Previous thread: Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™ >Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Modern models: >X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light >T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series >T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0 >T440s - best price/performance ultra portable >T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)
Why ThinkPad? >Used machines are plentiful and cheap >Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet >Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels >Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models >Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop >Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain >The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad >Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support
Getting a T540p second-hand and planning to put a new SSD in it, what drivers should I install and what should I not install?
Alexander King
What operating system is best for Thinkpad usability and battery life?
Jackson Sullivan
What operating system? Unironically windows tends to have the best power management out of the box but minimal linux installs will usually have better battery life.
Brandon Phillips
Jow Forums here, t430 3 SSD's, 16 Go RAM, 1600x900, t420 classic keyboard, 9 cell main battery + 9 cell second battery. looking forward to put an i7 qm and change the fan/heatsink and power adapter when i get more money, I also want to mod the screen to FHD but i need to buy the adapter from chinks.
>snow outside >warm blanket >hot cocoa >Morrowind on my x61
Merry Christmas, boys.
Jordan Lopez
My T440p doesn't beep when I unplug it or plug it in. How can I fix this?
Ian Ross
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™ Is the L series ok if I have a low budget?
Robert Hernandez
merry christmas comfy user
Michael Wood
Merry Christmas /tpg!/ How many Thinkpads do you own? What do you use them for? Me: x220 - school computer. I got a slice battery for it and it lasts me all day. super easy to carry around, and it's good enough for my CS classes. it looks like a piece of crap and it's got arch+i3 on it so the affirmative action kids won't try to steal it. w520 - primary computer at home. I got it docked and I use it for more processor intensive stuff (photo editing, painting, gaming) t450s - just bought one to give myself as a christmas present. hoping that it can replace both my current thinkpads as a home + school solution. paid about $230 for it, which seems to be a decent enough deal.
Thomas Martin
what's your budget? older models are dirt cheap and still better than L models.
Got my dad a a T440 that has Win 10 on it but I know he still uses Win 7. Is there anyway to get the Win 10 key and use it on another machine or isitlocked to the Thinkpad? My dad's too much of a boomer to use Win 10 and I'd rather not be his tech support fixing it everytime an update breaks something.
Nicholas Hernandez
I'm not sure about japan but I got my x220 here in America for about $100.
I want a cheap tablet thinkpad preferably 16:10 which one do you recommend Jow Forums?
Jayden Ross
>Thinkpad Yoga 460 Use this for uni and drawing dual boot 10 ltsb and debian >x220 For distro hopping. Currently using it as an anime machine running osx though. IINA is peak comfy
>t410 Not got a use for it yet needs a battery and a drive before i got osx i used to sometimes and just put my x220 drive in there but cant do that with the osx install
Whats a gokd amount of ram to get for the last 2 currently only have 3gb and 4gb. I was thinking of getting 8gb for each. Would single dimms be best incase i want more later on?
Camden Cooper
I need a slim portable 15" laptop that would allow me to run VM's comfortably and to do some light gaymen on the side, so I've narrowed down my choice to the Dell XPS 15 and the Thinkpad X1 extreme
At first I wanted to go for the X1 extreme but I've read that Lenovo's QC was utter shit and I don't want to go through the hassle of sending my laptop back 3 times in a row
thoughts ?
Jeremiah Jackson
ok no more memepads for me until ryzenpads get cheap
Bought a T440s because i have to travel a lot and far to work, and its fucking amazing. My parents have an old HP like 10 years old, they noticed my new laptop and they might want one too. What model should i get for them? I feel a T440s would be too small, and they mostly use their laptop on the desk so a large laptop is fine too.
Adrian Price
I'm seriously considering building an X301 from parts from 2 destroyed X301s for a total of ~$70, should I do it? I want an ultraportable daily driver, and the 13 inch form factor seems ideal for me. Does anybody here have one?
Christian Davis
Is this one of those newer Thinkpad?
Cooper Morgan
I was ready to buy an A485, but then I read Linux didn't like Ryzen mobile chips. How true is this? Would be running n00buntu on it.
Justin Martin
is it worth it to tear a part my t430 and flash coreboot?
it doesn't ultimately remove ME like trannyboot, so honestly what's the benefit?
me_cleaner neutralizes ime pretty effectively. Also you get whitelists removed, overclocking for quad cores unlocked, and muh freedumbs. People claim that boots faster than stock UEFI but for me the difference is minimal.
Colton Brown
Which Thinkpads should I look at if I have about a grand to spend on one? All I care about is good performance, screen and build quality. Don't really care about the size as long as it isn't outrageously big, good cooling so the CPU doesn't throttle is more important. I'd prefer a 15 inch model, but 13 inch works as well.
Does the newer Thinkpads like T560 and T570 have user upgradable RAM and storage?
Logan Peterson
P50, P51 non-S T-series generally have good cooling but they use ULV chips. 15-inch T-series models have 2 DIMMS and a 2.5 inch slot.
Brandon Gutierrez
What's the best I machine I could get with 400 bucks?
Thomas Morgan
unfortunately i have the 35w i7 that cant be oc'ed and i dont really need ac wifi. me_cleaner may be worth it though, have not looked as much into as i have coreboot desu
Jordan Long
I have a Surface Pro 6 All I want from a thinkpad is: 2in1 ( folding convertible or ability to pull apart like the surface, doesn't matter), a stylus and good cooling/little noise.
