/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Libreboot-compatible models:
>T60 (check lcd), X60(s/t); X200(s/t. -s requires soldering), T400(s)/500; W500.

Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, both Coreboot-compatible (Ivy Bridge CPU support on T420); Quad Core Compatible, Old keyboard swap on *30 series
>T520/530; W520/530 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3.0
>T440s - best price/performance ultra portable
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement)

Upgraded models:
>X210 - X200/X201, i5 8250u quadcore
>X62 - X61, i5 5250u
>T70 - T60, i7 7700 hq
IPS displays, USB 3.0, m.2 x4, mini dp, no
forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=117


Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint™, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support

>Buyers guide (newly updated):
dankpads.com/tpg/
>A plaintext map of ThinkPad history (WIP; please contribute):
github.com/Monkeyfume/thinkpad-tech-tree
>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org

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gizmodo.com/my-adventure-with-an-11-year-old-thinkpad-1820617879
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lolis

cunny

Hitler did nothing wrong.

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Can anyone with a T400s or T410s comment on the machine? Do you like it? How's the build and screen quality?

>tfw fumos probably cost more than the laptops

is that T61 and T420?

Tenko fumo is more expensive than most thinkpad listings on ebay. Let that sink in.
T500 and W530
T61 and T410 are in another room

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I already know that weebs are mentally deficient, no need to remind me.

Autism knows no bounds.

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how are the stax?

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He He. first post best post, am i right guys?

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SR-007 Mk1 is gr8, read a review here soundbsessive.com/stax-sr-007-omega-ii-a-review-darth-nut-2003/

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What's everyone's favourite 16:10 or 4:3 ThinkPad?
Is the T410, 410s, 510, any good?

thinkpads FUCK YEAR

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That picture is $30 1400x1050 T60, $600 1920x1200 W701ds, $30 1680x1050 T61

I recommend 15" thinkpads over 14" W530/T530 with **20 keyboard is also good.

Honestly, anything under $40 is good.

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To clarify, under $40 for core 2 duo = good
Under $70 for core i3-7 = good

The T410 got me through college when my HP died, and one of my jobs that demanded java/eclipse, sql, angular/node, and spring framework. It has the i7-640M, 8GB of RAM, and the 512 MB Nvidia GPU. I recommend it for being a tough book that got shit done, except vidya. It was initially locked by a supervisor password, but I shorted the eeprom and cleared it. Right now I'm going to turn it into a file server (maybe ftp) and store back up stuff from my other computers onto it, so I don't have to keep unnecessary data elsewhere.

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I wish I had as poor impulse control as you

My qt X61 Tablet of course

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I need more stickers.

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>I wish I had as poor impulse control as you
not him but let me show you impulse control

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damn dude, how much?

Will people think less of me if my Thinkpad has neither a neckbeard Gentoo/Arch/etc distro installed nor any anime related backgrounds?

I would only think less of you if you had a macbook

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th-thanks

no, running win 10 ltsb with a normal wallpaper here and giving 0 fucks

I don't remember, think it was $120 or so some years ago. Still in great condition with the wacom, centrino duo and win xp stickers on the palmrest though.
Also an Illya decal because Illya a qt

>Illya decal
got pics?

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Hey /tpg/ I've got an issue with my X220
I've had it about a year now, the best laptop I've ever purchased. A while ago it took a nasty fall and banged up the battery compartment and now the locks used for keeping the battery in place are fucked and won't keep the damn thing in place. Are their any ways I could fix it without buying a whole new part or replacement "chassis"?

God I love that fuckin' image, thanks for postin'

help me choose? My current laptop is 8 years old and it's HDD space is about 750GB with ~400GB occupied. So I'm leaning towards either the 750GB one or the 1TB one.

I honestly don't know what's taking up all the space. I don't game much anymore. (used to play LoL, steam and some mmo on it years ago but all uninstalled now) I don't have any specialised softwares either. The biggest software installed is probably microsoft office 2013. Have some movies and tv shows on it + music.

Currency is in AUD

Also I don't see it in the description but all the laptops have inbuild wifi right?

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x240

DESU!

