Here is an interview with Richard Stallman about a range of free software topics including GPLv3 and comment on the Microsoft patent issue. Stallman has a go at Linus Torvalds even suggesting that if people want to keep their freedom they better not follow Torvalds. From the interview:
“The fact that Torvalds says “open source” instead of “free software” shows where he is coming from. I wrote the GNU GPL to defend freedom for all users of all versions of a program. I developed version 3 to do that job better and protect against new threats. Torvalds says he rejects this goal; that’s probably why he doesn’t appreciate GPL version 3. I respect his right to express his views, even though I think they are foolish. However, if you don’t want to lose your freedom, you had better not follow him.“
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Richard Stallman: Don’t Follow Linus Torvalds
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stallman is retard and linus is cool even though linux is for nerds
Pajeet, you're supposed to keep your mouth shut. And why do you think linus is cool??
Linus didn't even want to be free, and open source, and only decided to when he realized that he could not have competed.
He doesn't care about Free Software (as in free as in free speach, and not as in free, as in free beer). Linus also does not care about security, and anonymity AT ALL!
Harrumph!
Laugh all you want for Stallman but as with Privacy issues he's right here too
Linus is and always has been a self-serving ego-driven guy..
linus is a SJW's cuckhold
>bitching about the man who made you
Buddy it's the way the world works presently, you have to pretend to be PC so the SJWs don't throw a tantrum and cause you a headache. It's completely wrong and I have no clue how much longer it can last but Linus is focussed on keeping Linux development going smoothly.
>2018
>Listening to the footman
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Linus publicly says one of his biggest mistakes was using the GPL
>Linus publicly says one of his biggest mistakes was using the GPL
Things that have never happened.
There is literally nothing wrong with franchising software. Stallman wants everything to be free because he's a lazy bum and has bought into the hippie boomer lie of "dooood just share everything and give it all away man, just let everything be for free maaaan, y'knooow?"
>LinusTechTips fucking BTFO by Stallman
rip linux sebastian
>*confuses free and liberty*
Anglos were a mistake
That’s not what Stallman means by free.
Stallman is a dumb nigger who should pick better words for his extremist bullshit.
>wanting for people not to be data mined by every piece of software they use
>extremist
I wish every developer was as extremist as this.
>Gets caught up semantics and doesn't understand the larger point of the text
This desu
Put the goalposts back Tyrone
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>Stallman is a dumb nigger who should pick better words for his extremist bullshit
It's not his fault that there are no better words in English
There are, his vocabulary just sucks.
Libre
>Linus didn't even want to be free, and open source
uwotm8
In the original licence he used before the GPLv2 Linus even prohibited money changing hands because idealistic poorfag student
Lol, what fucking nonsense, he says the GPLv2 is the perfect licence for Linux because it embodies what he think open-source software should be about — "I give you source code, you give me your changes back"
1. Not English
2. Libre has the same problem. Pic related
Stallman is always right
He's doing it on purpose. Guy gets a boner for talking about semantic bullshit for hours. He's on the spectrum and wants his listeners to suffer. You basically want to take away his favorite toy.
I guess I better eat scabs from my feet now.
>user groups
Wew, what a time warp
>shows where he is coming from.
Look who's sponsoring Linus, Linux foundation. Now look the board of directors of LF and you'll realize whose bitch Linus really is.
Open source is just a facade for the gullible
Libre doesnt have the same problem because its not every day English that is immediately associated with money by any normal person who hears it.
It's not as gross as drinking Pepsi, so go for it.
reminder that stallman shills the nsa backdoors which is systemd
reminder that stallman is a pawn of freedesktop.org, who is his biggest ""donator""
know the masters and you'll know the slaves
osnews is garbage
>reminder that stallman shills the nsa backdoors which is systemd
He's forced to accept systems, because it is in fact open source.
It doesn't mean that I have to though.
I'll have to disagree with you on that one.
>Put the goalposts back Tyrone
Which "goalposts"?
>huu, he a dum nigger man
Yeah, fascinating.
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Pepsifags are disgusting.
Cokeniggers are worse
>which goalposts
Just how stupid are you? Jesus
>ego-driven
this was a feature.
Its only recently after someone started spiking his food with onions that he became a hyper beta virtue signalling loser.
OSnews isn't the sauce of the interview, you muppet
Oops, I screenshot wrong part of the wiki article. Looks like "libre" became a word in English after stallman founded fsf. How was he supposed to use it in the first place? Not his fault freedom and money are so closely correlated in (((English)))
>Just how stupid are you?
You're not smart enough to quantity my intelligence looser. Cokeniggers on suicide watch, ha.
>Eugenia Loli
>eugenia loli
>euGenia lOLi
>GOL
>LOG
>Just how stupid are you?
>You're not smart enough to quantity my intelligence looser. Cokeniggers on suicide watch, ha.
>There is literally nothing wrong with franchising software. Stallman wants everything to be free because he's a lazy bum and has bought into the hippie boomer lie of "dooood just share everything and give it all away man, just let everything be for free maaaan, y'knooow?"
Wow, what sophistication and profundity. Great words man. I don't think you even know what you're talking about.
>I don't think you even know what you're talking about.
You don't even know what you think I think that I'm even talking about. You dirty cokebaboon.