The surface itself has no fan which is fine - it gets hot if I'm playing games but when I'm drawing or using it for notes it does not. That's what I want from a thinkpad. That and at least 16GB of RAM, TB3 port and ideally under 1.4KG.
I've tried a yoga 730 13 inch but the fans at the back made it all but impossible to use unless you held it specific ways. In addition, the fans would go off like crazy and the performance sucked with games compared tot he SP6
Lincoln Rodriguez
I'm leaning towards the p52 but CES is in janurary and I might just hold out to see whats the new product line might be. I also heard the 2020 lineup might have a new design
Cameron Hughes
I'm looking at thinkpad right now and was wondering if this was a good deal. Thinkpad t440 I7 4600u 12gig ram 256 ssd for $200.
Mason Hill
X230 for 230 euros / 260 usd >i7 3520M >8GB RAM >IPS display >180GB SSD Good deal?
I replaced my T440p trackpad, but Windows keeps reinstalling the driver even if I tell it not to. I don't have to reinstall, do I?
Jace Phillips
Anyone? I'd really like to know if I'm making a terrible mistake.
Jordan Evans
Me? Okay, I'm a horse so it doesn't really count.
Cameron Bennett
X301 is really slow and not suitable as a Daily. Get a ThinkPad 13 G1 if out really want 13", or Celestia Forbid the E3-- series.
Chase Clark
install gentoo
Isaiah Phillips
Why should I use it on my thinkpoor instead of LXDE?
Joshua Campbell
X240
Josiah Diaz
Hmm, that SU9600 does seem pretty slow. I was thinking that if the L7400 in my X60t can handle most of my everyday tasks pretty well, the CPU in an X301 would be sufficient too, especially with Linux and vaapi.
Well, if I can't get a cheap 13" then I'm going to start looking at X2** series.
Hey the 9600 isnt that terrible, what do you plan on doing with it? iirc the X301 has one of the best thinkpad keyboards too!
Hunter Jackson
With that you can buy a x230 Tablet mint with a 240gb ssd and have 30 bucks to spare for McDonald's, damn I love McDonald's.
Alexander James
why not a dekstop pc instead of the w520.
Elijah Powell
At that point I'd rather just get a t440p.
Adam Lewis
Which ThinkPad should I get, /tpg/? I'm looking for a laptop that's fun for fucking around with modding and distro hopping in the weekend, but can be used for programming/web browsing/giving presentations when not broken. I'm currently considering the t420 or the t430 but can't really decide (I'm also open to other suggestions). A decent processor, an abundant supply of parts and reliability are important.
Anyone ever got problems with their x230? Mine is basically useless right now, because for some reason, budging it causes a sudden loss of power, with the disk clacking and the speakers popping. I searched on google and found tons of forums posts about it with no answer... I changed the CPU paste and it worked again for a few months (about 2) and then did it again. I opened it, cleaned it, and worked only for a week or so. It seems moving parts around helps but I don't know the source of the issue.
In any case, it's weird to see the x230 still recommended ; am I just super unlucky?
Aaron Anderson
>heat and such And NO, I do NOT know what I'm talking about. Thank you very much!
x230 has copper pipes cooler vs x220 aluminum i got i5 it doesnt seem that hot even with stress test battery life is crap regardless (5 hours/9cell)
Carter Phillips
Well I wrote up in the last thread that it the Linux kernel does not work well with Raven Ridge CPU states and was trying to troubleshoot it to make it work and I failed. What do you think? I had the same problems with a Dell Latitude 5495. So buy one and just relive what I've lived through twice if you don't believe me.
Does the latest Linux kernel help at all? There's a lot of AMD-related kernel development happening right now.
Julian Gomez
>(5 hours/9cell) da fugg how old is your battery?
Michael Morgan
Nope. I've tried many kernels. The latest I tried was 4.18 and the padoka ppa for latest mesa drivers. It seems like its a crapshoot. Id use Windows but I value my privacy more than my cpu preference. I really wanted the Vega iGPU but oh well. I gave up Steam and mostly just play GOG games now anyways. Pretty familiar with Linux now and dont see myself switching back to Windows for personal use. Hopefully over time the amdgpu drivers and zen states with be stable. For now, Ive returned to using a nice Latitude 7490 with an i7-8650u. Its a pretty nice system and does nt crash on me.
Hi all, i open this post to ask about a problem that i have with my Thinkpad T480s and his touchpad working with every linux distro for desktop environment that I ever tried.
The thing it's a little bit difficult to explain, but the feeling of the touchpad it's a little bit weird sometimes. I tell sometimes because the mouse acceleration or sensivity it's not always the same as I feel. Sometimes it is very linear like W10, that is what i want but randomly it changes to a strange weird feeling of acceleration or sensivity that feels the coursor/touchpad very laggy or strange. When it turns bad, the small movements are terrible and impossible.
I cant understand what's happening here, I'm using libinput driver which is supossed the "standard" after synaptics driver. I tried with Arch(Antergos), Ubuntu, Fedora and all distros are the same, doesn't matters the DE Gnome or KDE or XFCE. I don't know if I'm missing some parameters to config in the driver but i can't understand this, if you could help me I would be very grateful. The rest of the touchpad works very well, I mean the clickpad buttons, the buttons on the top of the touchpad, right click, button simulator....
If it helps, I'm using this laptop. Lenovo T480s Intel i7-8550u 2560x1440p display 8GB RAM
Michael Thomas
Sounds like something is shorting.
Parker Adams
>doesnt seem that hot What temps do you actually reach under full CPU and GPU load?
