Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2400G - Consider IF on sale >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and Vega 56 are standard choices >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
When the fuck should I update my PC? I have NO idea what the fuck is going on right now in terms of processors. I just need a new mobo and a new processor. Holy fuck.
James Butler
DUDE RAZERRRRRRRR
Jeremiah Russell
Best place to buy GPUs online? I hear people say not to buy from newegg
Nathan Edwards
Gamers Rule.
Brandon Morales
Are failure issues with the RTX series serious enough to put off buying the 2080 ti until the kinks are worked out?
Justin Cook
if you need something now then buy now
Nolan Peterson
>I hear people say not to buy from newegg why not?
Aaron Jones
imagine having a son like this haha
Landon Green
is this where the boomer monster ultra meme came from?
Connor Hall
AMD has a solid situation, Intel does not Post-CES we should be seeing news on their 7nm and 10nm products (probably more on 7nm though) Doesn't matter, just do whatever PCPartPicker says is best for your model
Not terrible, but you can definitely do better for cheaper if you're in a country with good stock. If you don't have as many options, it's alright. Example build (tried to keep it similar): de.pcpartpicker.com/list/bbYrsZ So you're saying you don't have any of this yet? Why would you get a 1700X? Why would you buy everything from Amazon at a higher cost? Overpriced motherboard btw
How much did your complete build cost? Would about $2500 be overkill for a complete setup? Meaning PC, Monitor, keyboard, mouse etc?
Brody Phillips
No.
Leo Ward
Building that example build where I live would cost: 1441 € + 85 for case if it doesnt fit inside my existing one SSD and PSU not counted in as I already have those.
Noah Morris
Lads, what's the best budget (around 100-200 euro) freesync monitor for a rx580
for gaming btw
Sebastian Hill
Depends Mechanical keyboards and wireless mice can cost a lot, meaning your PC would be more reasonable I would never buy a 9900K or 2080 Ti though Where Do You Live Why does nobody ever specify
Should I be waiting for the new processor announcements before I do anything? I just need a new fucking processor and a new mobo but my goal is to do a large upgrade so I won't have to do it again for a long time.
Luke Kelly
>Should I be waiting Yes.
Charles Phillips
Haven't bought anything aside from what I specified. I realize Mobo is overpriced but I was thinking x470 would be better for OCing the 1700x >1700x Is a lot cheaper than a 2700x and I figure a good OC would make it much better performance/$ >Amazon I'm not worried too much about 5-$10 differences especially since these all have prime shipping
Aaron Harris
>Anyway, it's essential to have B- or E-die for memory overclocking or you probably won't get very far, especially on AMD. I'm not interesting in manually overclocking my RAM but everywhere has people saying that you need 3000+mhz for Ryzen. Is there actually a significant enough performance benefit to double the price? I could nearly buy a 1TB SSD for games for that price.
Matthew Brooks
Is a Ryzen 5 2600 a worthy upgrade from a i5-2500k?
Jose Richardson
Fuck guys I plugged everything in, the fans spin and the lights light up but it's not displaying. Tried it with HDMI and VGA. I'm using a B350m with a ryzen 2200g, running off integrated graphics, no GPU
Josiah Price
I need a bit of a hand guys I've been out of the game for a while,
I'm putting to gather a totally new pc, I'm gona be going 2nd hand for the most part because I'm a poorfag, I've found a 1080ti for £470 (not bad for a britfag) along with a d15 cheapo case and m2& hd combo, but I'm just Trying to work out the CPU and MB situation atm what do you guys recommend? I was planning to go with something last gen for second hand market avalibitity but I want to know what you all think. Thanks
Caleb Brooks
It's a $40 difference on the processor and $20 on the PSU, this is not just pennies If you want purely price/performance, do this: pcpartpicker.com/list/Qhhq8Y Yes What is your budget?
newegg is solid. newegg's outlet thing has slow ass shipping but the prices are good. B&H or whatever they're called took fucking forever to ship my shit, would not use again. Amazon is usually cheap enough that, if you have prime, it's actually best to go through them for a lot of stuff once you factor in shipping fees.
