Microsoft shills will defend this

>microsoft provides this free to licensed customers
>so i can make copies of it and "sell" it to businesses

>it's okay to be unjust to people I don't like
That's not fair or impartial.

Yeah, they really shouldn't have made it sound like he's in trouble for recycling.

It's a grey area for copyright law even. Technically Microsoft sells licenses, not discs. Much of their software, including OS images, is freely available for download from their own site as the article states.

That said, I wouldn't doubt they have a clause somewhere in their EULA that prohibits 3rd party distribution of the software, and not the license, unless you are an "authorized partner" or something like that. Hence many refurbishers list themselves as "Microsoft authorized."

Still bullshit though.

wew lad

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>It's a grey area for copyright law even. Technically Microsoft sells licenses, not discs. Much of their software, including OS images, is freely available for download from their own site as the article states.
This isn't pedantically/legally true.
It's free to download and use for licensees.
It's not okay to resell this.
I can't fault MS for not wanting people to sell illegitimate Windows installers for the obvious reason that they could be tampered with (malware).

>It's a grey area for copyright law even.

If the discs are based on the same .iso freely available for download from Microsoft's own website, I can't possibly see how that could be contorted into copyright infringement.

OK, so they're really nailing him for infringing on their trademark, not the software. That makes sense.

He deserves it.

why didn't he install gentoo?

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This is part of the reason I will never again willingly use Microsoft products.

>try to keep electronics out of the landfill to save the earth
>end up in prison
this is just fucking fantastic

Cases like this are important for free software because it shows that license agreements actually mean something in court.

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>not posting the archive link
shill thread

stopped using windows after they pushed their spyware to 8.1

Isn't capitalism great?

good, that's what you get for promoting non-free software. I wish this happened to everyone who uses windows on """their""" personal computer, because MS wouldn't even lose any money since it all comes from enterprise sales anyway.

Microsoft owns the copyright, which makes it copyright infringement.

I used to game pretty heavily. Not so much anymore. And even so, Linux has like 90% of the games I play working well enough anyway. Just wish Blizzard would release a Linux WoW client before they launch classic. I'll still play it with Dxvk, just hate the frame rate hit I got last time I tried.

Should have installed a libre os

You're right, and I guess $50K/15 months for that is pretty consistent with what the redditard who topped himself got too.

>INTENTIONALLY make and distribute counterfeit software to increase sales of bundled hardware
>get arrested for it
WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

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See
There are emails between him and his supplier discussing print issues on the labels like spelling errors and font selection that they had gotten wrong. He was literally knocking off the official disks down to the printed pixel

In EU, he would sue microsoft and win
He totally deserved it for doing it in burgerland

When did Jow Forums become pro-IP and copyrights?

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Jow Forums has always been pro-hating-on-moron-OPs

Being anti-IP and copyright would undermine free software.

The guy knew full well what he was doing was illegal...

>people are trying to buy the free software that's on it. Not the product itself.
>people buy laptops just to get windows itself, not because of the hardware
Imagine being this much of a bootlicker.

>be retarded
>think you have a point
Imagine being this retarded.

Infringing the trademark of a multi billion dollar US conglomerate while living in the US was absolutely asking for it. Even if it's a shitty system, that doesn't excuse being a retard.

Don't assume that I'm pro copyright just because I understand the law.

It contains license activation, either by hack or bios bootloop so it probably isn't just a disc

>projecting
>being so much of a shameless kike as to have the audacity to unironically think this'll completely btfo everyone
Go kys

Wow, it's THIS thread again

There was no liability due to no losses caused to the copyright-holder though. His lawyers must've totally screwed up his defense.

No, I'm not projecting.
I stated something that is a legitimate fact. You made up some bullshit about peoples' intentions.
Your stupid argument is retarded and makes no legal sense at all. What Microsoft did was fine and understandable because they are upholding the value of license agreements, something all software developers benefit from (except those who literally release software under no license at all).

I don't care.

>run a multi-million dollar business
>WAHHHH i should be able to ignore business laws
Fuck off moron.

