Is this the logical conclusion to desktop environments?

All I wanted we're fucking desktop icons!!!

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No, this is the GNOME desktop envoirment.

No, fuck you. I'll use the computer I like, and the software that works well with it. Besides, suppose I'm poor; your argument would then be invalid regardless.
>inb4 it's your fault if you're poor
objectively wrong

see above

>inb4 it's your fault if you're poor
>objectively wrong
I take it you voted for Bernie Sanders?

KDE is so much smoother it's not even funny, what fucking black magic did they do to gnome for it to need a fucking high end GPU for it to be smooth.

Not really, there are better DEs out there. I still use unity.

the design is not what's bad, what's bad is the low fps/bugs

The shell is single-threaded. Everything (window management, shortcut handling, GPU rendering and now mouse pointer tracking thanks to Gheyland) is rendered by the main thread, and the shell has to wait a task to finish before doing another. Endless context switching with huge amounts of data == worst desktop experience ever.

NICE TABLET FAGGOT

>b-but muh memory footpri-

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Use a computer made in this decade

Look, it's the GayNOME shill again

No, but it's still true. The following scenario is hypothetical as I am actually well off and also don't work. But I do know people who are actually in this exact situation I'm about to describe.
Suppose I'm poor.
>inb4 get a job
I have a job. It's quite difficult for me, so you can't really say I'm not working hard.
>inb4 get a higher paying job
Can't, I lack the credentials.
>inb4 go to school to get the credentials
With what money?
>inb4 save money to go to school
With what high-paying job?
>inb4 save money with the low-paying job I have
By cutting back on what service bill?
>inb4 grocery bill
Suppose I'm skinny. This is then physically dangerous.
>inb4 water bill
If I show up to work filthy or foul-smelling, I'll get fired.
>inb4 gas and electric bill
The only gas and electricity I use is the phone and the lights. To cut costs, I don't use a stove or a refrigerator; instead, I exclusively eat dry food. I can't disconnect the phone, or I'll miss calls and be fired. I need the lights to do my taxes.
>inb4 eat fast food and get fat, then not only will you be saving on your grocery bill by eating poorer quality food but you'll also accumulate a reserve so you can fast later and save even more on your grocery bill
Fast food is poor quality not just because it's fattening, but also because the nutrition it provides is unbalanced. High quality fattening food can be okay, but greasy fattening food is generally very low on micronutrients. While I would develop excessive fat reserves, I'd fail to develop micronutrient reserves, and, when fasting the lard back off, I'd expend micronutrients I don't have. In other words, you're asking me to get scurvy.
>inb4 get a higher paying job by being willing to do dangerous shit
No. I would rather continue living poor than risk death to become rich.

I didn't say anything about memory, I just said it's slow. And it is. I don't give a shit if it's not slow on your machine, it's slow on mine, so it's not an option. End of story.

>Look! It's another retard who thinks overview is the default workspace! Stick to an iPhone you fucking retard.

Gnome is such a pile of shit, holy fuck.

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>confusing menus with workspaces
Stick to eating glue you fucking retard

>he needs icons on his desktop like a child

>like a child
Do you have evidence to back up the shade you're throwing? In my experience, most people who use desktop icons are adults. Children generally don't run much software other than vidya, and they generally either ask their daddies to start their games or use game consoles instead of general purpose computers anyway.

>Fuck Gnome.
>Sets it up like Gnome.
>Also:Goatse OS?

Gnome likes to waste space and be obnoxious. It hides configuration by default and makes you use non-included software to have control of your system. And those fucking annoying corners!

>In my experience, most people who use desktop icons are adults.
Yes,mentally deficient adults use desktop icons, too.

I would use gnome instantly if it had blur for any application and rounded corners on every prpgram and all edges

Dude... I miss this too

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>Also:Goatse OS?
kek. Honestly, Neon was the only distro in which KDE worked alright for me. I used to shit on it when I tried kubuntu, nothing worked, it used a lot of RAM, was slow as fuck, but Neon just werks.

Besides, my problem with gnome is not its design itself, it's the fucking wasted space. It has a top bar but wastes it with a fucking useless calendar! Mine has the calendar AND a global menu!