Ian Hughes
>210 for 1700x fuck no you can get that for 150.
Daniel Rogers
Does anyone use a Meshify C? How are the temps? I see that it has a plate to mount SSDs behind the mobo/CPU. Doesn't that make the SSDs really hot? I'm concerned the CPU and SSDs will both be running at high temps being back-to-back like that.
Christian Powell
IPS is better for sure but VA isn’t bad. With VA you get the blur effect in games when you turn the camera around quickly. It really doesn’t look terrible, it actually does look like an intentional motion blur effect, but IPS is smooth as fuck and looks better. If you’re going to spend a lot, go with IPS. If you’re trying to save some cash, VA isn’t much of a compromise.
Joshua White
I really have no clue where finland orders from, but if you don't need the extra stuff just get the things you need from my list (or ones similar to it) The only SSDs that get hot are NVMe, which always have to be on the motherboard
Does your motherboard have a led diagnostic, it should be displaying a POST code if it fails to boot.
Jaxson Johnson
It's great for stock and small overclocks A D15 is great for big overclocks, but these are entirely different uses. 1nm is physically impossible for silicon, and probably impossible for other semiconductors Also, processors barely go down in power usage per-transistor anymore, they just have more transistors. A 1nm processor wouldn't be that much better than 3nm, which is technically possible. Maybe the BIOS is outdated Check that everything is plugged in right
>!!CES Jan. 8 - 11. Strong advisory to buy after CES announcements!! what did he mean by this?
Nathan Morales
Also, make sure your RAM is in the correct slots (both in A2 and B2, check the motherboard manual). Try taking one stick out, and booting with only one at a time to make sure it's not faulty RAM.
Evan Gray
Gonna go out on a tard limb here
What do I need to have plugged in?
I've plugged in everything for the panel, the CPU, the CPU fan, the motherboard power, the other fan powered on, the hard drive plugged in
I've tested it with both VGA + HDMI
the problem is there is literally no display
does ram need to be hooked up to display? Will the computer display without RAM? Sorry im a total fuckin tare
Anthony Long
All I see in that pic is a kid that is going to face his ignorance of the real world when he leave high school / college
His parents perpetuated it too
Daniel Ross
AMD is going to fuck Intel bareback without lube. Going in dry and hungry.
>does ram need to be hooked up to display? Yes, and in the correct slots. There should be 4 slots, yes? Have you carefully read your motherboard manual to ensure you put them in the right slots?
Also, relax. Don't panic. Your system isn't fucked, you just need to calmly trouble shoot it until it works.
Adrian Cruz
Someone justify for me why I should upgrade? I don't play anything demanding anymore besides maybe Arma 3, why should I spend the money unless something dies out? I was considering just replacing GPU with a 580, but I mean is it even worth it if I don't play much of anything anymore?
>what are the implications of this for somebody looking to build now? Prices on preexisting hardware will most likely go down in price, and new products being revealed that might be better value then what you're looking at now.
Austin Richardson
>Massively overpriced hardware >Lots of known issues What do you think.
Liam Murphy
>I really have no clue where finland orders from Why were you so rude when you asked for their country if was, like always, to do absolutely nothing with that info, then?
David Gray
I put the RAM slot in the slot it marked as DIMM 1 so I'm pretty sure it's in the right place. I'm going to remove it and see if it'll post
Leo Davis
Do you have 1 ram only?
Elijah Howard
B450 or X470 for a 2700x?
Wyatt Stewart
Yes, 8gb stick of DDR4
unfortunately the computer doesn't beep when booted with no RAM like it should, so that further complicates things.
Justin Allen
X470, especially because of future-proofing for the upcoming Zen 2 CPUs
Brayden Torres
How safe is liquid cooling? Will it ever leak?
