Is powerline ethernet a meme?

I used one for years and everything was slow as fuck. Images on Jow Forums would take 10+ seconds to load. I only got one because people told me wifi was shit for gayming, but as soon as I installed a wifi adapter its like I got a whole new computer.

It’s not a meme, mine works swimmingly. Even in a power strip it does very well. Just don’t skimp on it, buy a nice one

he meant electrical infetterance
*wink*

Works fine in my home, but if I don't leave
ping -t 192.168.1.1 running in a CMD.EXE window, my connection will randomly die out due to what I assume is some weird power management feature of the plugs.

That’s because you’re a dumb prick and payed $30 for a piece of shit power line adapter

Yes it does. That's the "theoretical" speed of the device and what the Homplug AV2 standard is. Get the ones with the ground plug because the old AV1 standard is extremely shit. They're better than wifi but won't out-right replace direct connections between you and your switch/router. But like said, don't skimp out on the model and you'll be fine

It's all the other shit in the circuit that causes the interference. microwaves, fridges, etc.

You also have no idea what kind or how the wiring was installed. It ranges from a being done by a professional electrician with everything up to code to a bunch of mexicans fucking with wires until it works.

If you're on windows you can use something like winmtr, and leave it running for a day or so, if you have any failures between your pc and the router that handles WAN connections, you might wanna pull an ethernet cable from wherever your router is to your room, if you can, or even check with wireless, it might actually be more stable.

but it works fine if I just leave ping running 24/7 so I just do that

If you got a set of TP-Link adapters, check the firmware updates; I remember reading about when I got my 2gbps kit, there was a bug with the power saving feature and there's a firmware update for them to mitigate this.

They're netgear iirc but like I said ping fixes it and I just made it autostart with all my rigs that use the PoE

Oh well. I guess this is one of those times where if it ain't broke and your solution is sound enough, don't fix it.

My house was built in the 80s. These things will work only in certain parts of the house. Does not work at all in the office, but in bedrooms they work.

wifi is shit for gaming.

Are they TP-Link? IIRC the latest utility allows you to switch off the power saving crap for each plug.

>it all depends
What house / building you put those in dictates how well it works if it does at all. Simple rule of thumb: The older the electrical wiring the worse it gets. If it's a relatively new house, like built this century, it's totally fine.

Do be aware that these things themselves generate a lot of interference. It's essentially like running WIFI using your electrical wiring as an antenna.

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Is there a certain threshold I should be looking to spend above? AV1000 at minimum?
I have a big house that's impossible to cable efficiently without punching a bunch of holes in the walls, so I'm definitely looking to powerline as an option. House was built in 1997.

Sounds like some big brained feature.
Does it affect you while playing games, i.e. does it disconnect you or introduce lag unless you run a ping in the background?
If so, all I can say is return that shit(if you can), and if nothing else, test with WiFi(use a spare router if you have it as an access point), what I've used is a TP-Link set, which gave me no issues, not that I can guarantee that it will work for you.

Fuck it, I really need to read the rest of the thread before posting. I hear ZyXel's management util can shut off power management in NetGear adapters.

yes sometimes it will disconnect in a game if I don't have ping running, but more often it's like if I'm downloading a file or something it will just stop for a minute or two randomly.

Zero issues with ping running though so I ain't too worried. Mostly posted my issue in case OP has a similar problem - super easy fix

In my honest opinion, you're going to be limited to your link speed. Just because it says "500mbps" and the actual port is 100mbps, you're going to be limited to 100mbps. If you got the money to spend, get a 2gbps (newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100158113 600566764) and be done with it. It allows basically for expansion and will easily be able to saturate your WAN bandwidth with no issues.

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I have a set of these set to be delivered tomorrow, and reviews say they're good but extremely bulky. They're supposed to work with almost anything that adheres with the HomePlug standard.

Huh? Huh? Huh?

That seems really weird, have you ever tried with a ethernet connection directly to your router?

Oh, like you're doing right now?

No but I've tried it with two separate adapters on 3 machines with multiple operating systems

Two adapters from who?
Two different vendors?
If so, I'd check your warranty/rental contract to see if it includes anything about fucked up powelines.
If not(two adapters from the same vendor)
I'd seriously consider self reflection.

works fine if you're in a house with a transformer connected straight to your power.

Works like shit in the situations you'd actually want to use it, I.E. in a apartment where you want to have an ethernet connection but not plumb ethernet through the walls.

I know for a fact that I have the only powerline adapter in the apartment building of 30-40 people and I get like 40mbps over my adapter that's rated for 1200. Interference is a thing when you have lots (LOTS) of devices drawing power from essentially the same rails and it fluctuates alot.

