DMCA is bullshit and so is capitalism

This. Get fucked tards.

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>implying jews aren't the main class who benefits from copyright
kek
how naive are you?

whats with all the posts on Jow Forums complaining about capitalism lately? did some eceleb make a youtube video on it?

Your rant is quite long, but I mostly agree. I don't see copyright going away any time soon, though - people won't even attend to more pressing issues like privacy. Here's to hoping there's progress.

>lately

What about movie actors

Reddit, too. That Jow ForumsLateStageCapitalism sub was at the top of Jow Forumsall last week. I blame Millenials.

and how do you judge the value of something exactly without seeing how much it sells? who is going to pay people to create things? the government? will they just pay anyone with an idea to create anything, no matter how shit it is?

But jews AREN'T the main class who benefits from copyright. Very rich jews are. Or, more generally, very rich owners of corporations -- though the overlap is the majority of either.
Take it from me, a middle-class person who is one-quarter israeli

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yes lately people have been saying durr capitalism bad all over the site for the past week

>for the past week

yes, that's what I said

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Your argument is dumb and gay. If you only paid people for reoccurring goods/services you'd crash any economy in less than a day, you fucking moron. Try growing a brain.

>jews are the only ones who make music, publish books, and write software
Go read Henry Ford's "The International Jew", you imbecile. Copyright isn't the problem. Copyright is a tool. Jews are the problem and they're beating you over the head with copyrights. Banning copyright is like banning hammers. The jew is just gonna pick up a screwdriver next, you mental midget.

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That's because you're stupid.

Since when do ancraps are against intellectual property? According to capitalist principles anything that qualifies as property property is to be enforced by means of le private police,

Henry Ford was a literal psychopath who is famous for destroying Appalachia. Even the examples capitalists try to give of "good capitalism" always look like a fucking cometary impact site.

no, you're stupid

Private police are literally just mercenaries. You can hire them to do anything. The law becomes totally irrelevant once you allow for private armies of any kind.

>what is asymmetric warfare
if there's a weapon that's more efficiently used by your enemy, you don't try to learn to use the weapon more efficiently than him or build a bigger weapon, you just take out the fucking weapon so you become the one with an advantage

>If you only paid people for reoccurring goods/services you'd crash any economy in less than a day, you fucking moron.
More like any economy you can think of.
It wouldn't crash an economy where not all value comes from transactions between people.
But for an economy like that to exist, people would have to forfeit the notion of right of conquest, and stop claiming land and resources they've done nothing to earn the right to just because they found them. People would have to be content to only take from nature what they personally need, and that way there would be enough left over to sustain an economy based on equal-value trading.

The first person to discover land has no more rightful claim to it than the person to discover it next, and if they fight over it, then whoever wins has no more rightful claim to it than whoever loses. Adoption of this notion is the only way such an economy could work.

Creating software cost money, its an investment, specially a fucking OS. There are also maintenance costs: Updates, Drivers keep up with new hardware, Lawyers, Marketing

You cannot compare creating something unique and being a big company with crafting things that more people could do. If you are a woodworker and craft a chair, of course you can calculate the materials cost, the hours of manual labor, taxes, multiply it by X and voilá.

When you create a unique service and get a lot of customers you turn into a big company. What you do after? develop other products. The main product will feed the company for invest and create more products or updates.

>Since when do ancraps are against intellectual property?
Literally part of ancap philosphy that intellectual property doesn't exist and only pretends to exist because of the will of the state.

a lot of ancaps only limit the concept of private property to land and physical goods, because if you make a copy of somebody else's shit the original doesn't disappear. it's artificial scarcity for which there's no place in an efficient market

>The main product will feed the company for invest and create more products or updates.
Which will then also be paid for, as if they weren't already paid for by the huge profit accumulated by charging people for software by the copy when creating copies costs you nothing.

Not exactly related, but copyleft is kind of an anti-thesis of copyright. Fighting fire with fire.

Nobody wants your fucking "security" updates. Get fucked, cancer maker.

Ford is one of the reasons why my family went from dirt poor to middle class. Stay mad, jew.