Joshua Watson
I do have the mini. I have 6 fans (2 intakes and 3 exhausts) the SSD's temps are in the image too. the highest temps i had were 48C but i live in the Caribbeans and my room temperature can reach up to 36C
>AMD has a solid situation, Intel does not what a pathetic & compulsive lying shill. their situation is not solid at all and STILL CAN'T COMPETE WITH INTEL > but muh AMD has 120,000 cores and not ONE of them can perform as well as intel's.. where it FUCKING MATTERS.
AMD BTFO YET AGAIN
Kayden Smith
If you were really confused I would probably try to help but at this point you know the system better than I do so there isn't a point to it I am curious though, where does Finland buy from? Probably the whole thing once you feel comfortable with the purchase Only thing worth keeping is the SSD X470 for sure
AIO's usually don't, but it's not unheard of for it to happen. Usually, the AIO manufacturer is pretty good about reimbursing you for the mobo or GPU if it gets damaged while under warranty.
As for custom loops, if you do a shit job, of course it can leak.
Liam Watson
mmm normally a pc won't post because of ram (maybe outdated bios) and you shouldn't have one stick only, you should go with 2
Brandon Flores
it's not safe at all and is absolutely fucking useless. consider it a meme. a decent size cooler is all you need. stop recommending cancerous and expensive solutions that are nothing more that pure bullshit for dumb cunts. > says an AMD SHILL AMD BTFO FOR ETERNITY
okay, that could be good, because I've been looking at doing a budget 1080p60 AMD build. I'll hold fire for now
Lincoln Wilson
I have an 8700 you Intel shill, however I recognize that Zen 2 is going to BTFO Intel. And since I'm not loyal to any brand, I'm perfectly fine with that.
Dominic Torres
specs look good. price isn't too bad either.
Charles Diaz
Seems pretty solid to me user. Good price too
Michael Foster
I should have two sticks, I don't NEED two. My bigger problem is the computer won't display. What could be loose? I reseeted the motherboard power and CPU power already
Ayden Sullivan
How does this look? I am a little worried about the giant ass fan though not having room. pcpartpicker.com/list/tVqk3b
Owen Baker
Why are you using Yagi's art as an avatar?
Mason Watson
Thanks for posting temps, seems like it's no problem them.
Dylan Stewart
you need two for dual channel, it could be 2 sticks of 4gb ram for a total of 8gb.
my advice is to check everything again, including the manuals, see if your components really are compatible using pcpartpicker, check the psu if it has enough energy and finally check out if you need to update your bios but for this you'll need to test the mobo with other components.
Kevin Long
> however I recognize that Zen 2 is going to BTFO Intel things that will never happen
Samuel Lopez
user, breadboard it. Go part by part.
Christian Price
I live in a country with 10 months of hellish temps and it never got past 40c with fewer fans than it has now so yeah, it's really good with temps. just keep it clean every few months.
It's cheap, you get the basics and a somewhat mediocre but not terrible 4-phase VRM PCPartPicker checks for heatsink compatibility, it's fine A 9700K is unnecessary here, you could use a 2600 and get the same performance. Also your PSU isn't anything amazing. I would suggest cutting down CPU/motherboard and investing in more SSD space Intel has no 10nm release date, it could be next year for all we know AMD has the all clear for free money at this point
I haven't really got a fixed budget, I want to stay around the 1000-1200 Mark. But I'm probably going to be trying vr soon so I may go higher if recommended
I'm manly focused on just not bottle necking the 1080ti. I've been thinking of going with the amd 2600
Caleb Brown
I'm guessing that glows in the dark. And is running Debian.
Jaxson Sanchez
48c*
Daniel Brooks
I would look for the Noctua's RAM height clearance and see if yoir RAM has enough space. Also, 500 W Bronze seems like pretty little to me user.
Elijah Wilson
>Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found. its ok
Mason Young
I like Yagi's art, it would make for a good avatar, but using avatars is [spoiler]AGAINST THE RULES[/spoiler]
Nicholas Cook
>you could use a 2600 and get the same performance