Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Great gaming or multithreaded use CPUs >i7 8700/K or i7 9700K - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X or i9 9900K - VM Work / Streaming / Video editing
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >AMD B and X chipsets and Intel Z chipets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1050 3GB (bad value), RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and Vega 56 are standard choices >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
if you arent gonna answer my question please dont respond to my post
Adam Russell
nah im being generous for Nvidia it was closer to $160, the 460 se was the cut down 104 die for Fermi and Turing cut down 104 is the 2080, just ask me how i know you are underage
Xavier Jenkins
I aswered it retard, make nvidia have reasonable prices again by not buying it you dumb sheep.
Blake Powell
Nice one, idiot. Perhaps next you'll wonder why graphics cards require external power connectors now
Colton Davis
you didnt answer my question, im buying a 2080 and would like to know which one to buy, i dont give a shit if you think its overpriced, thats not what i asked
Dominic Foster
I'm building a libre pc using the Asus kcma-d8. Was trying to decide between the opteron 4240 and 4284. Do the two extra cores of the 4284 allow the cpu to outperform the higher clock speed of the 4240?
Adrian Ross
imagine being so retarded you cant see that >cut down 104 gpu 2010 cost: $160 >cut down 104 gpu 2018 cost: $900 And try to justify it with >duh it has mot power pins its obviously not in nvidias lower mid range
Ian Edwards
>im buying a 2080 just know that that level of gpu costed $160 8 years ago and fags like you have been driving the prices up because you actual cucks will buy anything nvidia tells you to
Samuel Taylor
again, i dont care about what you think, stop shitting up the thread
Owen Campbell
>gAyyyMDog being retarded Cute.
Nathan Price
Imagine being suprised that cutting edge tech costs more in 2018 than in 2010 Imagine being so stupid that you can't understand my comment about power requirements
Josiah Foster
Alright I feel retarded. I just got a Ryzen 2600X and I'm trying to overclock by changing the multiplier. I noticed that when you do this you lose the automatic frequency scaling. Is there no way to tell it to set a higher frequency ceiling instead of locking the frequency at 4ghz or whatever?
I know this is a noob question but before this I owned a locked Intel CPU for several years so I'm not up to speed on OCing this new shit.
Landon Brown
>i don't care if in a consumerist cuck paying $900 for something worth $160 Don't come to Jow Forums expecting people to not call you retarded if you do something retarded, go to reddit if you want a safespace full of fags that will treat you like a retarded child
Jason Sanders
youre literally the ONLY person that calls people retarded for asking what 2080 to get, Ive been in these threads forever and no one gives a shit what graphics card you buy stop shitting up the thread you retard, make your own nvidia hate thread if you have nvidia so much
Kayden Wood
>worth $160 Get out of your fantasy land, retard
Aiden Perry
nice argument still doesn't disprove that a cut down 104 costed $160 8 years ago
>cutting edge tech its a cut down 104, full 104, cut down 102 and full 102 and full 100 are all above cut down 104 in nvidias product code name stack, its far from cutting edge
Hunter Jenkins
Because im the only person he that isn't retarded because its just you and some aspergered pajeet
Bentley Scott
>AMD fag ruins another /pcbg/ really getting tired of this episode /pcbg/
if nvidia charged 160$ for a cut down 104 gpu in 2010 why is it now $900, do you have any reason as to what made it more expensive for nvidia to make it
Why do you AMDtards have to ruin these threads? This shit started because someone wanted a recommendation on what graphics card to buy, and you decided to go on an autistic tirade. Fuck off.
Lucas Johnson
the 9700k really doesnt get hot if you have an actual good cpu cooler, i have an nhd15 and its always below 60 degrees at 5ghz
Nolan Watson
They don't get that hot. They are not AMD anymore.
Benjamin Cruz
>actual good cpu cooler what a industrial chiller like toms has to use on a i9 in their review?
Angel Rogers
no, like an nhd15 or be quiet dark rock pro 4 or something like that as i said
Why did you put a housefire in the OP after 70+ threads with no complaints about the i9 not being there
Cameron Baker
Yeah, sure thing, user. I'm definitely the OP.
