Apple's interest in music as well as audio is really only surface level isn't it?

Apple's interest in music as well as audio is really only surface level isn't it?

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They stopped making iPods right? I'd say so.

And they also bought Beats.

>beats ipods
>expensive shit


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>free shit

HomePods rival Sonos in consumer-range speaker quality, and make for a great home stereo system

AirPods were the first true wireless headphones and arguably still the ones to beat

AirPlay 2 works well and is easy to use

Apple Music could benefit from some incremental improvements (which will come eventually) and is probably too focused on pop and rap music but it's still a solid service

I don't see a really big problem

>HomePods rival Sonos in consumer-range speaker quality, and make for a great home stereo system
I've spent quite a bit of time with both, and I'd say they are fine for background music but if you actually want to sit down and listen to an album, or have some kind of soundstage, they don't do the job. They are great for music while having a dinner party or friends over, or while cleaning or fixing something. It's way better than the old days of trying to run speaker wire to an equipment room with a zone amplifier, but they don't replace a great home stereo system.

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>AirPods were the first true wireless headphones and arguably still the ones to beat

Yeah but they still sound like shit, and anybody that knew about the bluetooth spec could have told you they would before they made them

Are you suggesting that Apple should have instead come up with a 100% proprietary low-energy wireless audio protocol rather than use Bluetooth at all?

In any case they sound fine to me for what they are. Your expectations may be a little overblown considering their size and the fact that they're wireless.

>Are you suggesting that Apple should have instead come up with a 100% proprietary low-energy wireless audio protocol rather than use Bluetooth at all?

Yes, Steve Job insisted that the original ipods had a transparent DAC. We now have airpods using a garbage audio spec without transparent DACs. Apple really doesn't care about audio the way they did.

It's still not audiophile level. For example, they still don't support LDAC, aptX, or any equivalent BT codec that transfers music data beyond what lossy, low bitrate MP3 files are capable of.

you can't hear the difference between a 320kbps mp3 and a flac.

You can't, but you can hear the artifacts introduced from a lossy to lossy transcode from your streaming 128kbps spotify ogg file to whatever lossy codec your bluetooth headphones support

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don't use Spotify then. if you're using tidal, music on mobile is streamed at 320kbps by default, and then apple (for modern phones at least) uses aac for streaming. AAC is lossy, but it's also highly transparent. I've played music for most of my life, and I can literally hear no audible difference between listening to my sennheiser MTW via my iPhone X and my Onkyo DP-X1 with Fiio FH5's. Are there measurable real life differences between the two? Sure, I think that could be captured. Does it matter in real life? No. Technology has progressed so far since the original iPod and iPhone that Bluetooth 5.0 and some proprietary codecs are beginning to approach the ability to transmit something much closer to lossless audio, and we're already far past the point where the difference between wired and unwired is inaudible.

Are you retarded? I'm not claiming that one sounds better than the other, but come on man, stop being a nigger.

lmao, the absolute state of Jow Forums

facts don't care about your feelings nigger

feelings?

What did he mean by this?

A lossy to lossy transcode will always introduce artifacts, especially when they are different codecs

>Samsung bought Harman/Kardon
Apple is literally for niggers listening to ape-hop.

>>Samsung bought Harman/Kardon
They did? What a disappointment.

yes, and I guarantee you can't hear it. if you think you can, you're deluding yourself unfortunately

>What a disappointment
Why?

Samsung's trash

AirPlay uses ALAC, it always has...

He was referring to the airpods

Yeah you'll probably write off any of the pops and clicks introduced to just bluetooth interference from a stoplight

How do you even have a deeper interest in music as a company?
They fund and sell it, what more do you expect?

Lossless to lossy will always sound more transparent than something like 320CBR MP3 to lossy Bluetooth shite of a codec.

Not only that, they now have AKG and JBL under them.

It's about their wireless audio solutions for one thing since that's the path they've chosen to go in. And they don't even use the best quality codecs available or anything like it.

iPod Touch is still a thing. For some reason. That said, iTunes has been a mess for at least a decade at this point, so I'm not really sure why they don't just scrap the desktop shit, and come out with an app that allows easy uploads to your device and encrypted backups.

>AirPlay 2 works well and is easy to use
What devices implement that?

>It has today (Oct 11) been confirmed that AKG’s Vienna operation has been forced to close its doors following Harman’s announcement last month that it was making over 650 members of international staff redundant.
Fuck Samshit

>Apple Music could benefit from some incremental improvements
like iTunes not being hot fucking garbage

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AirPods only need to support whatever codec Apple uses for its digital stores and streaming services, and that’s AAC, so there’s no transcoding at all to be done from source to output. Coincidentally, AAC is also commonly used by popular video platforms like Netflix and Hulu.

LDAC and AptX all require transcoding because there is no content that is encoded in either format. Spotify encodes its music in Ogg Vorbis because they are cheap Eurofaglords.

It's not coincidentally.

AAC is supported by Netflix and Hulu specifically to cater Apple devices because Windows has no codecs