>CS student in capstone course asks me for help learning a new language for a final the next day that she had 4 weeks to practice >she just started on practice homework >first problem asks to make a simple function that computers the mean >she asks me why it's not working >"You defined the function, but didn't call it" >"huh?" >"You know what it means to define and call functions?" >tilts head to side for a second, then to other side, like a dog trying to think, while looking at screen >"type the function name then parenthesis" >she starts editing the function >"No, you have to call it after the declaration" >shes still confused >grab keyboard and type funcname() >it runs >walk away and say I have to study
Thank god for technical interviews, she'll hopefully never find a job.
this. any of u people that actually believe this shit are beyond help
Asher Long
t. roasties
...Is what the permaincel is going to reply to you.
Jordan Bailey
Throwing degrees at them is easier than fighting frivolous lawsuits from disgruntled retards
Matthew Fisher
>believes this post >calls women stupid
Benjamin Hernandez
I take it that you have never gone to college.
Connor Bell
At least she is trying, I had vietnamese girl with zero skills (she couldn't even do a powerpoint to present milestone) who just tagged along and took ECT's. I'm still salty.
John Rivera
in my eng program, we had to take 2 undergrad classes that were almost 100% MATLAB, the first class being mostly analytical and 2nd mostly numerical methods; some C programming was taught, as well. after these, we had another class that was very MATLAB heavy (akin to signal processing and etc.) and some of the women who passed the first 2 MATLAB courses could not independently program a simple for loop. one single, un-nested, no extra tricks, for loop.
while i was in the classes i personally saw the women attaching themselves to guys to blatantly cheat off of them, to the point of copy/pasting their code for homework. i notified the profs about this and they could not have cared less. school is more about putting the most asses in seats to leech up the guaranteed student loan money for the school, and to pass and push everybody through so that they can cite a high graduation rate to attract more braindead fucks to the program.
additionally, i had to work with a few of them on group projects following the MATLAB classes and they could not do very basic shit--their code didn't even run, it just errored-out and they didn't bother to try to fix it. i told them to stick to writing the introduction/background for the written portion of the project and they couldn't even manage to write one single paragraph above a 4th-grade writing level, and would copy/paste whole sentences from wikipedia. I again e-mailed the professors with evidence of their plagiarism and broken code, and requested that I simply turn in the project myself with no group members. I got told to deal with it, and I started an official complaint with the dean's office about cheating and inept students. The whole department seemed to hate me after that, but I still graduated and i'm a PH.D student elsewhere now.
Bottom line: I 100% believe that a 4th-year CS student doesn't know what a function call it.
honestly my favorite part of that picture is explaining what an int is in the comments because this code was written purely for her twitter following
Dylan Williams
I worked on an intercollegiate team my senior year. I would literally send this fucking guy from a different Uni all the related documentation and sample code for the very thing he didn't know how to do and he still couldn't do shit. Ended up just doing his part of the project because leaving him to do it required him calling me and me having to spoon feed him literally character by character. Some people fraud their way through college. Luckily he went into Web design after graduation I pray for the team if he manages to scam his way into actually writing software.
Jason Ramirez
>I didn't get to go to college There are a lot of very, very stupid people that manage to scrape by with 70%'s
Blake Jones
it fucking returns 5 if b>a
Leo Reed
Surely you need to understand the foundations to get even 70%
Austin Butler
> if (a > b && b < a) {...} this has to be a troll right
Benjamin Cooper
sorry i had too much to drink. it's still shit code tho
Jaxson Thomas
>Thank god for technical interviews, she'll hopefully never find a job. We had a girl that absolutely fucking bombed a preliminary technical interview - like failed the "write a class definition for a Rectangle" type questions. Literally couldn't write a line of code to save her life.
She got hired.
Jack Stewart
nah I meant the karliekloss person, she wrote two checks that are the same thing and ANDed them
Adrian Gomez
Not any more. Most unis have dropped the "Make everything so hard that 98% of students won't possibly be able to finish the test, then curve" style of doing things. Most final exams are *maybe* 10 questions and at least half of those are "gimme" points. The other 5 you can bullshit your way through and if you even at least attempted it and got ANY part of your answer even somewhat correct, you can get partial credits.
So more or less you can lie through your teeth and still pass.
that was my experience at a state college degree mill, too. i did my phd there too and as a TA i brought one students exam to the professor and put down the exam next to the answer key side by side. the retard even copied a box with equations that was in the answer key but wasn't asked for on the exam.
as far as i know, nothing was done about it.
Colton Hall
How do you get an answer key into an exam and then use it without anyone noticing? Ours are done in big rooms like gymnasiums on desks without anywhere to hide things and has invigilators roaming around.
