Job interviews then: >"Sorry user, you don't have enough experience for this [entry level] position" >tfw forced into whoring yourself out for the next four years at an unpaid tech support internship just to get some of that fabled muh experience job interviews now: >"Sorry user, we decided to move forward with another, MORE EXPERIENCED candidate :^)" >tfw that other candidate invariably turns out to be a 60+ year old boomer who is barely able to use a computer, types at half a word per minute, and has ZERO certs
Give it to me straight, Jow Forums, there is no escaping this hell, is there?
Interviewers make up their mind about hiring you within the first 5 seconds of meeting you. They simply don't like you. Stop being such a sperg.
Jonathan Smith
You can become a woman or claim you're a racial minority. I did the latter when I was applying for college. I took a DNA test and it told me I was 1% middle eastern. It made things a lot easier. I dropped out anyway.
Samuel Lee
>Just graduated with a distinction in a biophysics MSc >Looking for work in medical tech >200+ applications for "entry level" positions the country over >"Sorry user you don't have two years industrial experience doing this exact job" >"Sorry user you need a PhD minimum for this lab slave job" >"Sorry user you don't have a car" The memes are real, not just in computer science and related fields. I've given up, trying to become an accountant now instead.
Where do you live? Just L I E. In the US, it's pretty much commonly agreed that you have to lie to some degree on your resume.
Jaxson Sullivan
>tfw that other candidate invariably turns out to be a 60+ year old boomer who is barely able to use a computer, types at half a word per minute, and has ZERO certs I call bullshit on this.
Jace Collins
>tfw just graduated my Master's degree and already got 3 years of experience because I wasn't a lazy ass while getting my degree and worked instead of having fun
Brandon Cook
>Interviewers make up their mind about hiring you within the first 5 seconds of meeting you. Stop being such a sperg. Thanks for the tip, but I'm not interested in continued slavery for any company that vapid anyway
>You can become a woman Hard pass >or claim you're a racial minority >tfw blonde hair and blue eyes Granted, HR drones are some of the most mindless creatures to walk this earth, but I don't think even they would fall for it
Feels real bad, man. In the meantime I'm selling enterprise e-waste on eBay at tax-exempt profit margins of 100%, which at least beats having a fucking McJob
Xavier Cox
>Jow Forums experiences the utter retardation of capitalism first hand >Jow Forums continues to blindly support it and be good little consumerist whores read marx.
Jaxson Evans
My resume is fine. Top grades at graduation, relevant certs etc. but apparently having four years of field experience doesn't cut it for entry level positions anymore. All anyone seems to care about is experience, but how can a mid twenties person ever hope to compete with boomers more than twice their age on that?
Gavin Martin
Credit to you my dude, very entrepreneurial. I sold my gaymer pc bit by bit to avoid having to go anywhere near retail work again whilst I carry on job hunting. Just got my degree certificate through the post today, 4 years work and it's worth jack shit because employers don't give a damn about it. University is a meme, go learn a trade lads.
Companies create impossible to achieve job descriptions, so that when no one is able to meet their criteria, they can tell the government they need more skilled workers. Then the government imports a thousand more Pajeets on HB1 Visas. This is capitalism for you.
Nathaniel Diaz
>marx meme
So you are in your 1st year in college?
Angel Ortiz
>Top grades at graduation Stopped reading
Hudson Price
Kinda not wrong
Gabriel Campbell
>go learn a trade Used to hold an apprenticeship for electrician (one of the more comfy trades) years ago, but I couldn't complete it due to some physical injuries which just made that type of work impossible. Interesting and challenging field though.
We know, but what can you do about that as a single person? Are we all just condemned to eternal slavery in retail? What's going to happen as robots progressively encroach on that?
Ayden Rogers
from the way you post it 100% is the way you're acting. interviews aren't about technical skills they're about if you're a tolerable person to work with
Robert Flores
>robots progressively encroach on that? already have, but still long ways away
Luis Rogers
No. Real capitalism would be just importing pajeets without the concept of a visa.
Justin Turner
>read Marx Fuck off Commie.
Brayden Ross
I'm not looking for a job to make new friends, sweetie. Especially not in tech, the vast majority of applicants here are going to be male, and they're going to be there to get shit done, rather than spend all day hanging around at the water dispenser playing social club.
I don't apply for positions I'm not qualified for. In most cases I meet way beyond just the minimum requirements listed, so if that's not enough and they also expect perfect fit NPC who'll go out of their way to try to make friends with everyone, then it's really not a loss to me that they end up hiring someone else.
