So its not a Window Manager but rather a Protocol that requires a window compositor that will implement all the tools you need to manage your windows but because everyone is rolling the mindset of - less is more - and - you don't need that its to niche - no one actually implemented the basic tools to: change resolution obtain window specific attributes and change them sending fake input to windows unified and coherent screenshot consistent window decorations across all programs multiple users displaying windows at the same time changing the gamma and brightness of your screen a fucking clipboard screencast ...
Something tells me that some of these things are exaggerated. I highly doubt GNOME and KDE on Wayland lack "a fucking clipboard".
Josiah Phillips
The idea is that wayland exposes a simpler and more modern protocol for you to create a display manager with. So if you want to make a replacement for X, you can do it without having to interface with driver apis directly. You can just write it to interface with wayland.
In practice there's not really anything wrong with X that wayland fixes. Recent gaming performance benchmarks have even shown there's really no performance gains to using one or the other.
Think of Wayland like DirectX, or OpenGL. They don't provide the features, they enable you to build the features you want.
Samuel Lopez
They don't, op is just a nigger.
Andrew Campbell
Can you copy from a GNOME program and paste into a KDE program and vice versa with no trouble at all?
Anthony Miller
>Recent gaming performance benchmarks Fuck off X is absolute, unadulterated, pure fucking garbage, and I wholeheartedly welcome the advent of Wayland, or literally any other display server/protocol that comes along and takes X to the fucking gallows once and for all.
The model as a whole is extremely outdated, visibly inefficient, insecure, and it such a fucking mess of spaghetti code and extensions and life support that only a few people on the planet still understand how to actually maintain it. Their opinion on X? "Kill it with fire, please."
For a group of people that love to lambaste Windows users for having "babyduck syndrome", I've never seen more babyducks when it comes to the retards peddling the "x-xorg just werks" shit and spreading dumbfuck FUD about Wayland. (Of course, in all fairness, it doesn't help when all the distros out there wanted to be the first kids on the block to use Wayland and started pushing it out before it was 100% ready, leading to the average retarded joe to swear off of it.)
Similarly, for a group of people that jerk themselves off over software minimalism, there sure are a lot of people that love to suck the bloated dick of X. The same people who cry "Systemd does way too much for an init system!" seem to have no problem with all of the shit a display server shouldn't be doing, and they're too fucking retarded to understand that the Wayland protocol will eventually/has already gotten standardized extensions/addons for the sorts of shit they're bitching about (for instance, screensharing is now implemented under Pipewire, which on a side note, will kill another cancer, PA, eventually)
Simply put, and in simple user terms--X is responsible for a lot of the jankiness of the Linux desktop (as you'd expect of a display server that's been kept on life support for 30 years), and when Wayland is eventually adopted, it'll go a LONG way towards bringing Linux to the fucking 21st century.
the bible and emacs are working pretty well, not gona drop them for communism and electron.
Luke Scott
All I know is that it breaks
William Stewart
>consistent window decorations across all programs
This is something I'm really worried about. To me, a big part of what makes linux worthwhile is the choice of different window managers. I found a window manager that suits me and my workflow and I've come to rely on it. I'm worried that all that will be gone once wayland is adopted in favour of X.
