Server fags: is this true? $90,000 per MONTH to host Jow Forums? I know it's a big site.... but damn...

Server fags: is this true? $90,000 per MONTH to host Jow Forums? I know it's a big site.... but damn... how does Hiroyuki Nishimura afford this? Does being director of nico nico bukakae really pay that much? Does Jow Forums passes and ads even come close to giving him 90K per month?

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people on Jow Forums say bandwidth doesn't cost any money, at least when speaking of net neutrality

He doesn’t use AWS so their pricing is irrelevant. He clearly has a special deal with his own hosting. I’d suspect it’s about $30,000pm

Is that feasible? I thought AWS had the best prices in the business, also do you think Jow Forums is even letting him break even? I assume 90% of users here have ublock, and there don't seem to be that many Jow Forums pass users.

Azure can go as low as 1c per GB over 500TB of transfers a month. You have to contact them to get special pricing. Like I said.

>I assume 90% of users here have ublock
If i'm not wrong there was a huge influx of phone posters compared to desktop users during the election so im not so sure about that one

>Adaway for Android

>requires root

nope

>Adblock vpns for normies

>what is clover?
>what is firefox mobile?
>what is an ad blocking dns/ adaway?

didn't he get caught selling client information to advertiser's? or was that m00t

The CIA pays him

I think /b/ and /tg/ cause 70% of the traffic, those have most of the advertisements too

He could be making money in ways you guys aren't thinking about like all these users filling out capatcha is worth money, it could bring in a small revenue and help with spam.

Yeah except official pricing is for ordinaries, when you have something of this scale you make special deals, so it nowhere near 90000$

normalfaags can't figure those things out

/tg/? What?

if by /tg/ you mean Jow Forums, sure. where tf did you get /tg/ from?

Why are they listing CloudFront pricing? It's relevant since we have to take into account image hosting, but it's just a CDN. If we're making an estimate based on AWS, we'd still need to factor in S3, EC2 and RDS pricing (which is gonna be impossible unless someone knows how their architecture looks). This is just an estimate of traffic costs for fetching images from the site.

Jow Forums is AI testing ground. Hiroshima gets nice bux out of live users that feed info to the AI. Forget all that captcha bs, have you noticed all of these threads?
>Why aren't you using X
>X bad Y good
>What do you think about X?
And such. It's all AI based agents in testing mode disguised as regular users. Do you believe that people are that stupid to repeat the same kind of shit for months or years? Welcome to the future lads.

This is why you should
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No way this is true. hiro is just retarded. moot made it very clear many times that Jow Forums has never had money issues.

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Hiroshima Nagasaki lies all the time about server and hosting costs, it dates back to 2ch, to get extra money or force some shitty change that no one wants.

Gookmoot thought traffic was going to continue to rise after 2016 so he upscaled, now he's regretting it.

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fucking reddit spacing admin literally who

>no
>botnet
>unnecessary

I have scripts running all day that download everything from /gif/ and /wsg/ to /dev/null over and over again

Complete nonsense because most traffic is cached by CloudFlare which is MUCH cheaper than Amazon AWS.

devilish

Forgot about Jow Forums
Traditional games is a very popular board, it doesn't move quickly but each thread is usually packed

you're not serious right?

>can't tell if user is tinfoil hat wearing crazy or speaking the truth

I just don't know anymore...

Doing god's work user, keep it up.

I have real 1Gbps fiber at home so I don't even notice wget running 24/7 capped at 100Mbps with low QoS priority

thank you, I love to wait for 10s for a 10kb image to load. It's great.

Literally this.
Just goes to show just how stupid the average Jow Forums goer is that most of them don't realize this.

AWS fucking sucks. I could handle that traffic very easily.

so we singularity now?

It's much easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone they've been fooled.

>also, I've just been banned for off-topic kek

For an individual customer, it's fractions of a penny per gigabyte, obviously for the combined millions of users of a website, that's going to be a lot more than a singular customer.

I pay my ISP for data use, if you want to start charging me per GB, i'd happily switch assuming they use industry standard rates of a fraction of a penny per GB.

I only hit 2-3TB most months, that'd cut my bill in half at least.

And there's the thread stall once again kek

>every.single.time.

We proven sheeple, dear tripfag.

>I only hit 2-3TB most months, that'd cut my bill in half at least.

>tfw I pay $90/mo for 50/5 Mbps cable internet that has a 250GB data cap
This life is suffering...

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>botnet
>sjw botnet
>honeypot

I'm paying $95/month for unlimited data and 940/880mbps fiber.

$0.02 has been deposited into your Google play wallet.

Perks of living in a city I guess, I live in a rural town of 15k population and it's the largest town in a 30 mile radius.

I'm not in the city, but i'm in a suburb of a major metro area.

AWS is quite expensive, alot options that are cheaper.

Right, I'm 100 miles away from a major city / metro area.

where is eveyone going?

except the reason we have passes at all is to cover operating costs
there were plenty of times moot posted about money troubles

4+Jow Forums

There was a huge increase in traffic during the run up to the 2016 US Presidential Election. Traffic has just returned to normal since then.

Thanks to Captcha Buster passes are irrelevant.

