Jow Forums, explain why jython isn't the best language ever. Here is a tip, you can't!
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Python and Java are the two worst languages. Combining them makes them even worse.
Fpbp
Because ironpython is better
>java
>bad
Every time I see someone say that Java is bad, I know immediately that they're both a shit programmer and a language loyalist who can't objectively compare the pros and cons of different languages and their applications. You are literally either a novice or intermediate programmer, but no more than that.
Because it’s not active and the community is dead and it doesn’t support the newest version of python and well python is ugly desu.
This. But also python programmers rarely ever move past that phase, it’s a shame it’s like their community is such a circle
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jerk, they never see a reason to learn anything else. They don’t even realize that the only parts of python that are fast or any good are written in C or C++. What can we do?
every time I see someone defending Java, I just KNOW that they shit in the street. please do the needful sir
StringBuilder is a microcosm of Java's approach to OOP
There are some dumb fucks that can sort of learn Python and do work with it. But you can go farther than you think. The python API makes it really easy to extend Python in C like you mention. Python is, in fact, just a wrapper around C. So I don't know man.... these things bleed into each other. Maybe judging a programmer by their actual skills is best, rather than a language. Whatever I'm drunk and shit's fucked.
Poojeet
Are you telling me Java is a good language? Yeah , no. Try reading a file without having to stack multiple readers and writers. There is so much bloat in Java it is a nightmare. There is a reason why people used to flock to it, because that was what banks and other corporations used to have to use. Now, we are advancing tech, and Java is just a vestigial programming language that is only good to torture first year college students. People draw a circle in JavaFX or Swing in less than 100 years. Java's syntax is only promoted because it forces third world "programmers" to think twice about their code. It is literally there just so bad programmers can't break things. If you're a good programmer, and you follow proper programming guidelines, and you can read english, then you do not need Java.
>In stem
>Know plenty of math and stats
>Get really annoyed at doing all my work in Excel or by hand
>Learn basic python
>Graduate
> get job as a data scientist
>Copy paste SQL off stack exchange
>Make the big tech money without the big tech autism
Explain why I need to learn another language? ( I also know some R, but I only barely)
Infact I feel like I am getting worse at python. I feel like learning programatic way of thinking was more important than python itself. I barely even write new code anymore, but knowing how to think through some suedo code in my head helps me catch errors in processes.
What possible benefits could learning C or Java or whatever get me?
>popular language bad
I was stuck in the Python daze after college too because wow it can do everything! Python is great for many things but it seems it's mostly used for prototyping and web stuff. R is only good for teaching statistics I think.
Learn a compiled language, all the big boy programming is done in Java or c
>Try reading a file without having to stack multiple readers and writers.
sure
String fileContent = new String(Files.readAllBytes(path), charset);
java isn't great, but why is it always criticized by fucking idiots who know nothing about it and programming in general and their critique is straight up false?
My dream is to be a programmer. (software developer specifically)
Sometimes I feel like I just can't do it. Am I just being a lazy fuck?
Why do I get distracted easily when I work on small projects I want to finish.
I end up playing fucking video games or watch dumbass youtube videos.
It feels like there is so much I have to learn and im not capable of it.
Help me stop acting like an unmotivated faggot Jow Forums
Some serious competition with jruby
Dumb frog poster.
Because the way it's taught causes people to think there's never any alternative, and there always, always, is.
Lacks unsigned. Fuck off now
But I don't want to be a programmer I want to keep doing what I am doing but better.
just do it, faggot. I got a job with skills I obtained by LITERALLY just lurking /wdg/ and fucking around on an RPi with Apache
>compiled language
>java
pick one
Meh, you get my point.
If you are going to use a unityped language on the JVM, there is no reason to choose the outdated, barely supported Jython over the actively developed Clojure.
>I've read that Java has just overtaken Cobol as the most popular language. As a standard, you couldn't wish for more. But as a medium of expression, you could do a lot better. Of all the great programmers I can think of, I know of only one who would voluntarily program in Java. And of all the great programmers I can think of who don't work for Sun, on Java, I know of zero.
paulgraham.com
The JVM and its bytecode are okay. Java is a terrible language for producing bytecode.
>explain why jython isn't the best language ever
Still no support for Python 3.
It literally is. It compiles both to bytecode and to machine language.
I'm not going to say it's bad, but it seems to be the favorite language of people who who struggle to learn one language and then decide to never learn another. The worst programming I've seen has mostly been in Java.
Fucking this. Richard fucking Stallman. Java might not be the worse language, but it definitely has the worst programmers.
What's the problem with StringBuidler?
an aversion to design patterns is a microcosm of Jow Forums's approach to programming.
python sucks without multiline lambdas. i'm sorry I just can't adopt it until they fix that.
some people think it's a nitpick, but it's a really big deal for me.
>Java is a terrible language for producing bytecode.
>t. someone that doesnt know what they're talking about