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Dominic Nguyen
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Nathan Miller
>TSMC
So that 3nm is actually 7?
Logan Morales
Hopefully by then, Intel is at 7nm Jesus fucking Christ
Isaac Roberts
>2022
Joshua Williams
isn't 3nm factory too small to produce anything
Blake Brown
The theoretical limit of silicone transistors is 5nm, so obviously it's actually larger. I think even at 7nm you'll see quantum fuckery, and I don't know if there's a solution to that either.
So 3nm is probably in reality over even 7nm.
Isaac Morgan
>silicone transistors
Wyatt Davis
>silicon titties
Carter Jones
kek
Dylan Parker
your dad produced you so no not too small
Cooper Nelson
based Chinese
Nathan Reed
Hopefully by then it's dead and bankrupt
Lucas Stewart
TSMC 7nm is ahead in density compared to intel's 10nm.
TSMC is following ASML's node definitions faithfully.
>talking out of your ass this much
What makes you faggots do this?
Carson Carter
>Taiwan
>Chinese
Kill yourself faggot. Never associate my people with chinks. Don't bother @ing me.
Juan Taylor
>What makes you faggots do this?
Anonymity.
ASML can an hero btw. I'm talking purely technical/theoretical.
Henry Diaz
You're talking purely bullshit.
Josiah Martin
have a (You) good sir
Oliver Jones
The Taiwanese are a small people, they will make it work
Jordan Torres
Explain why he's talking bullshit. Your post is as useless as his post.
Owen Butler
quints
Joshua Taylor
shhh
Jason Perry
Even at 3nm it will probably still be a double digit size in reality. When they actually go down to single digit nanometers, they'll already be naming it in picometers.
Jordan Bailey
Because many front end feature sizes are in fact approaching the etch resolution of these processes regardless of the fact that they aren't named for it.
Some user started posting a little info graph comparing the MMP and CPP of different process nodes, and blithering retards who have no idea what they are have been repeating numbers they don't understand ever since. A 40nm MMP does not mean that a 40nm feature is the smallest on chip, it is the exact opposite. This is a back end of line feature that influences area scaling.
Look up any Chipworks dissection of a recent chip.
You have no idea how process names are even determined.
Parker Bennett
So where can we learn this shit to an adequate level so we can be as insufferable as you?
Samuel White
IEDM, other industry presentations like SEMICON West, you could just read watered down semiwiki articles that aggregate all that information for plebs if you wanted to be lazy.
For intel's 10nm process, their trigates have a nominal width of 7nm at the top of their fins. Right there there is an etched trench where the fin is grown and it end up smaller than the node name. Wow. Jow Forums BTFO forever by intel who is trailing TSMC in total density. Imagine that?
Lucas Johnson
Intel is fini...
Gabriel Nguyen
>construction will begin in 2022
>begin
Camden Cruz
they are pricing in intel reaching 10nm in 2019
Charles Parker
Here, since I know you're all too retarded to function:
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semiwiki.com
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Have fun learning something.
Lincoln Edwards
Why did I even laugh at such a stupid joke fuck
Landon Phillips
>tfw intel will become irrelevant in your lifetime and the world will become a jewless paradise
Feels good man.
Brody James
Intel is another stockholder's darling, similiar to Nvidia before it got fucked. Watch the true meltdown happening once Zen2 is going to assrape them at full force. Those stupid shareholder fucks truely believe Intel delivers highly competitive 10nm chips in June 2019.
Gavin Jenkins
Michael Sullivan
No. IBM has successfully produced 1nm transistors.
Austin Howard
3 is 5, 7 is 10 (when comparing TSMC to Intel).
Parker Edwards
>chink in denial
Josiah Gutierrez
The goyim knows! Shut it down!!
Grayson Hall
Witnessed
Ryder Mitchell
tsmc 7nm is smaller than intels 10nm... so no its not equal
Samuel King
In which parameters is it small?