Evan Bailey
you kids got a lot to learn its not WHAT you know its WHO you know if you didnt make friends in college and spent all your time alone playing wow then you're gonna get fucked while social timmy with a sub-100 IQ gets the money all you can do now i remember to smile and fake being a nice person
Hudson Bailey
Welp, guess it's game over then
Isaac Ward
Would you have preferred I told you to read Bookchin? I'm not a marxist but marx is entrycore.
>wtf I love being exploited! literal cuck
Gavin Gomez
>exploited capitalism is not exploitative.
>I'm a useless piece of shit who's only worth is the fact that I 'labour', so I should make that the measure of value so that I can be a retard and still be considered just as useful as people who actually have talents or skills Fuck off leech. Go die in a fire, and bring all your comrades with you
Matthew Taylor
>all these w*stern cuckolds getting railed by late stage capitalism and stream of human garbage into their countries that completely fucks the job market
I got entry level dev job just with highschool diploma :^) t.east euro
No one gives a shit about what you want to get done. If you work for a company, you're supposed to do what your boss wants you to do. If you're unable to work with others or if you annoy people around you, you'd be hampering the overall productivity in the workplace. If you feel like you can do a better job than what the management expects from you, just go ahead and start your own enterprise.
Ian Lopez
>companies in his country are hiring autistic high-school graduates >he thinks this is something to boast about
Jonathan Flores
my coworkers have college degrees, im not a brainlet like you
Ayden Baker
If you're willing to meet me somewhere, I would be happy to end your life for you. Public or private, doesn't matter. Give me a time and place and I'll be there.
Tyler Gray
>tfw that other candidate invariably turns out to be a 60+ year old boomer who is barely able to use a computer, t
computers were commonplace for tech people by the 80s, meaning when this boomer was in his 20s, so you are just making shit up. Old people slow down and don't have patience for all the shiny shit that appeals to 20 year old children, but it's rare to find one in IT who "barely" knows how to use a computer.
Daniel Hernandez
Exactly my point. If the objective of getting along and being best friends forever with everyone comes before productivity and creating tangible value, that's not a place I could force myself to get out of bed for before the sun rises in the mornings anyway. Not a loss.
Cameron Gomez
Certs are only good for wiping your ass, user. *60+ geezer*
Elijah Morgan
>unpaid tech support internship Sorry you got scammed, but this isn't a a real thing. Trained monkeys can get real tech support jobs, and, based on my company's tech support staff, many have.
Kevin Watson
>I got entry level dev job just with highschool diploma :^) Call me when that pays better than our McDonald's fry cooks.
Gavin Morales
At least he gets a desk, the privilege of not permanently reaking of fast food kitchen, and probably reasonably sane working hours for a human being. I know which one I'd pick.
Jonathan Smith
Fine for him, but coding on a team with a bunch of uneducated retards sounds worse than just about anything I can imagine. It's literally being stuck in CS101 group project hell for life. I realize there's not much you can do if your hiring pool is nothing but slavs, but thank God we can expect higher standards here.
Josiah Scott
EU too.
>you seem familiar. have we interviewed you before? >n-no of course not haha >okay haha
Because middle management would be so much better as a class of armed political commissars.
Read people who actually had good ideas, not Marx.
Isaiah Ortiz
better dead than red fag
Parker Rivera
What is Marxism going to do other than cripple & reverse economic growth, divide people, and cause unnecessary death?
Gabriel King
>the vast majority of applicants here are going to be male, and they're going to be there to get shit done, rather than spend all day hanging around at the water dispenser playing social club.
Oh you sweet summer child.
> so if that's not enough and they also expect perfect fit NPC who'll go out of their way to try to make friends with everyone, then it's really not a loss to me that they end up hiring someone else.
Enjoy never getting a job. I sure wouldn't want to work with you with that attitude.
Oliver Long
>relevant certs >certs lol
Nathaniel Torres
desu senpai capitalism is the only way we're going to be in a position to do something else in a way that doesn't cause increased poverty and death. What is the point of shitting on your only hope of successful socialism? You should be praising capitalism for being the only thing capable of delivering your fantasy
Liam Wood
Anybody with any tech related undergraduate degree should have been able to get at least one PAID internship. If you were not, you are uniquely unqualified for some reason.
Carson Nelson
It isn't. >sign document to exchange your labour for a salary/wage >whaa I'm being exploited >whaa my surplus labour is being extracted Nigger you agreed to employment. If you think it's unfair, you're free to get a job elsewhere. You're free to live off the land, you're free to start your own business, you're free to mooch off welfare like the useless degenerate you are.