No, you take out your enemy. Weapons are tools. If some guy with a baseball bat breaks into my house I'm gonna shoot him, not the baseball bat.

>it wouldn't crash the economy that exists in my head!
Communism in a nutshell.

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>intellectual property doesn't exist and only pretends to exist because of the will of the state.
that's just literally how private property works,

Then you're the oppressor and must be destroyed.

>Communism in a nutshell.
And this is supposed to be a counterargument how exactly?
>inb4 communism has never worked
that's because it's never been tried

There is absolutely no reason anyone should own something forever for a purchase you only perform once.

Say you purchase software. You've paid some money, and you should use the software, I don't dispute this. But I hold you should only use the software once. Why should you use it every day? What payment are you doing for them with each passing day? You didn't repurchase the software from them. You're just giving continuously using, while they get nothing.

etc etc

Why aren't we shooting jews yet, then? I'm all for it, but realize only few want it to work out this way.

Something that can be easily copied infinite amount of times is not a tangible good that can be called private property. There would be nothing to stop file copying if the state was dismantled and intellectual property that forbids it wouldn't be possible in an ancap society.

Not him but why does everyone who wants to do something about it want to shoot jews just in general, and not just the jews who are the problem?
I'm not the enemy here, we're working toward the same end goal dumbass.

>No, you take out your enemy.
how the fuck are you gonna take out the jews when they have the money to hire guards in gated communities with the money from their government-protected activities? how about you starve their cash flow by not allowing the government to protect their commercial activities?

How can your heritage be one quarter imaginary?

Subtle too stupid to understand that rent-seeking the government for monopolization of ideas isn't capitalism in the slightest post. See intellectual property = shit. I'm an AnCap. We've never had true capitalism just as much as we've never had true socialism, but guess which way would probably work out better?

You should not be able to own anything that doesn't have scarcity and is intangible.

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because they're morons, they're just like black people complaining about whitey
the power elite is the problem, jews are just over-represented in it because they're the most intelligent race

You have to pay for things user, this isn't Somalia.

But seriously, you want a product, you pay market price for product.

Your shitty communism freeware shit is a failed economic model, failed multiple times, over and over and over.

Yep. As a blue collar worker with kids I sure am evil. I totally don't deserve to live to because I call out retarded bullshit that would destroy my nation and family if implemented.

Stay mad on the internet, you little pinko queer.

>my specific fantasy economy has never existed, therefore X economic system has never been tried
Uh huh.

We're heading there soon.

Truth is more powerful than any currency that ever existed.

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Because 'Jew' is shorthand for

'Anyone who uses financial gain, nepotism and family wealth to manipulate working class people'

Of which most of these people are Jews statistically. I would say kill the bankers and kill the CEOs, but they are all (with some exception) Jews.

you'll understand when you move out from mommy's basement

>implying
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Don't worry about the little pinko, he didn't have a father to teach him the value of a dollar so now he wants the world to take care if him because he can't do it himself.

The filthy degenerate is drawn to a Marxist society where they never have to face the manhood of choice and let the state coddle them from cradle to death. They choose the life of a slave.

My father was a jew, not only religiously, but half-ethnically -- whatever that actually means, I don't know.

I don't really believe trash about some races being more intelligent or whatever, and I also don't think you can really generalize races or religions the way you just did by saying they ALL complain about white people, but even if I did agree with you on either of those points, why should anyone be shot for being a moron? You seem to vastly undervalue human life. Not that that makes *you* the enemy all of a sudden or anything, I don't like this quality of yours but enemy of my enemy and all. I'll stand with you against the elite, but if you plan on gunning down innocents in the meantime, I won't stand for that.

Intellectual property is both intangible and has no scarcity. How can you possibly make a fucking ownership claim to such a thing?

Look at the old gaming industry.
It was HARD to create games, so some crazy companies invested time and money. After that, the hardware was an issue, so the games usually were sold as "licenses" running in Arcade's hardware. There was also "hardware support" involved in the service (maintenance). No matter the costs, a GOOD game will be played a lot, a bad game not so much, so how do you reward the good game? licensing. Everyone want to play good games not bad games, so the owner of the recreative place paid for good ones.

