>Jow Forums tells me pure ALSA is all I need and that Pulseaudio is bloat
>cant even control volume per application
Jow Forums tells me pure ALSA is all I need and that Pulseaudio is bloat
Jeremiah Clark
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Justin Diaz
Honestly the per-application volume control was one of the better things Microsoft has done in the last 20 years
Nolan Lopez
Pulseaudio is dying. Pipewire is going to be the new hotness for GNU/Linux audio (even Pulseaudio devs think so).
Michael Turner
i've never actually wanted that
Adrian Kelly
use KDE
Adam Scott
typical
>thing that vast majority of userbase uses is """dying""", but thing that no one's ever heard of is takin' over bois look out
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Michael Perez
I know, I just felt like bringing it up. It'll be a few years before it'll actually happen.
It's basically something which takes the good parts of JACK, and the good parts of PA, and merges them together, as well as doing the same type of thing for videos.
Justin Edwards
yeah pure alsa is a retarded meme
Caleb Phillips
I hope they do away with that stupid server model.
William Gutierrez
oh scratch that. looks like they want to add even more bloat
PipeWire is a project that aims to greatly improve handling of audio and video under Linux. It aims to support the usecases currently handled by both PulseAudio and Jack and at the same time provide same level of powerful handling of Video input and output. It also introduces a security model that makes interacting with audio and video devices from containerized applications easy, with supporting Flatpak applications being the primary goal. Alongside Wayland and Flatpak we expect PipeWire to provide a core building block for the future of Linux application development.
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Leo Adams
Something privileged needs direct access to the hardware and to apply policy control, so that's still there
Matthew Foster
That is a bloated functionality, if you need it use pulse
>Boy that was hard
Jose Collins
>the most basic of features is "bloat"
Sebastian Bennett
I don't think you know what basic means, or all the things asla already does, so your opinion is meaningless.
Plus you're probably a retard :^)
Luis Long
ALSA is shit. PulseAudio is unironically better.
The real best audio is OSS though
Michael Howard
pavucontrol?
Blake Butler
Volume per application is crap I don't need, but I use pulse on my laptop since it can actually handle switching audio devices much better.
Jason Gonzalez
>PulseAudiovucontrol
Nathaniel Nguyen
>PulseAudioVolumeUnitcontrol
Julian Allen
was stuck on the U, thanks user!
Jaxson Fisher
are you kidding? it's terrible
>move master to 50%
>it slide every other apps to 50%
>move one app to 100%
>it bump the master to 100% too but not the other apps.
>slide down the master down to 50%
>every other apps are now at 25%
I want the audio mixer act like a real mixing console, where individual channels volumes are relative to the master volume, and not absolute. Because 50% of 50% should be 25%.
Caleb Peterson
is ASIO available on Linux yet?
Jacob Hall
Wtf are you bitching about, that you can optionally install that very same feature, provided by pulseaudio, but the fact that you can choose and its not forced on you is bad?
Jaxson Myers
Yeah men per-application system volume is such a basic and important thing, I use it on a daily basis.
Hold 9 or 0 on mpv to lower or increase volume. Done.
Kayden Nelson
Linux don't need good audio features because Linux is a server OS
fite me
Juan Cook
You make a dmix pcm with some slave pcm devices and have every application use their own one, then control them with alsamixer. There, soundmixing with having a massive fucking server running and adding latency and aids.
Aaron Rogers
Pretty interesting that you got ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) running on Windows user...
Nice b8.
Jack Lee
its just to show that Windows has had this feature for years
Dominic Morales
But Pulseaudio finally works now. Are they trying to fix the latency problem? That would be nice, then audio autists wouldn't have to go through the trouble to set up JACK.
Caleb Perry
>Are they trying to fix the latency problem?
As far as I'm aware, that is one of the big reasons. I've seen some performance comparisons, where Pipewire was significantly more efficient than Pulseaudio, especially at lower latencies.
It originally started as "Pulseaudio, but for video", but then they decided they may as well try audio too.