/pcbg/ - Pc Building General

*slight boost in multi core speed
cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/4031vs3955

GTX 1070 brand new for 290? For comparison RX 590s are between 250 and 280.

Weird build with multi GPU for machine learning. 2070 is the best chipset, but is windforce a good card if I'm not overclocking or anything? And will it be alright with that style fan in this case with 2 GPUs? Also don't know anything about thermal paste and just went with the most popular.

>CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($304.88 @ OutletPC)
>CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($6.58 @ OutletPC)
>Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.89 @ B&H)
>Memory: G.Skill - Flare X Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($204.89 @ OutletPC)
>Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.00 @ Amazon)
>Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($498.99 @ SuperBiiz)
>Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.85 @ Walmart)
>Power Supply: *EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($135.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $2167.04

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>when will the Ryzen meme end? 2600 R5 is way gimped compared to 9600k
Whether or not a coffeelake i5 has a faster IPC, is irrelevant when the IPC of a 2nd gen Ryzen won't be bottle necking anything short of a 1080ti at 1080p. Then there's the pitfalls of being thread limited as Steve Burke points out;
youtu.be/F92byoMgptU?t=230
When will the overpriced i5 meme end?

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Alternatively, if for somestrange reason you've decided you're allergic to AMD, then spring for an i7. Spending money on a mid-high end system with a sub 8 threaded CPU in 2018 is retarded.
pcpartpicker.com/list/tnCNFt

The only time a 1070 was a good deal was when Pascal was new. Getting 980ti performance for a significant cost and power consumption saving was great. Ever since Vega forced Nvidia to show their hand with the 1070ti however, both the 1070 and 1080 haven't made much market sense (apart from some great 1080 sales like the $299 EVGA B-stock sales about 4-5 months ago).

Fucking kill me. I'm a turd worlder with no money and my GPU (270X, five years old) just died.
>playing Path of Exile
>get a hard freeze outta nowhere, monitor on the iGPU looks fine apart from frozen while the other two gave an image that was nothing but vertical lines of a different shade on each monitor
>hard reset PC
>windows logo
>nothing, monitors go into power saving mode
>nani
>bsod related to GPU pops up on iGPU screen from blackness
>safe mode, DDU, wipe all drivers (works absolutely fine in safe mode)
>reboot
>still get the same even thought no drivers, all goes black after windows logo
>update DDU, wipe again, get into windows and now the dGPU is in 800x600 mode and 5 seconds later I get a hard freeze again, cursor won't move num lock LED not responding, the works
>try to boot a Linux ISO on hand
>grub, then GPU drops signal
>try other isos
>same
>try reseating GPU in every possible slot
>same
>realize I was getting some weird microstutter in Path a few hours before, Google says that a card that was stuttering, crashed, and now only works in safe mode is fucked partially and won't work beyond being a simple framebuffer (safe mode)
I started my summer vacation 3 days ago after playing literally zero vidya for 5 months because taking my studies seriously. My college friends all left the city to their hometowns, I have nobody to hand out with. I live outside the city in a shitty dinky costal town with nothing to do. I have 30 US dollars to my name and all cards both new and used go for twice what they do in the US market even if wages here are less than half because fuck you, you don't get to have nice things.

Fucking blow my brains out god please because I don't have the balls, God fucking damn.

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Tfw no anime girl gpu.

It's done bros

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newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126180&Description=vega 56&cm_re=vega_56-_-14-126-180-_-Product

So what the fuck is this
It has no reviews and is surprisingly affordable

rebranded strix, one of the worst coolers along with gigabyte vega cards. Still better than a blower.

It's probably to prevent stuff like having a 1080Ti but with a 60Hz 1080p monitor.

>8gb
>minimal desktop/gaming
since when? 8gb is enough to handle 99% of aaa games

Does running older games like Oblivion or Morrowind at 1440p look weird or do they look better? I'm not sure if I want a 1440p monitor because I play a lot of older games

>remove all plastic shit
>put your gpu on something non conductive
>throw it in your oven for 10 minutes @ 200c
>wait for it to cool
>put it back in pc

>buying rtx for machine learning
l0l enjoy your gimped card, you need a quadro

I unironically want waifus/artwork on graphics cards again. Maybe on the backplates since blower coolers are a shit.

I fucking hate this new Freesync/Gsync shit, before I just bought Nvidia or AMD based on which one was better/affordable that gen but now that I have to take the monitor into consideration as well I have to stick with one. Fuck Nvidia for not just supporting Freesync and keeping Gsync for what it was originally intended for, extending the life of old shit cards.

if it wasn't for nvidia freesync monitors wouldn't exist because amd didn't do shit with it before. be glad you have any choice at all

why the fuck are 1440p/144hz 24' monitor choices so limited?