Made a big difference for me. My speeds probably average about 4-5x faster compared to wifi and my connection no longer randomly dropped out too which was an issue I had with wifi for awhile. The wiring in my house is quite old as it's a pre-WWII era house though the house is small and cable run from my desktop to the router is fairly short. Probably less than 30m and that's factoring in that it probably goes from the living room to the distribution box and up to my room rather than directly from room to room. I've had no issues so far and it works great. Don't know how well they'd fare in a larger house though.

As fair as wifi is concerned while the distance to the router is fairly short there are like three walls in between and the effective path length ends up being a lot longer and not straight. To make matters worse my PC now sits behind loads of instrumentation on my desk, oscilloscopes, VNA, spectrum analyzer, bench multimeters, etc. all of which have shielding and and signal guards which are all in the way between my router and PC making wifi signals very weak by the time they reach my PC. Due to size constraints this can't really be rearranged into a better configuration so wifi is no longer viable.

Why not just run AV2000?

My house is 40 years old, it has two expensive ZyXel units and a TP-Link unit. The ZyXels work flawlessly and get full internet speed, the TP-Link gets full speed but it crashes every few hours and I have to unplug and replug it.

my AV500's did that a lot. Sometimes multiple times a day, sometimes not even once that week. It was random and annoying but it was tolerable.

Dude, the guy has a fix and he's totally happy with it. Stop trying to shove help down his throat when he clearly doesn't want it or need it.

How do I into powerline?

These are horrible. Stupidest idea ever to use a fucking MMJ for network.

I upgraded my home entertainment setup which streams 4k rips from NAS to TV, going from wifi to Powerline and it was a tremendous upgrade.

Take a look at your breaker box. Are the two ends of the Powerlines connected to breakers on different sides of the box?

Homes get power from two hot lines with a 240 voltage differential but get 120v ac by splitting each hot line between a neutral. Basically I think the two ends of your Powerlines are 180 degrees out of phase with each other and it results in degraded performance and reliability.

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Just bought a D-Link AV2000. Works a fucking wonder compared to wi-fi.

if set up right while having the limitations in mind they work well enough. certainly easier than running a fucking Ethernet cable all the way to the room next door.

If your house/apartment has ethernet wired in already there is no point though

Depends on the house & the setup. Plug a fan in on the same circuit and rip signal.

It's utter shit. Pic related I pay for 300Mb and I get nothing remotely close. I've trink D-Link and Netgear. Both are unreliable and the connection keeps dropping.

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If your house is wired with coaxial you should look up MoCA adapters, I've been using a pair from Motorola for a few months and they have been rock solid. I bridge an upstairs network in a multi-story home to the internet connection on a different floor. Before MoCA I was using powerline adapters and suffered constant interruptions and disconnects. Granted, the electrical wiring in this house is sub-par, and it was kind of a bitch getting the adapters on the same circuit, so the blame can't really be placed on the powerline ethernet specification itself; but unless you're certain your wiring is top notch, why take the chance? Coaxial just werks. It will happily coexist with both cable internet and television signals on the coax network (but supposedly not U-verse or satellite).

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My performance wasn't degraded and the adapters we're on the same circuit (afaik, the breaker that has the router and my PC are on the same breaker, but the rooms are set up where running Ethernet cabling is unfeasible because of my dog).

And I've heard about switching everything to the same 120V circuit. But idk enough about electricity to really put up an arguement. Hell I'm terrified of toughing a 12v car battery by one terminal. I know it won't shock me but it still fucks with my head.

Depending on hour houses/buildings wiring can make them pretty hit or miss

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Stop being a lazy faggot and run some CAT 6 or better yet some OM3

I have 2 of these and they work fine but once in a blue moon a light on them turns red and I lose connection and get kicked off the game I'm playing. No idea what is happening.

>No idea what is happening
electrical infetterence

YOU MEAN LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW??

Probably right I just don't specifically know what's malfunctioning. It's so intermittent. I might just have too much stuff plugged in.

what part of 1200mb not wotking makes you think 2000 would?

Who are you quoting

huh? huh? huh?

>might just have too much stuff plugged in
It's probably large appliances that cycle on and off. Refrigerator, washer/dryer, HVAC, etc.

Why are you so mad at people trying to get Ethernet in their house where running cable is obviously not an option.

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My god why didn't I think of googling this before. Thank you!

No. Just no. There is no "quantum" anything, this isn't poorly understood near magic effects of some mythical theoretical particle. This is simply electrons being so small they can move through any material at the path of least resistance, because nothing can exert 100% perfect electrical control over them. It is current leakage. It is nothing but current leakage. It is current leakage in short channel devices, and it happens at literally every feature size, it is not exclusive to small FinFET devices like upcoming 5nm EUV FinFETs. Even planar devices have extremely high degrees of leakage through their channels, directly under the gates, electrons still leak out. Yet despite this the transistors still function.

Quantum tunneling is a meme regurgitated by people who know nothing about the field of FETs.