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Share advice, reduce bloat, and help others reduce their bloat.
These are the most common locations of bloat in your system:
>OS
>DE/WM
>Video/Music player
>Image viewer
>File Manager
>Text editor
>Shell
>Web Browser
>Terminal
General advice:
If you aren't comfortable with the terminal or aren't proficient with GNU/Linux and/or Unix, this thread isn't for you.
If you think it might be bloat, it probably is.
you homos can't fathom the extent of my minimumism
How minimal are you?
>you don't actually need to name thousands upon thousand of images
>just ls code like coding slut bro
Absolute retardation. Tag based sub filesystem for the mainstream fucking where?
musl busybox on linux 2.6 nommu through uart or bust
currently a point in space user
Alright, transitioning to st from urxvt. Did anyone experience problems with transparency? It works fine for dark colors but is nonexistent for whitish ones. For example, it doesn't work for #ffffff, it does for #dcdcdc but looks fucked up for low aplha (which is not the case for dark cols).
I am using compton (which is not needed for minimal system, i know). I am asking it here because I believe there are more people using st.
So, is the problem with st, compton or my brain?
github.com/mayfrost/guides/blob/master/ALTERNATIVES.md
rocks.suckless.org
cat-v.org
just got into 9front. i have a few questions.
1) how do i safely reboot? if i fshalt first, i cant send the reboot command without i/o error.
2) what all do i have to do to make a second user account fully function? ive created a new account, put it into upas, sys, and ive done auth/wrkey. do i need to put my account in -1 adm instead of glenda? or can i do glenda,myacct
Have you made st work with Xresources? A guy in the /fglt/ couldn't and made me wonder
github.com
>dwm
No thanks. Fuck that shit.
What the fuck, this is the absolute worst piece of software I've ever used.
Minimal my ass, it forces me to have a C compiler for mere configuration, it's not self sufficient.
Layouts are beyond retarded and blocky as fuck. Dynamic my ass.
I'm back to i3.
Suckless? More like featureless.
Why the FUCK are you transitioning to st from urxvt?
Are you transitioning as well?
urxvt is pretty unmaintainable
Not really, you must have mistaken it for Xterm.
Not him but Xterm is not unmaintainable, it has even less code than urxvt, it just happens people mistook a joke for reality
Not really. xterm not only is larger, but it emulates obscure terminals you will never need.
If you want a lean, lightweight terminal that is still usable, urxvt is the way to go.
Leave st to autists who never produce anything of value.
But I've seen LoC measures and they say xterm is smaller? If you can find the citations I would be glad
There you go.
This is of course a rough estimate (it also considers comments, etc.), but you get the idea. I only considered actual source files (.c and .h), omitting documentation, build files and such.
The archives I used for this comparison are located at:
>rxvt
datapacket.dl.sourceforge.net
>xterm
ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.tar.gz
Both taken from their respective websites (rxvt seems to be officially hosted on sourceforge). So if you don't believe me, you're free to perform these measurements yourself.
I believe you
Opinions on uzbl?
Hello, friens
Reminder to look at "available" ram when looking at memory usage. Linux artificially inflates the used number due to disk caching.
linuxatemyram.com
unuzbl
It was good but I couldn't post on Jow Forums with the one from Debian's repository, maybe with the latest from source
based 2bwm
Do you use it? How is it?
Using something like cloc will show you code/comments/whitespace
>cloc
That's nice
why no bash
Bash is for enterprise needs, normally doesn't fit here, and zsh is not as minimal as mksh or dash
could you tell me why is that? i am very curious.
>OS
Freshly installed system.
Arch Austismux
>DE/WM
i3-gaps
>Video/Music player
N/A - Looking for one.
>Image viewer
feh
>File Manager
N/A - Looking for a decent one, reluctant to use python stuff like Ranger.
>Text editor
Vim
>Shell
Bash, but considering changing to dash
>Web Browser
Firefox. Still looking for a decent alternative.
>Terminal
urxvt.
Bash is more an interpreted programming language, a very powerful one. The bashisms people talk about is a bunch of functions carried to perform stuff beyond the scope of other shells. Other shells try to be minimal and POSIX compliant, which means compatible to a standard. Use your friendly search engine.
thx
Been thinking of building around wayland, any advice? Are there any decent web browser that are both minimal and use wayland (i looked at qutebrowser, but trying to not use python things)? Can I use imv without having to use x11?
Isnt wayland dependent on dbus bloat?
>forces me to have a C compiler
kek
Also, what do you mean by the layouts being "blocky as fuck"?
>OS
arch
>DE/WM
emacs(exwm)
>Video/Music player
emacs(emms)
>Image viewer
emacs(dired)
>File Manager
emacs(dired)
>Text editor
emacs(emacs)
>Shell
emacs(eshell)
>Web Browser
emacs(eww)
>Terminal
emacs(eshell)
So basically
>OS
>emacs
>>OS
>>emacs
Isn't that GuixSD?
>File Manager
Give LF a try github.com
I'm looking for a minimal systemd free distro.
I want to compile my own kernel and boot with EFI Stub to a encrypted LVM partition (need a decent initrd/initramfs).
I don't want to compile anything besides the kernel, so Gentoo and other source-based distros are out of question.
Any recommendations? So far I've found:
>antiX
>Artix
>Devuan
>Void
Unfortunately, Devuan is not rolling release so unless there's a really compelling argument I'm not picking it.
I had some problems with Void when compiling the kernel and trying to boot with EFI Stub, might have been my fault though.
From what Ive read on the website, it doesnt use dbus
bump
parabola is a free as in freedom distro that has an openrc option
more like NEETs guide to wasting more time
Is it worth it to build your own kernel?
I'm on debian. Any debian users built their kernel?
what benefits do you expect to gain?
you can use the backport kernel
Yes, an specialized kernel is not only faster, it can have features not added by the distro maintainers. It takes time to customize though.