>too
You mean exclusively.
As I pointed out, most children don't use desktop icons.
Also, considering most adults don't even know how to access software or files if they aren't on the desktop, I wouldn't call them mentally deficient at all. Because then you'd be calling most adults mentally deficient, which is inherently fallacious, since you'd be calling most adults less intelligent than most adults.

Gnome is a lot more keyboard driven than KDE which fits my workflow better, and I can't stand the look of QT apps.

>buying clothes and food, paying bills
It IS your fault you're poor.

>and I can't stand the look of QT apps.
But user, they're so qt.

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Aww, I apologize, user. You're a good sport, and your desktop looks pretty cool.Most KDE users are spergs and aspies, so I was looking to get a rise out of someone.

cute apps >>>>> foot abomination

extensions.gnome.org/extension/1465/desktop-icons/

Gnome users wish they were this productive.

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These extensions don't work on OpenBSD. So now I use Mate and have it set up in a way that reminds me of Windows 7 (the greatest operating system of all time).

Why though?
It seems that they are not needed at all nowdays as everybody is launching applications by pressing win + first letters of application.
Maybe for files, but I'm not really sure about that, file hoarding on desktop usually ends up in a fucking pile of garbage on it.

meu macaco
this looks horrible and doesn't seem to be that useful, stop the bait ubuntu is popular cause it is productive and the easy to use

You're implying I'm wrong to buy clothes and food and pay bills. Which in turn implies there's an alternative. However, there isn't.
>inb4 don't wear clothes
If I show up to work without clothes, I'll get fired, and also go to prison.
>inb4 make clothes
If I show up to work wearing something obviously unskillfully handmade, I'll get fired. I lack the ability to produce clothes that are skillfully handmade, and don't have time in my life to work on developing such an ability, else my focus would be too split and I'd get fired.
>inb4 don't eat food
I'd die.
>inb4 make food
With what farm?
>inb4 start a farm
With what land?
>inb4 acquire land
With what money? Back to square one.
>inb4 don't use water
I'd get fired (see previous post).
>inb4 gather water myself
It wouldn't be clean enough to wash in, and I'd be at risk of infection. Even if I filtered it, it wouldn't be clean enough to drink.
>inb4 don't use gas or electricity
I'd get fired (see previous post).
>inb4 make my own electricity
With what mill?
>inb4 setup a mill
With what land?
>inb4 obtain land
see above

>These extensions don't work on OpenBSD
Haha.

I agree it doesn't look as good as it could, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to set it so the windows are transparent with blur, and the color is a little off. Beats gnome though. Also, no firefox thumbnails.

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I really like Gnome, it really clicks with my workflow. But like anything it can do with more polish and accessibility. Tweaks should be either built in to the settings or included by default.

Gnome search works very well. KDE use experience is a clone of windows xp with more options, it brings nothing new to the table

It has the most polished and well thought out UX of all the DEs, no matter what anyone says. KDE has performance and pretty looks going for it. A mix of the two would be the perfect DE.

Most of the problems with gnome can be fixed by using the dantrellb systemdless gnome 3.30.2 on Gentoo OpenRC

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>not getting your clothes from charity
Have fun being brainlet and poor.

Innovation for the sake of it is stupid.

It has a lot of "Quality of Life" improvements available
github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd#configuration-optional-quality-of-life-improvements

/bread

In this hypothetical scenario that in reality I don't personally experience but know people who do, I already do get my clothes from charity. I buy them for cheap from charity, because the clothes I can get for free from other charity organizations are too visibly worn out and I'd get fired.

Is this thing at the bottom always on? Looks weird

where is my minimize button and taskbar? why isn’t it like windows? what a bad de

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It hides from windows.