Asher Russell
never underestimate poos
Lucas Lee
you do realize that curves are even worse, right? as an undergrad i was in the group of people that would actually pass the exam. i typically scored >90% but there was always 5 or so of us that would score >70%. then the rest of the class (40+ students typically) would all be clustered around a low score, e.g. 30 to 40%.
instead of giving 5 of us passing grades and failing the rest, the 30 to 40% range would become a C. there was no advantage to scoring higher than 60% because that would guarantee you an A in almost every engineering course. then all those retards that scribble bullshit equations on their exam and the TA gave them mercy points that amounted to 30% or so get a C and become engineers. my school was filled with assorted shitskins, so they will certainly get hired.
Henry Cruz
you've clearly never been to college or met the kind of roasties that can be found in comp sci or IT classes.
Robert Brooks
my guess is that someone went to see a TA the previous time the course was offered and took a picture of the answer key. the professors are lazy fucks so they reuse the same exams even when it's blatant that there's rampant cheating. then that picture gets passed around semester after semester. it's not exactly hard to pull out your phone or hide it on your lap during an exam.
i'm not even going to give them the benefit of the doubt of memorizing it because they were way too retarded. the worst part is that the most obvious cheaters would come see me after the exam and try to argue back for 1 or 2 extra points that they lost when they already had a near perfect grade. one of them i think even wrote in what he was missing, but since i didn't photocopy the exam i couldn't prove it.
but seriously, what boggles my mind is that it was just a series of true or false questions. the only reason that equation bank was on the answer key, as far as i could tell, is that so if someone came to you during office hours you can justify the answers with the equations. you weren't asked for them in the actual questions, but that retard was so brain dead he still copied the equation bank and even put it in the identical location that it was in the answer key.
Oliver Turner
>Shalom Ayash which one of you fuckers did this
Hunter Smith
Damned if you do[n't] I guess. Also it's unrealistic to expect professors to fail 80% of their classes. They actually have to provide justification at my uni to fail somebody in a senior or graduate level class, which is fucking ridiculous. But it's just as ridiculous to have an upper classmen size of 3 dudes.
Luis Collins
nice sexism thread you have going. No wonder STEM is so toxic.
Brandon Cox
I could have mentioned her race. Imagine what the thread would have been if I did that.
Hudson Roberts
yeah, but at the same time how can you justify giving someone that gets 30% on an exam a C? you could claim that it's professors fault or that the exam is flawed, but then how do you explain the fist sized group of people that score legitimately passing marks (>70%)? the truth is that people who shouldn't have been admitted into the program were because they pay the tuition. then instead of being flunked out they are passed along because the professors aren't allowed to fail them, because again those students pay the tuition.
anyone that has a lower than 3.5 GPA and didn't go to a top school is not worth hiring. even 3.5 might be a low cut off depending on how much bullshit the school pulls.
Zachary Scott
desu if you were one of the smart ones, at any school, you should've just hopped off and gotten a masters. Graduating college with a 3.8+ is a lot different from just acing everything in highschool, it's not supposed to be easy and you're the type of person who should seek graduate education to really differentiate yourself.
Brandon Campbell
What the fuck.
Samuel Gomez
i was too stupid to get a masters and got a phd instead. now i'm in a shit job i hate.
Owen Martinez
How do you spend 5+ years getting a PhD and not stay in research?
Luis Richardson
no, that's the problem. i am in research, but i have no passion for it. it's even worse than grad school because at least then the results would be peer reviewed before they were published. here the work is half assed to the max and then just crammed into a report and passed along to the funders. i had to do CFD simulations on a fucking laptop until recently. a colleague and i have been pushing for an actual CFD capable work station and we might finally get it funded. there is a constant lack of resources, time, and idiotic expectations from people that don't even fully understand what's going on.
if i wanted to be a scientist then i would have gone into a pure science. i went into engineering because i was interested in problem solving. the reason why i went to grad school is because it seemed more interesting than being a CAD monkey and those were the only jobs i was getting calls for after undergrad. so far i had the time off for the holidays to look forward to and keep me going. after new years i'm not sure how much longer i'll last.
Asher Wright
*hopefully she figures shit out
Chase Lopez
Well A) Don't do research then. Get into applied engineering with that fancy ass PhD, lots of skunkworks labs would love to have you, and most of that ends up just being "okay well just engineer some new bullshit nobody else has done and that'll be our 'research'" Who do you think is getting hired for all these self-driving car programs? B) It sounds like you work at a fucking shitty place. Go find a different lab to work at that will spend $3000 on a fucking dual-socket server board to run simulations on. If they're not willing to invest in material to do research then they don't get their fucking research.