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so with x240 it only has 250GB. what if one day my current one fails and i need everything transferred? what do?

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kys for being a frognigger

Never EVER buy HP.

Everything they produce is utter shit.

Opinions on XPS 15 (9575) as a video editing station (mainly Sony Vegas)/ other recommendations in sub 2k USD range?

x240. way better put together than the HP or the E series. Maintenance is a snap. The only thing against it is if you want a larger panel size. Personally, I have never had a problem with working on a 12 inch display but others might.

Where can I find the old (IBM-era) ThinkPad TrackPoint Classic Dome cover? For a reasonable price?

imo you're gonna have to replace the bottom chassis. It'll be annoying but i can't think of any other way to fix it. Shouldn't take more than a couple hours if it's your first time breaking the thing down.

>T420 running ESXi until my homelab is finished
The i5 held 4 VM's surprisingly well, better than I expected, even with a running DC and a couple clients online. Up until I tried setting up an Exchange 2013 server at least, even with the full 8Gb of ram almost entirely dedicated to it, the thing kept eating ram by the bucketloads and demanded more.

it sounds like you're running windows.
If you're not sure what's eating up your disk space you can try running a windows program like spacesniffer, which will give you a visual of where your storage is going.

>T420 running ESXi
Now I'm seriously considering doing that with my T440p because fucking nobody wants to buy it.

soft rim > *

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So is there a way to upgrade the harddisk space on the x240 to a 500SSD or even a 1TB HDD?

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Go for it, perfect for learning the Sysadmin trade. 2 tips though:
>Newer versions (5.5 and up IIRC) have less supported network adapters out of the box, officially it only supports Intel and Broadcom controllers, and will refuse to install if you don't have one. If you have a different controller (Realtek, etc), you have to either inject older drivers in the iso, or get a separate adapter. The homelab I'm building is now on hold because of that (Realtek controller), have a quad Gigabit Intel pcie card in transit).
>Also, it will only install if you have 4Gb or more of ram. Again, either get more, or modify the iso to allow less

It's fine, the stock and the docking station NICs are Incel.
Also it has 8GB RAM, SSD, i7 4800mq and the FHD screen.

You are good to go then, at least for low-demand systems. You'll soon realize you can never have too much ram or IO speed.

Thoughts on the x1 carbon 6th gen? Wanted to buy a good laptop for the first time in my life.

bretty gud with all the bios fixes now, the obvious downside is that everything but ssd is soldered but if that's not a concern go ahead

Got my old laptop to replace for a new one. I want some 15" laptop. Which Thinkpad series is the must go ?

Yeah. One nice thing about X and T series thinkpads is that you can swap out almost anything yourself if you have a screwdriver. You can look up the owners manual, or if you don't want to do that there's probably a process video on youtube. If you go with an HDD be sure you're buying one that fits laptops, not the desktop sized clunkers.

illyapad

T series are lenovo's 14 to 15inch line. If you are okay with slightly older hardware there's also the W series (w530, w520, etc).

how im keping my thinkpad cool as it compiles chromium

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Thanks, and what about L series ?

Better than E garbage, but they're not as well constructed and considered closer to your typical consumer laptop.
If I were on a budget, I would rather get a slightly older T series instead of an L, because the software I typically run isn't very intensive on system resources anyways. If you're just going to be surfing and programming, for example, a T420 or 30 would be more than sufficient.

Yeah it's a bit of a shame but I don't really think it's going to be a problem, if the SSD would have been soldered then that would have been a deal breaker.
I'm already looking for an 8th gen i7 with 16gigs of ram, and I'm pretty sure that's going to be enough for a long ass time.

gonna learn arch on my dinkpad for that sick nerd cred

Should I upgrade my t430 cpu with the i7 3632QM 35W or the i7-3840QM 45w

I'm tempted for the second one but it's almost double the price, would the gain be worth it?

have fun user, it's a good time

I got it running in a VM and it seemed way easier than everyone made it out to be. Seems like as long as you're willing to read and do some research, you can get it set up and running just fine and always tweak things post install if need be.

people who can't are legitimate brainlets.