>GNUtils suck and are bloated
>GNOME is a shitty tablet DE, hogs RAM and is more concerned with tranny politics
>GNU Hurd doesn't even work
>GNU Emacs now integrates with Google Drive and systemDick
>want to turn GNU Emacs into a shitty Libreoffice clone
>GIMP has a horrible interface and half the functionality of Photoshop.
>Libreboot only works with Dino-hardware and actively funds genito-rectal mutilation.
If you want good software, stop following Stallman. What good is freedom if you can't do anything with it?
> hurr durr proprietary shill
I like freedom, but at this point it should be evident that a free world shouldn't be in the hands of an ex-MIT nigger jew that lives off donations and whose greatest contribution is writing some Garbage Nigger Utilities he didn't even design.
FUCK GNU.
FUCK THE FSF.
AND FUCK STALLMAN.
Why do people call stallman a Jew if he fights for your freedom?
but without linus and his kernel there would be no RMS, and therefore no GNU GPL.
>coreutils is bloated
dood it's like 14 mb.
>Why do people call stallman a Jew if he fights for your freedom?
Because this whole hacker "Jow Forums" has a heavily limited list of insults.
His fight isn't about you getting your freedom, it's about HIM getting it for you. Everything not GNU is a No in his book.
Source?
>listening to a communist
>Author: Eugenia Loli
Nice name :^)
I don't use emacs. what is this drama all about?
He literally said the opposite.
>Making Linux GPL'd was definitely the best thing I ever did.
Stallman does not "shill" systemd. He simply states that he has no problems with it since it's free software.
It may be shit from a technical point of view, but it's not his main concern.
The fact that it's being shoved in many distributions is another story, but that has to do with the company behind systemd, not the software itself.
Because he literally is a Jew, memes aside.
>ex-programmer
How can there be such a thing? Is it even possible to "forget" how, after being even somewhat capable.
>2007
They have both moderated their stances since then.
I don't see what the problem here is, rms doesn't have to include anything he doesn't want in GNU Emacs. If you don't like it you can use one of the 100 forks that include other non-GNU packages.
The problem is thinking that not giving total control to GNU over your Emacs package is somehow undermining GNU packages.
His goal is to push GNU, of course he would think that. You don't have to feel the same way. He can't stop you from making your non-GNU packages.
I know, but don't pretend it's because of freedom, which is what the thread, and the post, is about.
Are you really that surprised that maintaining free software also requires making decisions about what not to include? If they accepted every patch and every package then the program would go to shit.
>free as in freedom
>creator is actively withholding software that otherwise fits the mantra
Hmmmmm
>free software means you have to accept my patch whether you like it or not
No
Emacs is great because of packages not in the main repository. Somehow this is undermining GNU to the point where he says Emacs devs must fight back. It is not because of code quality, or maintaining free software free, but about Stallman being so much of a sperg to not realize having to do paperwork to include your package in Emacs does not belong in a free worl, and calling anathema on anyone who points this out. What Stallman wants is having free software live under a single entity to ensure "freedom", to the exclusion of everyone else.
This violates freedom 0.
I'll repeat, he can reject your package from his archive for any reason he wants. Use a different package archive if you want different ones, or make your own, then you can reject packages for any reason you want.
??
Like a drone.
Sorry user but this isn't /v/, complaining and whining won't get you what you want here.
you're completely missing the point. I'm not disputing whether Stallman can or can't reject Emacs packages because of whatever reasons, I'm criticizing the specific reasons he brings up, and the mindset behind them. Such a mindset is harmful to technological advancement as a whole, undermining the software part of free software, and calls into question Stallman's assertion in the OP. If you won't get freedom by following Linus Torvalds, you won't get software either by following Richard Stallman.
And I'm here to tell you it doesn't matter what reasons they choose because there is more free software out there than just linux and emacs, and even if there wasn't you could still fork them. Yeah you could waste your time going on the mailing list arguing with rms why he should accept your package (he won't because he is a fat stubborn cunt) or you can not be a dumbass and realize that it doesn't actually affect you or your freedom.
Why bother replying then, if your opinion is just "it doesn't matter", to a thread about Stallman saying "it does matter"? Do you also go to Jow Forums to say "who cares about guns"? You waved your hand at the topic, now move along.
Because he is still right that Torvalds is a chump. rms is a fag but at least he won't accept a proprietary blob in emacs.
>accepts Google drive integration into TRAMP
Yikes.
>linus is an SJW
What the fuck do you think Stallman is? He's all the way to the extreme left. If he could lift his fat fucking belly he'd beat people over his communist principles. Linus is just a pushover. Stallman genuinely believes in all of that stupid crap.
Linus is too based for the fat jew
Using free software such as tramp to access google drive provides no loss of freedom, in fact it frees you from having to use google's proprietary client. It could potentially be a privacy issue but so is any remote storage, obviously don't store sensitive files there.
He is a socialist Bernie lover, not communist. Linus voted for Hillary.
>Voted Hillary, Signed CoC, pooteringed himself
>Based
Well, Torvalds never said he was into sharing code because of freedom or any ideological reason, he was into it because it is what he likes to do (or at least used to like). I don't think he gives a shit about freedom, even nowadays, and he uses "open source" instead of "free software" besause he doesn't want to be associated with FOSS zealot behaviour.
I use free software whenever I can and like the idea behind it, but Richard Stallman and FSF will not be enough to defend it. At least some FOSS zealots must mature from flag-waving enthusiasts to professionals bring value to business and society, through the freedoms of FOSS.