>before I just bought Nvidia or AMD based on which one was better/affordable that gen
Nvidia is a better choice 90% of the time so going G-sync and having it forever is ideal.

last time asking this
pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/t2YLrH,pcF48d,mJGxFT/
which one to get

eyy, i have one of those
dank card

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Can't say for 1440p but they look decent in 1080p. They still look their age though so if you really want a substantial visual improvement I'd suggest downloading some texture mods.

/pcbg/ please recommend me a good monitor to pair with my 2080, personal experiences also greatly welcomed

1440p on 24 inches is kinda overkill
go for 27', it's well worth it

what card?

they look really no different, its as passable as playing on 1080p

Yeah, but I want a 24' monitor, and for it to be overkill.

Asus HD 4870x2 TOP Edition
Its the true definition of the amd housefire meme. Most of them are dead now because one of the GPUs is cooled with the exhaust from the other GPU.
Mine still works fine at least.

everything would probably look tiny unless you plan on having the monitor close in your face

pcpartpicker.com/list/jWhCV6
Is this a good build for my first gaming computer? My budget is 2k usd, but I can comfortably go higher. I'm trying to future-proof my build so I don't have to upgrade for a while. I'll mainly be playing games like Fallout 4, Skyrim, and Dwarf Fortress. Monitor-wise, I don't really know what I am doing. Any thoughts? Should I go with a 9700k over the 8700k? 2080 Ti?

currently:

i5-3570k oc'd .1 ghz from blue screen
1070

i want to upgrade my cpu should i do this ?
microcenter.com/product/5002598/intel-core-i5-9600k,-gigabyte-z390-ud,-cpu---motherboard-bundle

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what do you play?
looks fine. If you want to save a couple hundred you could swap the 2070 and gsync monitor with v64 and requisite freesync
hodl for new intel arch and picrelated

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but am I going to find as good of a deal as that? is the new gen really going to be that much better?

rn my cpu is my bottleneck and when I bought the 1070 wayback when from a 670 everyone said my cpu would be fine

I'd shoot for a 1440p/144hz/IPS with G-sync. Something like an XB271HU is one of the staple high end Nvidia gaming monitors. Can't remember the ASUS equivalent (think it's MG279Q IIRC?), and AOC also makes a competitor.

Don't waste your money on a high end (or any currently for that matter) i5.

ok but are you going to find me a cheaper deal

Stop being faggot and read recommendations and thread. And buy whatever you want, you will face consequences of your actions and next time you will know better (or not).

Either save a bit of money and go for an R5 2600/B450 combo, or spend a bit more and aim for an i7 8700K/9700K (largely irrelevant for a 1070). And this

look at benchmarks for games you're bottle necking in and decide if the perf offset is worth the investment.

based and redpilled thanks

cringe

how did I do? Is it worth getting a cheap aftermarket cooler for a small oc? light gaming and vm use
pcpartpicker.com/list/ZJhCV6

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Red pill me on thermal grizzly kyronaut. Is it worth 3x the price of artic silver? Also how good is a -5 C change from idle (replaced stock with artic silver)?

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have I become a boomer because I don't enjoy building PCs anymore
Like the actual assembly

You can't become a different generation, that's not how it works.

worse then MSI armour?

Bestest Nvidia GPU brand to buy when I want to watercool it with a custom loop?
So I assume something with a reference board for maximum block compatibility.

Or do I go block shopping first and then pick a GPU?

>all these rumors about an 1160
>just bought a 1060 two weeks ago

I'll console myself with the knowledge that by the time the versions worth buying come out and are back in stock after the initial rush and are reasonably priced we'll probably be halfway to the next generation of cards anyway.

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i'm blue da ba dee da ba daa

MSI (armour brand). Armour cards have the same PCB as the Gaming G1 line but with way worse cooling. Thus if you want to use custom cooling take an armour card and dispose of the armour cooling and use your own cooling solution.

This also applies if you want to go Red.

Not the gaming G1 but the Gaming X. Stuff still applies

if i can get the ryzen 5 2600x for 10 more then the 2600 it's worth it I assume? only difference between the two is that the 2600x just cools better with it's stock cooler?

Fuck lads, how do I choose a monitor?
I've got a 27" monitor
1440p @ 59Hz
I've had it for years and looking to upgrade with a new G-Sync monitor but trying to find the right one is fucking killing me.

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Alright, will have a look at those, thanks!

Maybe it's worth for just 10 more but 2600x will be hotter than 2600 even with the better cooler.

Higher power draw?

Just make sure to check that the PCB"s are the same just to be 100% sure.

Why would you buy a new monitor just for g-sync if you already have 1440p?
Try to overclock it for higher frequency and buy the g-sync kit to install it on your current monitor.
Yes 2600 is 65w while 2600x is 95w. 2600x is overall stupid since you get 7% higher clock speed for 40% more power draw.

2600 or Just Wait™ for Zen 2?

>fell for the amd meme
>got a freesync monitor with a vega 56
>if I want to make a legitimate upgrade I have to buy a $500+ gpu AND a $300 monitor

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I'm somewhat new to PC building and was wondering if Ryzen is worth the hype. I ended up buying a i5 8600k and 1080 for my first build and am starting to regret not buying a 2600x instead. (Bought 8600k at $220).