There is, though.
As stated, the software is free for license holders but companies have to pay for it.
He was "selling" it to companies. A clear violation of copyright (by making the copies and providing them under cost) and the license agreement.
His lawyers didn't screw up his defense. He had no fucking defense.

>Lundgren made 28,000 of the discs and shipped them to a broker, who planned to sell them to computer refurbishing shops for about 25 cents each
>Microsoft’s lawyers valued the discs at $25 each and said they represent $700,000 in potential sales.
Those install DVDs are worth 100x what you sold them for because I said so, goyim! Oy vey!

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Basically. Prices for most things are pretty much arbitrary, and that's fine.

>be an Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher
>get the sales and marketing boost from being an MAR
>tries to jew his way out of paying the fees associated with being an MAR

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Tell that to Standard Oil. Imagine if food companies did shit like what Microsoft is pulling, except it was bread companies that colluded to make every fucking loaf and pack of rolls $50 each, and then abuse some local baker with the court system for selling the same type of bread for less.

Fuck Microsoft and fuck anyone supporting them. Also fuck lawyers. I've never met a good or honest lawyer and if it was up to me I'd have them all shot.

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Open source software doesnt have this issue

So you are indeed a retarded bootlicker. Thanks for confirming this very apparent fact.
You have zero idea about how devs are paid. I hope you and your entire family and extended family lose everything to the kikes; in completely legal manner, ofc.

No liability is a valid defense for criminal copyright infringement.
t. law student
Me neither, I'm not the one getting fucked. Just saying if he had the right lawyers he could've gotten away with it.
Where's the evidence that it was truly a "violation of copyright" and not just a misuse of copyright? Misuse of copyright is a valid defense too, you know. And this is criminal court we're talking about, they're the ones who have to prove he's guilty, he doesn't have to prove he's innocent.
>b-but he was selling it
At a symbolic rate.
>b-but he made perfect copies, that indicates intent
Yeah. Intent to recycle.

>our rights are slowly being eroded
>"I don't care"
Nice.

>make counterfiets of proprietary software
>sell counterfiets
>b-b-b-ut is should be able to ignore laws!!!!111 REEE!!!!!

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In case you're being serious, him getting a free pass would be a violation of copyright. Not sure why you're trying to spin this around.

This. The evidence is all circumstantial. The only reason he lost is because Microsoft's lawyers were probably expensive as shit and using some dirty tactics, plus Florida courts tend to side with corporations.

>combinations of 1's and 0's can be property

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He should be in prison for that hat alone

>it's the law! the law is always right!
>be a good american and obey the law, user!

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Why not?

Unjust laws created for the benefit of massive corporations imposed by biased legislators who are in said big corporations' pockets SHOULD be challenged. Have some critical thinking, geez!

If you have a problem with it take it up with your lawmakers, not me.
The fact of the matter is that this was already decided to be the case, there is no "erosion" happening here.
This is old and well know, the person violated this knowingly.

Whether we agree with this ruling or not, is irrelevant. By the law, it was fair.

Yeah, collusion to jack up prices is definitely a problem. But if the market is broad enough there'll always be someone who'll undercut and steal the profits to keep them in check.
However, just look at any other media industry. Music all pretty much has a set price well above the cost of the disc or data, movies too, any software, and so on. How about clothes? Furniture? Books?
Everything is arbitrarily priced. Microsoft sells that software to companies for $25 a copy, that's their arbitrary price for it, and he tried to undercut it with copies their own product.

Because the natural market price of software is zero, because once it exists it's trivial and effectively free to duplicate it endlessly. The same is true of other information -- "intellectual property" is a contradiction in terms. Something has to be economically scarce to be property.

You fucked up if you're trying to use that image as a detracting example here.

Oh, I see you have no idea what we are talking about.

See and and .

>Where's the evidence that it was truly a "violation of copyright" and not just a misuse of copyright?
The emails about the printing quality on the discs that he was trying to make as near perfect replicas of official discs provided by an OEM as possible.

How about no?
This isn't worth discussing at all.
This man is nobody, this case isn't exemplary, and neither are you.