Adam Cox
The only socialist thing I support is single-payer healthcare, and that's mainly because I hate having to fill out paperwork. If you're employed, you have to choose a plan, which is not too bad, just choose one at random or the cheapest one, but if you want to take a year or two off from working, you have to choose some elaborate bullshit, prove your income level and that you're not employed, etc. Then when you go to the hospital, you have to fill out forms, give them your health insurance information, deal with an elaborate billing process when everybody disagrees on who pays for what. My dream is to never have to fill out any paperwork ever again. And that requires single-payer healthcare.
Alexander Reyes
socialism is a nepotist shit-fest full of poverty.
Carson Williams
how not to be a bum
Aaron Bailey
>I sure wouldn't want to work with you with that attitude. Likewise, I can smell your sour pussy through the monitor.
Jack Edwards
Giving obese diabetic single-mothers free healthcare isn't a good idea. They should pay even if it's a reduced amount.
Austin Martinez
had an internship interview recently and they said i'm way overqualified
Alexander King
Meh, it works out to cheaper overall to just provide everyone with single payer healthcare, and I'm more concerned with not filling out paperwork than I am either way with some obese single mother who will die before she reaches old age.
Eli Brown
Try to get an internship while you're still a student (after 2nd year is a great time). Disregard the requirements (i.e. if you meet half of them, you're fine, and if they write that they only want last year students, disregard it), they're just what the perfect candidate looks like (which they're not going to find). Try to get one which looks like you'll have a lot to do, not one where you can just fuck around for x hours. Make it clear that you want to work full time during summer vacation, and then switch to part time. Once you're there for 3-6 months, you should get promoted to a junior (if you don't start as one). Stick around for some time if you like it there and they pay you adequately, otherwise start looking for a new job. The key is that once you have a decent job, you'll probably stop screwing around. Just don't drop out during the final year.
Connor Rogers
>I want other people to pay for my healthcare because it's hard to do paperwork Why are you even here? Don't you have some monkey bars to play in, special child?
Brandon Collins
I just want to make sure your mom can afford to abort you next time.
Asher Wright
I would be the one paying for other people's care from my taxes nine years out of ten. And I don't care. Because the current system is set up so that the hospital can charge me in the form of a dozen $30-$40 bills. Even though the total cost is several hundred bucks, I have to spend hours verifying that I have paid all the bills or my credit is dinged. And that's a massive amount of time wasted on my part.
Landon Collins
Why would my mom abort me. It's not like I want to literally enslave society so that I don't have to worry about fucking paperwork for healthcare
>hospital beurocracy is bad >here just take all of my money instead Can we genocide America and replace them with intelligent people who aren't mongoloids?
Dylan Clark
>Have film degree >Decide to get into IT because fuck Australian film industry >2 years later am DevOps earning over 100k
Come on Jow Forums, if it takes you more than a few years to get where I am just give up
>see a job advertisement that interests me, but I don't fit the requirements >Email asking if they'd consider hiring someone with no experience >They proceed to create a junior role for me Just keep trying, bro.
Ayden Cox
In literally every developed country it's cheaper than in the US. Paying for services is a regular thing. My taxes pay for roads, sidewalks, cops, firemen, and other services that I don't have to micromanage myself. I just want to include health insurance in that process.
Jason Ward
>>"Sorry user you need a PhD minimum for this lab slave job" Yup, welcome to my world. The people you actually have to be careful of are those who will accept you as lab slave WITHOUT the PhD because they will lie their ass off to fuck with you and prevent you from doing anything meaningful or having any chance to advance in your career. Really, your only choice is to get a PhD (like I'm doing), or make your own company (greatly recommend if you have the freedom to do so now, it looks great on a CV too).
Xavier Anderson
Like says, but you're exactly the kind of people I thought I would be working with and exactly the kind of people I want to work with and am mad as hell to find out don't really exist in employment.
Cameron Adams
You've never had to deal with public healthcare if you think like that. Protip: you're more likely to die from being seen by public healthcare (assuming you even get seen within 2 years for a critical injury) than to heal on your own from a bullet wound.
Anthony Lewis
My colleagues are fine, I had to pass the same interview as them too, they're not just hiring people off street. You're just a seething cuckold.
>Is laughing. But posts a picture of a man who lived of the back of a patsy for his whole life.