Nope.
>Plasma 5 has much more eyecandy and features out of the box
>takes up much less resources despite this
>can function basically identically to GNOME 3 due to its superior customization capabilities, minus the performance hit
There are absolutely zero reasons to use GNOME 3 over Plasma 5.
addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/gnome-like-overview-mode-in-kde-plasma/
Plasma 5 is the best DE, awesomewm is the best wm

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Is this below minimum wage job the only job in this hypothetical town? Can't this waggie get, maybe harder, but better paying job? Because how you describe currently, feels like it's either, below minimum wage or he has to support his wife and children.
If that's the case, then he's in luck! I heard that racial minorities are very desirable in USA.

Fuck gnome. I'll never forgive them for the harm they've done to desktop linux

> if you don't eat garbage you don't understand

He's right, though.
i.e. how can you possibly know if you don't like taste of shit if you never tried it? It might be your favorite meal and fetish.
BRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP

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I want my meme folder on my desktop.

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I used gnome for a year.

There is nothing logical about that piece of shit.

*Krashes*

Algum BR? Huehuehuehuehue
Sopa de macaco uma delicia......
Porramos piranhas meninos

Soon we'll be in 2019 years of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. It's better now. Give it another year a try.

Urban legend says, that if you use GNOME with systemd for 2 years, at night when you'll sleep, Pottering will come at the end of your bed and suck your toes until you wake up and pat him on the head

I don't completely hate gnome 3, in fact it's the first desktop environment I ever used on linux but others like KDE are just better in my opinion. back then I didn't care about the devs and what was under the hood but since I've been using linux for 4 years they just annoy me to much to ignore. coding a large portion of a desktop in javascript is incredibly stupid because the performance will be poor the it will use a lot more resources and having a hard dependency on systemd is throwing non-systemd distros and BSD's under the bus and the devs are ignorant bastards. I would actually be using it now if it didn't have these issues

>Hard dependency on systemd
>He doesn't know about Gnome 3.30.2 openRC on Gentoo which is much better than vanilla gnome without Systemd bloat

Linux ones, yeah.

I obviously know about that but I think you shouldn't have to use a layer to use gnome without systemd. they make it harder for the devs and the user who choose not to use systemd which is complete bullshit

>If you don't like gnome you are too dumb to understand it's workflow paradigm
No, I understand Macs workflow, gnome is just a bad DE

bsowm
dwm requires patches and dwm-PATCHED.COMed is bloat

Its very straight to use and easy to understand, not sure what are you talking about.
Gnome-classic should be a default imo, but otherwise its really simple.

>Can't this waggie get, maybe harder, but better paying job?
Not without A) obtaining credentials or B) putting their life at serious risk on a daily basis. The jobs we're talking about are not below minimum wage. They're things like fast food, retail, etc. As for obtaining credentials, they need to save money for that, which they can't do without the kinds of jobs they'd be doing it for in the first place; and as for putting their life at risk (e.g. construction work), that would defeat the purpose of making an effort at anything whatsoever.

Used to be a fair argument.
But having used the same install of KDE Neon without hiccups for about half a year, I can wip out the "werks on my machine card" and call it a day.

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xfce vs kde
help a brainlet pls

no longer an argument

Just install them and try if you are not sure. Or use gnome, why not, you don't know what you want, maybe thats what you are looking for.

ChromeOS has the comfiest UI desu

Kde had more features, looks better . Xfce is rock solid stable and faster.

i know what i want, it's i3, but i already got that
the recommendation is not for me exactly but a somewhat competent friend of mine with a laptop that hates gnome

If he is "somewhat competent" he can decide himself.

If rock solid stable means a critical bug that randomly prevents xfce from running ever again until a full system restart and breaks all panels and programs in the current running session, crashing them in the process, has not been fixed in about a decade now, it sure is.

>Mac
Mac doesn't have multiple workspaces and has a dock retard

I heard factory workers gets paid better than MacDonald's. Or tell this hypothetical man to go to work in construction sites.
Lots of retards are working these jobs in my country without any credentials and gets paid above minimum.

>Mac doesn't have multiple workspaces
It does

It doesn't.
Pic related. This is Mac with multiple workspaces. See? Exactly.

How do you get the conversion thing?

No you can't.

github.com/noam09/ulauncher-units

gnome a shit

Gnome is basically ipad desktop.

Disgusting

Make me >>>::((
Anecdotes are the best form of evidence, baka

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