The owner of the recreative place paid for the game license and hardware service, so naturally his customers had to pay per use.

The owner of the place also had Pool tables, but a lot of people/companies can craft them, so there is no point in creating licenses, they don't require maintenance.

There are so few good jews that I'm perfectly fine with tossing the baby out with the bath water.

Communism is basically just "gibs me dat fo free", spoiled white homosexual edition.

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>Truth is more powerful than any currency that ever existed.
wishful thinking

>I would say kill the bankers and kill the CEOs, but they are all (with some exception) Jews.
Okay, fair enough, but that doesn't mean 'kill the Jews' means the same thing as 'kill the bankers and kill the CEOs'. After all, even if ALL the bankers and CEOs were Jews, it would still be the case that not all the Jews are bankers and CEOs, far from it. Why should the ones who aren't die? We unironically "dindu nuffin"

>I don't really believe trash about some races being more intelligent or whatever
It's just the statistical truth, there's nothing to 'believe' about it

I do agree to an extent that not all jews are bad. 'Jew' might only refer to "someone greedy". But at this point, what are people supposed to think? A lot of them died under both Stalin and Hitler, and a majority of those were dirt poor. So many escaped to America, a country Hitler respected because he believed the would purge the jews themselves. And now look what happened. They stand with Israel.

Our enemies do come from all parts of the globe. But you gotta start somewhere. Greed and how it is perceived today is disgusting. People defend data mining and the obnoxious advertising practices on the net, just because they make money and are not persecuted for it. So much fraud, laundering and other bullshit goes unpunished because people forgot about gulags. Society had time to be just.

>There are so few good jews that I'm perfectly fine with tossing the baby out with the bath water.
For what purpose?
Why bother when you could just as well only kill the bankers and CEOs?
I won't stand for killing innocents, no matter what the cause. I will still support the cause itself though.

Well, even if that's the case it doesn't matter because technically an anarcrap society is just like a normal dictatorship but instead of general the dictator has the tittle of landlord, landlord enforces whatever laws he wants inside his own property.

Anarcraps just want to privatize the state.

And I'm certain he was a good, pious man who took wonderful care of his family. The issue isn't the average Jew. It's not anyone ethnically, it's a portion of the elite that use their power to keep the working class, your father included, down.

Unfortunately Judaism, while a fascinating religion that I love to study, fosters an intense in culture that leads to activities against 'non-jews', the exclusionary group, that lead to a dislike of the inclusionary group.

This coupled with a group of elites with their best interest in mind, comprised of a majority Jews leads to anti-semitism

>Unfortunately Judaism, while a fascinating religion that I love to study, fosters an intense in culture that leads to activities against 'non-jews'
same with every other monotheistic religon

LULZ Henry Ford destroyed Appalachia? You mean he brought agrarian people out of literal dirt poverty to a state of low poverty?

HOW DARE HE HELP BRING ECONOMIC SUCCESS TO THE POOREST OF PEOPLE ONLY TO LEAVE THEM BETTER OFF BUT NOT MILLIONAIRES!

Let's not beat around the bush, lefty loony. You want equity, which is a murderous fucking ideology. You should be put in a concentration camp to starve to death. That's the equity you'll bring the rest of us. Go live it yourself and prove otherwise.

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go ask

>It's just the statistical truth,
It isn't though. When you account for non-genetic factors, the variation between the races is much less than the variation within them

There will be others that replace them. For sure. Unless you shape a society that cock-blocks them, history will repeat itself. But as you can see from this thread, any departure from today's first world socio-economic systems is frowned upon, because everything else is apparently 'I want free stuff'.

It's the inclusionary group thing, it isn't pretty, it isn't right or moral, but it is human nature.

I dislike Jews for reasons pertaining to scripture, mostly talmudic passages pertaining to 'blood libel' (Much more common and real then they want you to believe) but I would never extend this to anyone I didn't know personally. I would never target someone because of their religion.

Yes, but not to the intensity that Judaism does. Judaism literally teaches that non-jews are literally cattle. Goyim is an early Hebrew word for a number of cattle. And the Babylonian Talmud teaches that one cannot sin against a beast. Goyim are not human, so cheating a Goyim is not a sin.