I don't think I'll be able to get to 144hz let alone know how to.

don't need a 300$ monitor, gsync/freesync is a meme and only adds input delay dont use it, tearing isn't bad on 144hz+ anyway

Is there any reason not to keep my 5 year old CX750M psu when I buy new mobo, graphics card, processor and RAM?

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No. You can keep using it until it breaks.

Do AMD released a roadmap for their GPU ?

PSUs are usually good for 6-8 years but i would never risk 1500+ worth of hardware just to save 100 bucks by reusing the old PSU.

pcpartpicker.com/list/fpx7q4

Can I get an opinion on this build?

Budget: $3000 Canadia Bux
Usage: Gaming 1440p 144hz, web dev, light video & photo editing

Planning on OCing to 5Ghz

>gsync/freesync is a meme and only adds input delay dont use it
Walk into a box knife

google.com/search?q=amd radeon roadmap&oq=amd radeon roadmap&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.6258j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Thanks for the response.

What is the risk, actually?

I have heard different things regarding whether or not a faulty psu can fry the rest of a system.

>a faulty psu can fry the rest of a system
Yup, that is all there is to it. The older a PSU the more likely it is to go bzzzzzt.

The 9700k is only 40 bucks more and you don't have to delid it and hope for a winning silicone lottery ticket to get it above 5ghz.

I'd get either a 9600k or 9700k instead with a z390 motherboard.
Both don't have hyperthreading, but for light video editing I'd rather have 2 more real cores.

The average framerate is higher but the 1% and 0.1% lows are so bad that games are a stuttering mess.

If you cant afford an i7 or it does not makes sense with the weak GPU you are buying then you would be pants on head retarded to buy a non-SMT i5 chip over Ryzen.

Smooth framerate trumps average FPS every single time.

>build computers for little cousins
>afraid it's going to be unusable for them because i picked a celeron and went with just 4gb ram due to my aunt's budget concerns
>install it @ my aunt's house
>cousin turns computer on and opens the browser to go to his favorite flash game website
>"wow it's so fast!"
based little buddy

You're pretty good still. Haswell is aging but it's still fine. I'd just wait for Navi and see how your CPU is handling at that point.
I need to do a fresh build much sooner, Kingdom Come Deliverance rapes my 3570k despite it being a generation above the minimum, and overclocked to 4.5.

Alright Jow Forumsuys, I got an AMD FX8350 for free and need a mobo.
I already tried the Gigabyte GA-970-DS3P, but my Wifi card doesn't work with that and I always get "main bios corrupted" and it loads the backup bios. Flashing didn't help.

So, is the ASRock 970 Pro3 a good alternative? Or are there simply no good mainboards for AM3+?

I've had a great experience with my asrock mobo, it's not AM3+ though.

Ah I was reformatting my post but I'll just save it for the future then if I should be alright.

My main issue is that Prey and Hitman 2 have both been a bit choppy even with adjusted settings, but maybe that's on the devs because the recent HM2 update increased my FPS quite a bit.

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Wholesome.

You will never be able to find a 1160 for less than 350 bucks, you can find a 6g 1060 for 200 easily. And, the investment is worthy only if it's 1070ti tier.

Should I stick with the current cooler if I move towards the 9700k also what Z390 mobo do you recommend?

I fucking hope AMD recreates 2009 with Navi.
>get a couple $150 cards
>crossfire them
>blow out your competition's high end
We need actual competition back in the game again.

au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YmDGRJ

uhh is this shit or what

How much does a case affect noise? My GPU is extremely loud in my 8 year old budget case

A simple rule to follow:

Let the GPU cost the same as the rest of your components.

Here you are spending 334,42$ on a cpu solution and pairing it with a 1070. sure the cpu is good. but you wont benefit from it as the gpu will bottleneck everything.

if you go with a 2600x it costs 209,99 with cooler you can upgrade your gpu to a better card.

If you go with a B450 motherboard to accompany that 2600x you will get an additinal 129$ to put into a gpu as well.

this gives you 250$ extra to spend towards a gpu, and that will give you way higher fps as cpus do not matter that much in gaming, especially if you game on 1440P

The only downside with ryzen is that you have to spend some extra on RAM. And sure the 2600x isnt as fast in gaming as the 9600k but you will end up with much higher fps as the bottleneck is the 1070.

For example:

pcpartpicker.com/product/wX7CmG/gskill-flare-x-series-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gfx

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Judging by your cable management and lack of caring enough to install your drives properly I wouldn't worry.

Ni/g/gers, were the new AyyMD CPUs delayed? I was thinking they would release april/may but i read somewhere they wouldn't even be announced this CES in january. I was thinking about waiting to build a gaymen PC but if this is true i would just pull the trigger on the 2700x this january. k thx