Daniel Scott
Sound Blaster 16
Michael Clark
AMD CPUs are fine now. The only real housefire CPUs nowadays are the HEDT shit. The Piledriver days are behind us thankfully
Aiden Allen
>I love not being able to enjoy 1440p 144Hz
Evan Nelson
>somehow 100 mhz and logical threads make it hotter How fucking retarded are you
David Martin
>shill puts i9 in OP >only one person in the thread rabidly defends it just a (((coincidence))) im sure
Asher Morris
Am I missing something or is that image calling the NH-D15 "closed loop cooling". At any rate everyone knows that CPU turns into an inferno if you do a 5ghz+ oc on it
Ethan Ramirez
But I wasn't defending the i9, retard, I was referring to the autism about the graphics card
Gabriel Wood
Looks fine to me.
Henry Hill
copy and paste mistake
Kevin Cooper
>i love paying $900 for a $160 gpu
William Ortiz
Not an AMD drone but I really hope Zen2 puts Intel in their place. Their inefficient inferno "muh single core performance" CPUs are overpriced.
Carter Reed
the 8700k is realistically the only intel cpu you should buy tbqh senpai
Carson Butler
>housefires are fine
Joshua Morales
>EOL shit with thermal jizz is all you should buy
Cameron Green
Maybe he lives where it snows.
Wyatt Moore
>plugging the front panel wires into the motherboard
>9700k >housefire ya the 9900k is for the 9700k is hardly any hotter than the 8700k maybe if youre trying to heavily OC it with a 240mm rad or something
Jace Hughes
but* not for
Caleb Wilson
Housefires are for insurance fraud not heating
Joseph Hughes
>unironically shilling the i9-9900kotatsu in the OP
Ok look here you absolute faggot, you wanna argue like this? Everything only has as much value as we attribute it, technically that 900$ gpu is as worthless as a pile of shit, nothing has intrinsic value and our monetary system is a perversion of nature. Now what?
>hardly any hotter than the 8700k >lightning is hardly any hotter than the surface of the sun
Evan Lopez
Oh, I don't know, perhaps the fact that it's on 12nm and the FACT that the 2070 has 20x the number of transistors as the 470 did By that logic, the 2070 should be 160 x 20 = $3000, not counting inflation Fucking retard, you have no clue
Zachary Cox
wow, i thought you were seriously retarded but were only trolling, ive ran machines with both the 8700k and 9700k and if you wish to push it to 4.9-5ghz, the cooler you use to push it there will always keep it under 65 degrees unless you live in the middle africa just because you spout "le housefire xD" doesnt actually make it true
Nathaniel Sullivan
Can you fucks who are derailing the thread fuck off? Holy shit
that would be an argument if nvidia wasn't already charging $160 for a 104 gpu when AMD was better than them and decided to take recent events as an excuse charge more, screencap this the 3080 is most likely going to be a $1200 106 gpu because fags like you didnt tell nvidia no
Michael Jones
>intel enjoy the housefire
John Murphy
the i5 doesnt work at all its shit
Ethan Gutierrez
>all Intel CPUs are housefires Fuck off already, AyyMDipshit. >i5
Daniel Rivera
They're mad someone different made the OP
Of course they work, but the i5 8600K is not recommended on a price/performance basis
Lucas Sullivan
works on my machine ;)
Isaiah Hall
It great for gaming. It on par with i7 in games. Don't listen to AMD shills and i7 fags who only bought 7, because it's higher number therefore it must be better.
the post you posted that graph to was specifically saying that not ALL intel cpus (specifically the i5 that the post above was thinking about) run hot, we all know the 9900k runs hot
Wyatt Hall
Which we all know is a housefire. You claim that all Intel CPUs are like that though.
Leo Morgan
>rajesh come down here and open presents with us >NO MOM I HAVE TO DEFEND INTEL ON Jow Forums
>posts power consumption while arguing about temps They aren't sending their best.
Angel Richardson
So explain how with shitty thermal jizz and higher power consumption the intel cpus will perform better thermally than AMD, you are on delusional shill. >POWER CONSUMPTION DOESNT MATTER the memes are real
Wyatt Murphy
fucking hell lads I think I've done it, and it only took five hours
I put the cooler on the wrong way round so took it off and put it back on and the paste was all smeared and shit, is that going to be okay? I thought there was supposed to be a plastic thing you peeled off to reveal the paste but the wraith stealth cooler just goes commando so I got gunk all over my fingers trying to peel that.