>the variation between the races is much less than the variation within them
that doesn't change the fact that some races are more intelligent than others on average

Nigger wut? If that was true you wouldn't need a same-race donor for a new organ.

> DMCA is bullshit
Yes.
> So is capitalism
Get fucked stupid commie

>And I'm certain he was a good, pious man who took wonderful care of his family.
heh.
I'm laughing to myself at how wrong you are. Not that you could've known any better
>The issue isn't the average Jew. It's not anyone ethnically, it's a portion of the elite that use their power to keep the working class, your father included, down.
Agreed
>Unfortunately Judaism, while a fascinating religion that I love to study, fosters an intense in culture that leads to activities against 'non-jews', the exclusionary group, that lead to a dislike of the inclusionary group.
Wait wait wait, Judaism? Wait, are we specifically talking about religion?
Because that would change a lot.
I don't actually know anything about judaism lol, i'm only *ethnically* a quarter jewish
>This coupled with a group of elites with their best interest in mind, comprised of a majority Jews leads to anti-semitism
That's understandable but (if we're talking about ethnic jews) it's a statistical fallacy.
Say we have group A and group B. In this case, group A is jews, group B is the elite. Say everyone in group B has quality C -- in this case, odious.
Now, suppose group B is a majority of group A. Then it's statistically valid to guess that someone in group A has quality C.
But this is not the situation we're faced with. It is NOT the case that the elite comprise the majority of jews. It's the other way around -- jews comprise the majority of the elite. As for what portion of jews comprise that majority, or stand with them, we CANNOT say it's necessarily a majority of jews -- and, therefore, it is NOT a valid statistical inference to conclude that it's likely that any given person in group A has quality C.
If we're talking about religious jews, that changes matters. If there's anything in the book that says "thou must cheat white people out of all their money" then we can be certain the entirety of A is at least in *support* of B. but again that's only if we're talking about religious jews

Left-leaning people tend to be fucking economically illiterate. It's embarrassing. Their arguments always root back to greed, resentment, and ignorance of history and economics. They're rabid ideologues that want to bring everyone down rather than see people succeed and bring others up with them. When other succeed, we all start to succeed in the long run. These socioeconomic leftists are disgusting and should be lambasted and ridiculed for their ideas.

Marxian economics are making a minor comeback in the West, but only because the neo-Marxist ideological idiots are barking all over the dying traditional media outlets. The vast, VAST majority of people around the world want nothing to do with Marxist class and equity theories.

Were 100 million deaths of the 20th century not enough for you? How many more until we get it right?

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I'm not arguing the last point, I don't think it's a majority, I think a majority of elites are Jews, not a majority of Jews are elites. I can see that I poorly worded myself and I apologize.

I've studied alot of the Talmud, as well as Kabbalaism and other sects of Jewish thought. I find the religion to be probably the most complex and fascinating bit of human culture I've ever studied, but sections of it, certain schools of thought, are abhorrent.

Because it's never just "a few bankers". These problems facing America and Europe today all stem from having jews. It's jews in Hollywood, jews in the Federal Reserve, jews in the media, and so on and so forth.

The problem is that jews are nepotistic, so all the power and wealth the accumulate stays within this tiny 2% of the population that's seemingly always free from criticism. I'm not too happy about a small international clique ruling over my nation and society. I'm not too happy about my tax dollars supporting some welfare nigger squatting on Palestinian land. I'm not too happy about there being dual citizens loyal to Israel serving in the US government. And I'm really not happy that victims of natural disasters have to promise not to boycott Israel to receive aid. But what really takes the cake is the fact that this 2% of the population has the balls to flood my nation with third worlders in an effort to replace us (which is genocide as defined by the UN) and push all sorts of degenerate filth in the media while still expecting our young men to fight their wars, because they're too weak to handle Arabs with sticks and rocks.

Fuck Jews.
Fuck Israel.

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>Because it's never just "a few bankers". These problems facing America and Europe today all stem from having jews.
countries without jews also have problems

People are waking up.