Henry Gray
i've had by far the worst luck with military contractors. not once have they responded to my applications. the closest i got was a response from GE aviation for some bullshit valve testing position. the pay was alright but that position seemed completely uninteresting.
>If they're not willing to invest in material to do research then they don't get their fucking research. that's how i see things too but that's not how they operate. all the projects are third party funded, so the lower the budget the higher the chance of the project being funded. so far every single project i worked on was underfunded and ran out of money before the project was completed. we also function like a consulting firm where you have to fill out time sheets. you're expected to maintain a certain billability rate, but at the same time these projects are underfunded so if you overcharge then you kill the projects budget. it's fucked every which way.
Parker Brown
I swear this person is some kind of troll. Even redditors shit on her for being so vile.
Not that user but at my all the zoomers were using the class discord to cheat off each other or at least rely too much on each other. Also I went to a smaller school so a lot of the professors graded easier.
Parker Davis
>Military contractors dude no. Half the time those people will just give tenured professors at universities a bunch of funding because they know its cheap and they already have clusters ready, I knew a guy whose advisor was directly contracted to debug the F35's cockpit HUD system because the people they hired couldnt do it. Either incompetence or lack of resources, but they did it.
>Expected to maintain time sheets Yeah whatever you're working on with whatever company is fucking shit. What was your PhD in? There are tons of booming fields right now. Also check out middle-eastern research labs, they love gobbling up westerners for a few years.
Jose Moore
Has anyone considered that she may have just typed a bunch of bullshit into the terminal to fill it up for the photo?
Owen Flores
not an argument you white knight faggot
Mason White
my phd was in experimental chemical kinetics. being honest i can't say i've learned much, if anything, of value in grad school. just pissed away 5 years and got a piece of paper which explains the shit job i ended up in.
Aiden Barnes
bro obviously you dont understand the feminine mystique. she was just making absolutely sure yknow
Jaxon Allen
explain why she has beginner learning scripts like array.rb, crazy_strings.rb, hello world, etc, on her computer, open in her editor. who has these files even on their computer if they've been programming for more than 2 months, and furthermore who has them open?
Julian Bell
Well that's definitely pretty specific. Petroleum companies or places like Boeing have to want people like you though for material sciences right? Also I have to agree on the "not learned shit" part so far. I'm almost done with my masters and I feel like all I've done is rewrite some bad code in a program developed in the 90s. I don't know how the fuck this is supposed to turn into a paper.
you'd think so, but my degree is in mechanical engineering and they want chemistry or material science guys for that. my degree plus experience put me in a weird situations where i'm the jack of a few trades but master of none.
thesis masters were always strange to me. between the time that you finish your classes/get an adviser/project and the time that you're writing your thesis you really only have about half a year to a year at most to work on a project. it's difficult to get anything substantial done in that time particularly since you will have limited resource and support available to you.
my greatest regret is not bailing 2 years in and leaving with a coursework only masters.
Liam Williams
>bring in third world shitskins with made up credentials to interview >wonder why they can't program
Andrew Jones
what is this handwriting, was this written by a third grader
Carter Foster
I am _in_ the third world.
Yeah, students do not write any more. They type. Pic related.
I like how this character acknowledges the plight and reason behind the behaviors of socially-awkward engineers, but then immediately proceeds to trivialize their life-defining experiences (traumas, really) and shit all over them because they don't like to socialize, like going to bars or after-work parties.
Nathaniel Hughes
>Needing a map for basic step iterations Jesus christ.
Austin Thomas
sorry pal this is what haskell looks like
Aaron Diaz
here I got u, couldn't get rid of the map but i made it more explicit foldr (>>) (return ()) . map print $ unfoldr (\x -> if x < 200 then Nothing else Just (x, x-15)) 700
Connor Ross
okay I get its a functional language but cmon Simple iteration spaces should not be this fucking complicated This is why nobody uses functional languages in any serious manner, with the sole exception of clojure which is still pretty goddamn rare and is MOSTLY just used because DURR MAP REDUCE There's no easy way to run these expressions in parallel in these languages and everything is a manycore system, why wouldnt you
Tyler Mitchell
I should have some more by March.
blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/ >Like me, the author is having trouble with the fact that 199 out of 200 applicants for every programming job can't write code at all. I repeat: they can't write any code whatsoever. It is in no way a meme. After a typical 4 years of college, 90% of CS graduates cannot write any code AT ALL.
William Diaz
Yeah. I sometimes feel like they don't really like me because I don't like using discord and didn't join the server/room whatever discord calls it. Either that or because I'm like 7 years older than my peers.
Eli Rivera
>programming applicant = CS graduate Fuck off retard.