Your personal data can't be property then, and neither can food.

>laws are unjust!
>i shouldn't go to prison for breaking them!

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Circumstantial at best. Does not show intent. Misuse of copyright still applies.

I'm surprised you're even alive with this level of archaic thinking. Where you born in the 1800s?
Software is nothing like traditional products and has its own, separate implications.

As someone else already pointed out, just like foods and information

>the bootlicker who enjoys living in a corporate police state is also a weeb
Big surprise there.

>i should be able to break any law i don't like
>stick it to the man!!111
>down with the system!!1111
>we r leejun xDDD

This isn't an unjust law.
These laws protect every copyright and licenser.

This is like complaining about getting imprisoned for stealing bread to give to some homeless person. Sure, giving food to someone who can't afford it themselves is good, but you're still stealing to do it.

Intentions are one thing.

>Circumstantial at best.
No. That is not circumstantial evidence.

Reminder that at one point in time you would've been hung for jacking it to animu, dumbass. Enjoy the taste of boot.

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Literally just recouping the cost of production, get the fuck out Pajeet.

Nah, you would be hanged for being the moron that goes around jacking it in public in defiance of the law. The rest of us sane people would get the law changed and bukakke your retarded corpse.

>tried to outjew the jews
>get outjewed
Install Gentoo

Guess what, the laws reformed.
Maybe if you hustled as hard as you hate, we wouldn't have copyright law.
But the reality of the matter is that you'd rather complain on the internet than to government.

Not that anyone would back your inane dribble anyway, but at least go through the process if you think it's that important.
You're probably a coward.

>this is like stealing bread
How?
When you steal bread, you directly subtract from one. When you "violate" copyrights, you don't - you're just making a copy. The "potential lost sales" are purely hypothetical. You'd lose sales if I opened a competing store across the street too, is that stealing as well?

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The same laws would have you hang beside the masturbator for being a homo, homo.

But my persecution complex!

The difference between Windows and books, movies, and music is that the size of the entities responsible for their creation. Microsoft should not have the same rights or protections as some guy making music in his basement, or as some author writing his own book.

Laws exist so that the average man gets a fair shake out of life, and not so that some jew can shake all the spare change out of his pockets. Laws that fuck over the working class should not only be disregarded entirely, but met with outrage and violence. There is only one solution to tyranny, that's public executions. Not even a hundred years ago in this country we used to hang thieves and swindlers. I would love to see this tradition brought back and used to show the greedy their places. Traitors deserve to hang.

The garbage we have now isn't a free market and it's hardly even capitalism. It's a bunch of jews stuffing their pockets with the legacy of my ancestors who helped found this nation. This is what America was founded on: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_capitalism

The fact that a bunch of kike lawyers imprisoned a man for selling CDs with a certain combination of ones and zeros on them is an affront to my culture and morals. I want to see these fuckers killed for this.

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>encounter law you don't like
>blatantly violate it anyway
>don't even attempt to change it
>get punished by existing system

This is why anarchists are a laughingstock to every other form of government. They are self-defeating loons.

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That doesn't matter.
It literally would have been better if he had just given it to them for nothing.

I posted a literal-who website specifically to avoid being called a shill, guess that wasn't enough.

>How?
It's against the law.

You don't know what I do IRL besides complaining on Jow Forums. This is just a desperate strawman and a failed attempt at trying to imply my ideas shouldn't be spread online because I should instead be complaining directly to government and instead only your ideas should have exposure online.
You basically just outed yourself as an authoritarian - no surprise there, we basically already knew that from your defense of corporations and blindly following laws.

>food analogies
The second you start using analogies when discussing laws is the second you get disregarded.
The subject isn't bread, it's software.

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>The difference between Windows and books, movies, and music is that the size of the entities responsible for their creation. Microsoft should not have the same rights or protections as some guy making music in his basement, or as some author writing his own book.
This is some top level bullshit that doesn't reflect reality in any way.

Good job my froggy friend.

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Out of arguments so soon? Laaameeee