>In a perfect world, all transactions should be equal-value transactions.
That's your fundamental mistake. If all transaction were equal-value, there'd be zero reason to do them. Transactions happen because value is subjective and different between people, and therefore both parties exchange something they value less for something they value more.
The reason I buy milk from the store for ¤2 is not because the milk is worth exactly ¤2, but because the milk is worth more to me than my ¤2, while my ¤2 is worth more to the store than the milk.

to what? communism?
you're all fucking retards

Countries without jews don't have jew related problems though, now do they? North Korea might be poor but only North Koreans are allowed the live there. No one is suggesting that North Korea needs unlimited African 67IQ savages to keep their economy afloat.

In fact, North Koreans hate jews and their ideas so much that they'd rather scrape by on corn grown with human shit than open up their nation to (((Western))) influences. Now they're stockpiling WMDs because the jews running shit won't leave them the fuck alone. All they want to do is sell some coal to China and this is somehow a great crime against humanity.

To class consciousness.

most of the jews live in either the USA or Israel
stop projecting your own problems onto other people
I never even knew what a jew was until my 20s and my country is the same shit as every other western country (except the USA, whose problems stem for the general retardation of the public more than anything else)

Jesus Christ can any convo on this site not devolve into blaming the Jews? I don't give a fuck about the Jews, but did you ever stop to fucking think that rich people want to get richer, and their interests align? As though it's some magic fucking conspiracy that a group, who has higher average IQs than most, are rich and trying to get richer?

What about the uber wealthy Koreans? Chinese? etc.

>What about the uber wealthy Koreans? Chinese? etc.
It's common knowledge that Jews are shapeshifters and can assume other forms

Not in the same way. While Judaism is often compared to Christianity and Islam, you can't "really" convert to it. I mean, yes, you can say that you did, and I'm sure Jews will encourage that illusion, but Judaism is fundamentally an ethnic religion. If you aren't a descendant of Abraham, you aren't covered by the covenant, plain and simple. You may or may not argue that Christians discriminate against non-Christians, but literally anyone can (and is encouraged to) become Christian. Technically anyone could (and is encourage to) become a Muslim, but I don't really think anyone who isn't an Arab would really want to.

Did you really expect a response?

Go look at the board of the Federal Reserve. Find out how many are jews and get back to me. I don't know where you live exactly, but I can assure you, the US dollar is accepted there.

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These anti-capitalist posters surely are underage b&

The US dollar is accepted nearly anywhere, what's your fucking point
saying the Jews are responsible for every problem in the world is just typical American retards thinking the USA is the only place in the world that matters, that's only half true

>Henry Ford was a literal psychopath who is famous for destroying Appalachia. Even the examples capitalists try to give of "good capitalism" always look like a fucking cometary impact site.
>

the entire modern world is good capitalism and the only reason we aren't all living in shitholes like Venezuela, North Korea, Maoist China, or the Soviet gulags etc.

>saying the Jews are responsible for every problem in the world is just typical American retards thinking the USA is the only place in the world that matters, that's only half true

China has already taken over the world everyone in the west is just too fucking stupid to realize it

chances at a balanced, non-hegemonic China ended with lefty dumbasses and righty dumbasses shooting down the TPP

Take a look at who prints those dollars and controls the value of them. The Federal Reserve was privatized in the early 20th century. The US government doesn't control the dollar.

Wrong. Various companies, especially the big tech faggots, have gone out of their way to deplatform people who say things they don't like. These companies lose money when they do this. The people running them are ideologically motivated and use that to justify the financial losses. So no, the world isn't running on "good capitalism". Economics matter fuckall in the grand scheme of things. Money is a tool and nothing more.

Most of China is a third world shithole. I've been there twice and I saw a river catch on fire because there was a bunch of oil or something in it. The Chinese don't know their assholes from a hole in the ground, and any little bit of success they're seeing is entirely dependent on their continued access to Western markets. China has no choice but to bend to the US dollar.

They are successful because the jews allow it. Not because the Chinese are in charge of anything

I don't care about your federal reserve you dumb fucking american

You clearly don't understand anything about the global economy

Chin-chongs are stupid. They can't design anything. They only can copy western and japanese designs.
Also, they pollute, they literally caused plastic chaos in ocean
Unironically, they should be nuked.