VHS Digitize

oh you're using a Hauppauge? i had one and hated it, i switched to a GV-USB2 and well i hate it even more

what you're gonna wanna do is convert the file down to something smaller in a different program like Any Video Converter, Handbrake, or FormatFactory. WinTV sucks

With older WinTV, you can tweak the mpeg2 settings manually in the registry. Not sure if you can do that with newer ones.
I record 352x480 at 6 Mbps and that is about 4.5 GB for a 2 hour VHS. Since VHS does not have good horizontal resolution, you can get smaller files by using a wider PAR (anamorphic).

Newer versions just have the "Good, Better, Best" presets that OP mentioned. "Best" is like 6Mbps which for MPEG-2 still isn't enough for artifact free video during fast motion. Ideally you need to use the highest bitrate possible (12Mbps video and 384kbps audio) and then transcode to another format at a lower bitrate.

What kind of % improvement do you think you can get over mpeg2 with a sensible bitrate by using a newer codec? I'm curious since I assume newer codecs would have diminishing returns at such a low resolution.

It's generally 50% but newer codecs are only better for encoding at lower bitrates. MPEG-2 shits the bed ~2Mbps for SD video but at high bitrates (7-8Mbps+) there isn't as much difference. MPEG-2 is better for archival and preservation but only if the source material is good enough quality to begin with to warrant using such a high bitrate. For VHS quality video I record at 12Mbps MPEG-2 from the HW capture card then encode around 6-8Mbps using h264 which produces more than good enough results.

>1 hour of video is only 3GB

What the fuck are you complaining about?

Should have set the quality to good at least.

heres the settings for one of the files

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Like other anons already mentioned: Use newer codecs to reencode it. AVC if you want to go with a higher bitrate (~2Mpbs), HEVC if you really want to cut down the file size. Depending on your preferences you could also do some denoising.

The issue is that it's encoding the videos at 720 with a bitr that seems too high for native VHS output, you can get whole bluray movies rips at 1Gb these days that look just fine

Can you at least bother yourself to do a google search on what video encoding is, and how it works. FFS

Reading through it now, was away for a few hours. Ok I think I have an idea of what I could do. I was just getting concerned because I have over 50GB of home movies and shit I was digitizing and I was trying to get it down to a better size. I'll try AVC.
Dumb question, in porgrams like Vegas, do I set interlacing to progressive or is it better to keep it consistent with a Top First interlacing for the encoded video?

ill post any good caps I find along the way. some real gold here

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any advice on specific settings besides H.264?

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Choose the slowest preset you can stomach (except placebo which is always overkill).
Tune: Film is a good general option, especially to preserve slight film grain
Tune: Grain if you have very noisy footage and you want to preserve said noise
Tune: Animation for - well - animated footage. Will sacrifice a lot of noise.
To get the right crf value you can only do test encodes (e.g. the first 1000 frames). 16-18 usually produces high quality output, but especially with Tune: Grain it might explode the file size.

Hate to break it to you but VHS NTSC res is 333×480. So trying to encode it to DVD (720 x 480) res will gain you nothing. This is the prime reason along with component output and 5.1 audio that DVD overtook VHS anyway. Tapes were all stereo, ac3 or mp2/3 will work fine.

Reason VHS didn't look like shit back in the day was due to most people didn't have jumbo size tv's as is the norm today.

Since its VHS tape there's not much grain to preserve so that's not an issue.

WinTV by default makes a 720x480 video there's nothing I can do about that unless I re-encode it

>you can get whole bluray movies rips at 1Gb these days that look just fine
>just fine
This is why no companies care about quality any more. Fucking normies caused SDTV to be 1.5 Mb/s MPEG2 as standard now.

OP, the best you're gonna do for archival purposes is 704x576 (704x480 for NTSC) at maybe 3 Mb/s AVC (6 Mb/s if stuck with MPEG2). It's overkill but don't make the mistake of having compression artifacts all over your archive copies.

Up that audio bitrate to at least 192kbps, preferably 256kbps+ which is adequate for MP2.

Keep in mind these are home movies. a few were taped with pic related (CG-9908) and the later ones with a JVC vhs-c recorder. I dont know if they were even recorded in stereo.

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and the rest with something similar to this

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The fuck are you smoking, my dude? I've got 1080p 2+ hour files smaller than that.

You should still raise the bitrate even for mono because the bandwidth is split between the two channels. Ignoring joint stereo encoding, 128kbps stereo will equate to 64kbps mono.

I seriously envy you people who are able to watch YIFY rips and the like. I can't step down from Bluray or equivalent quality, the exception being LaserDiscs because they don't have compression artifacts.

Im with you man. As soon as I bought a BD player for my computer I started doing my own rips: for movies I love, I ripped at or near full size (20GB) for others I would rip anywhere from 8-12GB. MAJOR improvement over the 1.2gb yify rips I had before. Plus I was able to keep the DD/DTS audio track in some of them.

>mpeg2
kek

I dont know what im doing wrong but when I encode its coming out even bigger filesize than the original video, at a worse quality.

fuck, its still happening

>flcl-ep2-4-VHS20
Why bother with things you can find on DVD at better quality, tho?

Suppose this is on topic,
I've been looking to digitize my VHS collection for years by now and I've got some high-end equipment needed for it.
Question I've got is whether or not Panasonic editing VHS VCR from the late 80's actually output Y/C over this dumb connector or not?
I've only got one cable for this and it's not exactly common so would rather not cannibalize if it ain't happening, there's talk on the internet about this doing so on JVC and Sony machines but nothing on Panasonic.
Would the difference between a regular composite and Y/C signal even be noticable on relatively high-end recording equipment?

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Because op is a hipster.

People on /tv/ kept asking to me to make VHS rips of FLCL because it has commercials in it from 2003

is Y/C even worth it if the content wasnt recorded in that quality? I doubt an SVHS player will make regular VHS content look any better

Change it to 480?

i use pic related for my VHS conversions. a nice high end sony unit from 1990, picked up at a thrift store for $10 a few years ago. It has a special line out that doesnt show OSD text like play, stop, etc so it wont show up the computer file

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>He doesn't encode his VHS at 60fps
you're doing it wrong. youtube.com/watch?v=sn_TDa9zY1c

>Paying more than a £1 for a video player

>encoding on the fly
>WinTV
The Poor, Worse, or FuckingJoke settings just (nominally) control the amount of frames its dropping.

He paid in Sweet Murican Dollars not Cuckadoodle youwatfuckuros

ike all good standards, VHS had variations - if you had S-VHS recorded tapes, and an S-VHS player, you have an unbroken S-Video (Y/C) path, and using a digitiser that accepted that as source, would be an improvement. Otherwise, with 'normal' VHS, you maybe have something in the chain performing a signal conversion to Y/C, its not doing shit for the original quality tho, its a waste of bandwith. tldr, if your source is S-VHS tapes, that were properly recorded using S-SVHS setting, def worth bothering about maintaining a Y/C path to digitiser. Otherwise, 'normal' VHS tapes, not make a fuck of difference.

Remember to run multiple passes due to the way VHS works if you record from it 30 times and then combine the 30 recordings you will get quality close to HD

What crf value are you using and which preset? Also does Handbrake apply any filters by default?