and have been struggling every step ever since. Even at 22nm early on intel had a lot of process issues, it actually took them some time to start yielding low power SKUs that had a substantial performance advantage over the 32nm planar parts they were replacing.
Then 14nm was a train wreck. A big flaming train wreck that took years to put out. 10nm didn't just all of a sudden fuck up and become unworkable. Every iteration of intel's trigate transistors has had major issues. intel just got outcompeted by the rest of the industry. Their fab lead totally evaporated as soon as everyone else brought FinFETs to market.
Silicon is the cheapest
Just wait for 0nm.
Cost isn't really a simple factor, since all the infrastructure and logistic chain in place for foundries all over the world is built up around silicon. Even if an alternative material could theoretically be cheaper it'd still be hundreds of billions of dollars across the industry to replace silicon.
The thermal conductivity of silicon is also one of the only things preventing disastrous side effects of self heating. That can't be readily overlooked. Even if a chip produced on some 2.5D meme material could reach higher clocks, in practice it'd likely be handicapped as controlling temps would be much more difficult.
>Taiwan
>China
Nice try, Xi.
Taiwan is the real China.
PRC is the usurper state.
trips of truth.
That was kinda my point, researchers showed how other materials are 5, 8 10, whatever times faster than Si. It means jack shit. Every professor in the building had at least 3 students working on "The next big thing" And still nothing came out of it. Not even on small scale
Wrong
There's One China, The People's Republic of China, Taiwan is merely a renegade province that will soon be liberated and come into the hands of the rightful Chinese leadership
tiananmen square
>tiananmen square
tiananmen square
>tiananmen square
fuck off xian.
You've got to finish pacifying Tibet and dealing with your Muslim population before you can LARP about controlling Taiwan.
What WOULD it take to push clocks dramatically higher?
Nah bro let me show you how it's done.
WINNIE THE POOH
POOH BEAR
N N N N N
Architecture itself is half of the equation. How a design clocks and stays synced is part of the arch, the process can only facilitate it at a reasonable power level for the most part.
your dick lol
These posts glow in the dark
*ahem*
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>opposing inhuman PRC dystopia means you're the CIA
lmao
How so?
It's...beautiful
taiwan != china
You gotta put a pooh bear meme in there somewhere but other than that it's perfect, bordering on overkill
based and redpilled
Taiwan is the legitmate government of China.
The commies in Peking WILL PAY
Nope, ROC boomers get dabbed on.
Taiwan is not China, retard.
are they instantly making 3nm processors now?
what does this even mean?
my current 14nm cpu will see replacement in the next 5 years??
explain this shit.
Uhh isn't Sunny Cove 10mm next year?
What ever happened to Ice Lake?
>china
>has insane 20% extra tech taxes in burgerland
>taiwan
>normal prices
China a shit.
"chinese man bad"
its pure projection, as if the UK or american "surveillance capitalism" via facebook, amazon, google, microsoft, and the banking/credit/insurance system werent worse than shit that is just on the drawing board in some convenient boogycountry
It's not on the drawing board, it's being implemented. Also, the surveillance capitalism and banking/credit/insurance system in the Western World dwarf what's being implemented in China.
>Taiwan is the real China
take your bait and leave
>.t chinese intelligence
Who else but some western world sheltered liberal faggot would be on the internet defending The People's Republic?
Kill yourself, fag.
kek
>人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence
多黨制 Multi-party system 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 反共 法輪功 北京之春 激流中國
大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 侵略 掠奪 破壞 屠殺 民族淨化
内臟器官 蛇頭 遊進 走私 六合彩 賭博 色情 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 Tibet
達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 東突厥斯坦 East Turkistan
Asshole! The commie student again!
ahahahahahahah! thinks taiwan is china! ahahahahahahahahahahhahaha! oh you communists are retarded.
2nm
1nm
Sub nm
>2013
>AMD discusses the need to break die to maximize the value of new and existing nodes
>2018
>They actually delivered
Maybe it was put on ice
*singularity
It's really early days for deep learning tho barely 2 years old
The future
wtf i thought the absolute minimum were 6nm since something about the atoms size?
3nm is not even possible unless you run it at sub 1ghz because electrons stop behaving "nicely".
Good enough I popped a boner for a second. Hope these are perfected in my lifetime.
das it bb
the cyberpunk we deserve as a species
I came
Looks like clumsy maid would not buy/10.
>boston dynamic robot
Have we go too far
>Taiwan
China of healthy human.
FUCK! There's no way that's real... right??? I thought they still couldn't get the motors to fit inside of a human sized enclosure without over-heating. This has to be a human in a suit pretending... right? It's just the leg braces, right? Man, do I ever want it to be real though. Made me nut.
are you retarded?
There are russian faggots also, which will defend their communist gook masters unit they die.
南京從未遭到強姦
南京從未遭到強姦
南京從未遭到強姦
南京從未遭到強姦
based and redpilled
The Atlas robot.
They delivered
> The People’s Republic of China
Did you mean Mainland Taiwan?
2.8 2.5 2 1.8 1.5 1.2 1 then it'll be sub nano meter or the tech industry abandoning silicon.
>surveillance capitalism
Is this a buzzword your marxist gender studies professor invented? Lmao
Shouldn't progress be exponential?
um
op
taiwan
is
not
china?
lol.
God I wish we were in that timeline right now.
They've got 7nm EUV in production right now, 5nm with heavier EUV integration goes into risk production early next year.
They aren't making any unprecedented leaps here. Its all consistent iterative advancement.
What it means is that TSMC is keeping up with area scaling as the big tool maker ASML projected.
I doubt any 14nm parts will be compelling 5 years from now.