Redpill me on i7-3720QM W530

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I'm sick of seeing cool ThinkPads with CloverOS and/or anime figures/stickers on them/next to them.
Stop being gay.

Refurbished T440s with 8 GB RAM, 250 GB SSD, i5-4300U, 1080p IPS screen and 1 year warranty for $450. Yay or nay?

Nay. On just a surface search I'm finding 1080p ones with the i7 even for 350-400€

With warranty? If so, link pls

>X220 Free I wouldn't pay money for one of these
dude what? people praise it like a god. And some people sell it like for 250€ to 350€ when it should cost 135€.

checked

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My experience with lenovo:

Fantastic laptops.
Preinstalled windows self-destructs and uses all your resources so definitely install your own.
Linux is well-supported (except for fingerprint reader).
Docking stations are a scam. Make sure to get the expensive one which can deliver enough power to charge your battery while the laptop is on. The delivered connector is super short and needs to go in the back of the docking station. If you think docking means the end to fiddling with cables, you are dead wrong. And better install 15 drivers and/or deactivate thunderbolt security in BIOS/UEFI, or almost nothing will work out of the box.

sys-auth/fingerprint-gui

Anyone have any luck with Ubuntu 18.10 fingerprint support?
it lets me add mine on my x230 but it doesnt come up for login

So I upgraded my T520 from an i7-2640M to an i7-2720QM.

I used to get ~280CB with it and now I get ~490, which is a great improvement and it feels a lot snappier in general use.

However, what I've noticed is that before, while benchmarking, the CPU clock always stayed at 3.3-3.5GHz, its max turbo clocks. Now while benchmarking they top out at 3GHz (max all-core turbo) then gradually decrease until dropping to 2.6GHz.

Temperatures aren't a problem, they actually dropped from 80-85°C to 75-80°C load despite 10W more TDP. However I am running a 65W adapter. Is this what could be holding me back?

Also, if I want a beefier cooler I also essentially need a new motheboard, so which one would be the best one? I suppose W520 Quadro.

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unironically the best shooter of all time

Yes that 65W is definitely holding you back, you're going to need a higher wattage one.

Does anyone have any photos of W700/W700ds (or W701/ds) attached to the Mini Dock? Curious to see how much more bulky these fuckers can get, and searching on Google only gets me pictures of the dock itself with no Thinkpad attached.

T500 near me in great condition, is rocking a T9400 and wondering if I should splurge and libreboot it for around 60-70$

How can I get a think pad that doesn't spy on me

should I get the x1 carbon or the t480s Jow Forums?

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which thinkpad is best for some digital drawing (i.e. screen with pen input) was looking at an x220T

isn't the thinkpads unhygienic

alright i need your help Jow Forums

I need a thinkpad that can photoshop/edit video, is lightweight/portable, can play some games and is easy to lay in bed with and watch movies and impress a girl?

I'm going to be replacing my desktop and i want it to replace these specs.

Would the w520 suffice or is there something better, like something from the t series?

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Buy a w520 and beat that dumb 3dpd roastie to death

never trust thots

It's been a year since I posted this
>ignorant tech journalist misunderstands thinkpad, still makes me laugh
gizmodo.com/my-adventure-with-an-11-year-old-thinkpad-1820617879

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A W520 won't impress a girl. and its fucking heavy and big too.

i want to fug cirno

I just bought a new japanese keyboard from china and it wasn't new as described and one of the keys pops off when I press on the corner. It took months to arrive and it would take forever to work with the seller. The key just looks like it is missing a latch. Is there a way to get a replacement key for a japanese keyboard or somehow get the key to stay on?

How can you even play that properly? Don't Thinkpads have like two key rollover?

What would you chose between a x250 with an i5-5300U and a x260 with an i3-6100U? The first one also comes with a ssd and the other with a spinner, but I already have a spare ssd. I found both at the same price and the other specs are pretty much the same.

Ordered my first thinkpad refurbished T440 for 400 bucks with 480gb SSD and 16gb RAM.

Im going to install qubeos on it. Anyone using it on a tpad?

T440s is the answer. Always.

t480s it is