Tyler Edwards
I don't agree. I think it's much easier to train people than to look for """perfect""" (meaning stuck frozen and unable to change their incorrect knowledge) candidates and never train. I think people who don't know are usually more willing to learn because people who know will usually feel belittled when taught. All in all, I would love to work with uneducated people who've never programmed before even though I know half of them will have to be fired or changed to a different role.
Joseph Phillips
>cheaper yeah but not better.
Aaron Ross
>My colleagues are all just as useless as I am FTFY. Makes it easier on them at least >You're just a seething cuckold. If it makes you feel better about slaving away for fast food wages in a concrete shithole, insult away friend. You're no danger to the mutts as you are.
Yeah, lots of know-nothings think that. The simple truth though is that having knowledge demonstrates the ability to learn and lacking it demonstrates the opposite. Nobody is born knowing this.
Tyler Powell
The difference is that I understand the need to get along with coworkers and so I don't act like a jackass at work, just in anonymous comments online.
Aiden Myers
Have you asked any people from countries with single payer about the paperwork they need to deal with?
Cooper Gray
Guys, I decided back when I was 16 I wasn't going to waste my time working with IT to put bread on the table.
>learn metal work >specialize in a field, cnc for example, it's just pathing and numbers >people at metal workshops are generally stupid af, and hire you even if you take heroin at the interview >become the "smart guy" >sooner or later be known at the company as guy who can solve IT-problems >your job turns mroe into doing a lot of real easy IT-support >get praised for saving company >don't get scolded for not figuring something out - "we'll get support for that"
5 years later nobody knows what you do exactly but you're cashing out as much money as the managers because nobody else understands anything about the systems you helped the company implement
Ryder Scott
im no danger to anyone unlike niggers you have to swim through on your day to work keep coping about what I do and who I work with if it makes you feel any better
I'm friends with some britbongs. They say no paperwork.
From what I've heard, it's great for standard care and emergency care, mediocre for ongoing non-urgent conditions.
William Lewis
Yeah, but WHO are you supposed to be socializing with to get these kinds of connections?
Mason Walker
Apply to a major tech company and ace your technicals
Daniel James
literary everyone
Brandon Myers
But most people are vapid, and also unlikely to have necessary connections.
Dominic Wood
You don't need to hang out with your coworkers outside of work. But you need to be able to get along with them AT work. Figure out what you're doing that triggers a response from your interviewer that you can't do that.
Julian Ramirez
you don't know who's uncle works at x and is "a nice guy, i'll get you his number"
Gavin Sanders
Seconding this. Some random girl I talked to in college a few times recommended me for BigTechCoInc after she got in, so I got an interview despite having a sub-3.0 GPA. I got the job and it made my career (and probably made her $5k-$10k but good for her).
Jose Howard
t. never held a job
Andrew Turner
It's great for emergency care in the sense you will get seen for free for e.g. a car crash (actually not free, in many 'free' healthcare systems you still get charged for ambulance service and drugs as prescribed after being saved). For normal care, if it's anything more complicated than a cold, forget it. And if it's a cold, why are you even looking to see a healthcare practitioner? Keep in mind that if you're trying to tell if it's a cold or not, they'll say it's a cold regardless of if it is. Mediocre is a significant understatement for non-urgent conditions. Criminally negligent if you're lucky, more like. Even for just slightly less-than-urgent (e.g. deep cut but not life critical) care. Imagine you have constant pain in a shoulder. If you could see a doctor within 3 months, you could be cured forever. However with public healthcare, because constant debilitating pain is not urgent, you won't be seeing anyone for 10 years (personal experience). At the end of this, you get a botched surgery that reduces your movement range significantly and only reduces the pain slightly, except the condition will degenerate again after a few years of making sure you minimize use of that shoulder anyway. Faster otherwise. Also the surgery permanently damaged your bicep because the surgeon - who had over 30 years of experience and is widely regarded as one of the best in the country - is incompetent. For regular care, imagine your eye doctor telling you you have perfect vision in both eyes after you managed to get an appointment months from the time you needed one, when in fact you lost all eyesight in one eye after some ice hit it, and said eye had reduced vision in the first place. I literally do not know a single person who has had to deal with public healthcare and came out without being messed up somehow, let alone healed.
Nolan Carter
marx was either a retard with no knowledge of human biology or a sociopathic genius who knew retards would fall for communism and designed it so communism would collapse into the idea state for sociopathic takeover on purpose
Brayden Thompson
boy, metal work is crazy. Toxic shit in the air. Your gums will rot out, listen to me boy