Robert Long
overall its around 15% smaller in total
Sebastian Sanchez
It isn't but you can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Charles Murphy
>isn't 3nm factory too small to produce anything
Hudson Watson
The ethnic groups are the same you false flagging shitposter. Taiwan even considers itself the 'real china' because their government is even called the RoC. No actual Taiwanese person gets mad when they get called ethnically Chinese.
Ryder Lewis
this is comparison before intels 10nm got 10% nerfed
Nathan Cooper
DELID DIS SIR
Ryder Diaz
>MTx/mm2 higher than everyone else
I wonder what he meant by this...
Nathan Harris
>MTx/mm2
thats before the 10nm was crippled
Hudson Lewis
It'll be late but the process is still superior to TSMC's.
Asher Nelson
Nope, the jews will just infiltrate TSMC if they haven't already.
Kayden Williams
>SRAM density lower than TSMC N7
>total logic cell density lower than TSMC N7
>TSMC N7+ improves on density even further giving it another 15% area scaling advantage
Intel's 10nm node is less dense. You can't get around this.
No. No its not.
Tyler Sanchez
>process is supposdly superior
>cant produce high clocked parts
>will use 14nm for the "high performance parts"
Ok :)
Luke Butler
>jews will just infiltrate TSMC
Xi will stop them
Michael Anderson
You don't know about the jewish influence in the Chinese government, do you?
Kayden Walker
"""1nm"""
Oliver Peterson
well played.
Jayden Ortiz
t. retard
Jaxson King
Robert Robinson
That was a good chuckle.
Landon Lewis
oh fuck, witnessed.
Jose Campbell
Emperor Xi does not yet rule the rebellious province
Isaiah Richardson
what am I looking at here? the broken image links?
Camden Hughes
You specifucally choose the date of amd being at highest point to make it look bad, aren't you?
Ryder Russell
>not yet
he never will.
Joshua Mitchell
TSMC's 7nm EXISTS. Intels 10nm is not, thats why it was revised to something like 12nm. i bet it's still slower than 14nm++++++++++
Jordan Walker
At 3nm quantum tunneling will render the chips dysfunctional at frequencies beyond 1ghz.
The yields could be problematic too.
Silicon simply does not behave well below 10nm.
Noah Butler
It's okay, they're calling it 3nm but really it's like 32nm
David Ross
I'd fuck her.
Lincoln Bell
Brayden Gutierrez
>2023
*yawn*
Angel Reyes
aggressiv timeline from TSMC but not for "us" consumers.
Luis Barnes
looks like a bunch of flies swarming
Adam Ward
bless you, haven't laughed at a post this much in a while
Michael Garcia
can we go under 1nm?
Julian Bailey
soon
Logan Barnes
Those are just names, not actual sizes.
IIRC "14nm" uses something like 50nm transistors.
Gabriel Turner
Only in countries that use metric.
If you use imperial you are fucked.
Grayson Gomez
Could it be that AMD were right all along by producing many cores that have no more than 1ghz in power?
Christopher Ortiz
for intel, yes
Thomas Jackson
only if you employee 100% chinese
Jack Rodriguez
came here to post this.
fucker.
Eli Hernandez
i want to work with asian qties ;_;
Carter Morgan
Nolan Ward
Not even close, my guy. Look up intel's IEDM presentations, Global Foundries presents there as well. TSMC has tech presentations of their own. Cadance has published material on various processes as well.
CPP and MMP are not front end features. The FEOL is not larger than the BEOL. Jesus.
Kayden Reyes
The fin pitch on GloFo/Samsungs 7nm process was either 30nm or 27nm based on what they shared back at IEDM 2017. That means the distance from the furthest edge of one fin to the start of the next, including spacing. The fins themselves are incredibly narrow. As already stated ITT, intel's 10nm process node produces 7nm wide fins.
This board is just too retarded to help.