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Unless you're a phone poster posting from a cellular network.

where did you get this?
>a more populat than tv
interesting

>/b/ lagging far behind /vg/
jesus what happened

Didnt realize Jow Forums was one of the more active boards, but it makes sense, we have a bunch of /v/ermin crossboarders invading every hour of the day

now post the least popular board

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...except of course for supporting the website you use.

It's fucking shit. And I know "it was always shit" but it's really truly shit now. Just visit and see.
>porn
>trap porn
>furry porn
>loli
>cuck porn
>shit that has a whole board dedicated to it
>drugs
I don't even need to look.
And that's all there is for the most part. Everyone went to boards that are specifically for the topics they're interested in. Because why filter 100 shitposts to find what you actually want?
/po/

It's a shadow of its former self honestly, there is nothing there except for porn now.

>What are these things that most people probably dont do or use?

this. once /soc/ was created /b/ got even worse. nobody cares about old meme culture anyways so its 95% awful porn threads

read your image again, user

it says that it would cost 90k/mo IF Jow Forums USED AWS. and it says in your image that they don't.

AWS is an absolute rip-off, they charge 3 cents per gigabyte. Meanwhile, OVH gives you unmetered connections on even their low-end servers

>If i'm not wrong there was a huge influx of phone posters...
Are there even mobile Jow Forums apps that do show ads?

the opposite direction from shitty malvertisements

Are you a retard? Why don't you have admin privileges of a device """you own"""?

>Meanwhile, OVH gives you unmetered connections on even their low-end servers
Unless you hit the line a bit too hard and they threaten to shut you down unless you switch to another plan.

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So 3Pb / 30 = 100Tb a day
100Tb / 24 = 4,160Gb an hour
/ 60 = 70Gb a minute
/ 60 = 1.1gb/s connection speed
Say half-chan uses around 200gB of storage max,
So you get one machine with 256GB of ram for a ram disk and a 2gbps dedicated unlimited bandwidth connection and there you go, bobs your uncle.

You can find plenty of Colo hosts with such a connection offered for as little as a few grand a month and I'd be willing to wager you could successfully run Jow Forums for $20k a year not counting hardware initial cost and any failures.

but Jow Forums has colo, shitty ohv hosting for images, and cloudflare
wtf anons

Figures a huge machine with 256 is more costly and more likely to be a problem to uptime than just to do a little seaweedfs or ceph or moosefs or cassandra or whatever cluster with a mere 5+ SSD on a bunch of machines (as many as you want). Or throw 15-20 HDD or something at it.

just switch to Trump ISP

>1 server for the world
This is how you get DDoS and die.

this was a lie. hiro only has to pay for a fraction of that bandwidth. there's an infographic explaining the Judaism of this but it's too deep in my files to find

nvm found it, just had to search up hiro jew

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You guys are dumb. It costs next to nothing to run Jow Forums. Have you ever run a website? It's basically free. Unmetered connections cost dirt cheap and this entire site ran for years on ancient mac minis so you know it can run on a goodwill toaster. Don't be so naive, they make this shit up to dissuade potential competition and get people to buy passes.

>What is cloudflare?
Retarded
Costly yes, problem, uh what?
You're saying a few hundred shit boxes are more reliable then one decent server?
Even so, you could have two I guess.

>lgbt second last
All the posters must finally be dying of aids

haha yea political bots at first but now clearly commercial.. i consider it a turing challenge that I'll never know if I'm winning

>Jow Forums(nel) has 24 board only
I don't think so

Cloudflare is not one server. Dumb nigger. Go read your own post.

>Do you believe that people are that stupid to repeat the same kind of shit for months or years?
yes

what host do you recommend for dual hosting seed box and https site?

As said, I'd fix Jow Forums very easily.
Gook take notes:
Free accounts:
>limited to max 1024x1024 images (and in fact it would be better, since thumbnails of large images look like shit).
>no gifs
>no webm
>captchas
>no tripcodes
>no storage. nothing here is worth persisting. just store in RAM for some time.
Paid accounts:
>no image size restrictions
>gifs
>no captchas
>can appeal bans
>tripcodes
>no ads

OK retard.
Why the fuck are you even on Jow Forums then if you're that fucking stupid that you don't even know what cloudflare is or how it works.
Go eat crayons elsewhere

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excuse me?

Don't use runes, you gook.
Text is cheap to transfer and compress. Images are taking most bandwidth. By limiting the file size for free accounts, you can drastically cut down bandwidth usage.
You can even resize them on the fly in the client before uploading. Inb4 /b/ and /gif/, you don't need /b/, amd /gif/ can pay premium accounts.
This approach reduces image shitposting as well, as uploading free takes a bit longer.

Kek

oldfags btfo

Blokada is on the fucking play store

I'd just open donations instead of doing a 20 bucks minimal "donation". I don't give a fuck about captchas, though I'd gladly send 1, 2, 5 bucks once in a while when I have change.
I'm sure he'd make more money allowing this than by putting a 20 dollars entry.

The real problem is how does he collect that money? Paypal wants nothing to do with us. Passes use memecoins atm.

>The real problem is how does he collect that money?

PO Box and money orders.

Fuck paypal. There are alternatives. I'd send him a banknote by mail if I have to.