Enrolled in CS because people told me it doesn't require any high level math

Calculus is easy

but that doesn't mean you don't need to study and learn the new concepts

you can't just go to take an exam and pass just by figuring it out

and if you can't learn new simple concepts to pass a class, then you should look for another career

working with software always requires you to learn new stuff, you'd be amazed with actually how little of what your learn at university is actually used on work

youtu.be/avZTQgLs064?t=370

Did I got meme'd by this guy then?

>CS isn't just codemonkey training

Also if CS courses don't use calculus, then why the fuck I have to do 4 courses of calculus.

The typical BS CS degree looks like this

>Fall 1
CS: Intro to Programming in JS
Math: Basic Computation
IT: Fundamentals of IT
English: Basic Writing 100

>Spring 1
CS: Intro to Programming in Python
CS: Website Design
Math: College Algebra
English: College Writing 101

>Fall 2
CS: Intro to Programming in Java
CS: Discrete Mathematics 1
Math: Precalculus 1
History: Women, LGBT, and African Liberation throughout the Ages

>Spring 2
CS: Intro to Object Oriented Programming
CS: Android App Design
CS: Discrete Mathematics 2
Math: Precalculus 2

>Fall 3
CS: Intro to System Programming in C
CS: Software Engineering
Math: Calculus 1
IT: Database Administration

>Spring 3
CS: Intro to Programming in Lisp (with SICP)
CS: Network Programming
Math: Calculus 2
ExSci: Dealing with Obesity for Diabetics

>Fall 4
CS: Intro to Programming in C++
CS: Data Structures and Algorithms
Math: Matrices and Linear Transformations
Econ: Micro-Economics

>Spring 4
CS: Mastering the Job Interview
CS: Intro to AI through Games
Econ: Macro-Economics from the Communist Perspective
Fashion: The Art of Hiding Early Male Pattern Baldness

INDIAN TUTORIALS PLEASE SAVE MY COURSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING

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Every STEM degree requires math, you brainlet. CS math is still babby tier.

It's a filter. don't worry tho, after these every CS course is a joke.

I wouldn't trust anyone who couldn't complete undergrad calculus to work on a large software application...

>t. brainlet

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Calculus ain't that bad my dude, once you've done any given thing once you've done it a thousand times, just get lots of practice and speak to your lecturers if you get stuck

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Math isn't as hard as people make it out to be, and I guarantee you have the ability to learn it. The problem is people don't learn (or retain) earlier concepts and really starts to compound when you get to calculus. If you don't understand the underlying basics then it's just an intimidating mountain of terms and equations you don't understand

Start from the bottom, relearn the basics and you'll see just how easy math can be. It's when you get into true upper tiers of theory and proofs that it genuinely does start taking dedication and intelligence

christ and I thought MY university was teaching me convoluted bullshit

To be fair "computer science" is a stupid hipster-ish title. There's no "building science", there is structural engineering, there is not "car science", there is automobile engineering.

Only computer engineering should exist no "computer science".

If you want to do "computer science" that is not engineering you do literal math.

What would you actually call it though? Computer maths?

Anyone else /forever student/ here?

I'm on my 9th year of computer science. My country has free university education and they don't kick you out.

I'm burned out by it, the lack of socialising, friends and girls in CS. Haven't stepped in my faculty in 3 years but I still sign up for classes every semester.

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>js, webshit, OOP
>IT fundamentals = learning to use a terminal?
>android
What is this shit? I already know how to program in multiple languages including C, and understand the basic concepts of CS. So if I were to go to school, I would have to slog through this nonsense?

top kek.

I told you computer engineering is literally what most current "computer science" courses are anyway. They some math but they also do a lot of practice and a general mix of a lot of things, that the general gist of the mix of modules in all engineering courses in the world.

If you want to do something more "sciency" that is not engineering and it is about computers, you do literal math alone. You could gravitate a lot more on math that is for computing but who gives a fuck, all math uses computers too anyway so it's not special.

How about PL theory like type systems?
Just "math." You would choose certain classes, like discrete math, linear algebra, and logic.

Somebody out there is paying 10k a semester for this bullshit

Reminder discreet, calc, linear algebra, and graph theory are all high school level maths and shouldn't be considered "hard" math in a degree.

> How about PL theory
That's still part of engineering courses in the more mature fields. e.g. structural engineering undergraduates do some more practical things but when they are Phds or on research in general they may go deeper in some more theoretical and innovative stuff.

"Computer science" is a stupid pretentious title that should never have existed. It's like calling automotive engineers "car scientists".

>calculus
>high level

Most CS classes nowadays are really just software engineering courses.

I think I get it. "Computer science" could only really work for a PhD, for example.

My CS program is 2 levels of Calc, Linear Algebra, and Stats. I thought that was standard

I'm not talking about courses. I'm talking about the field called computer science which is really just math, as you said.

Well then what would you call the subset of math that we are talking about? Do you realize that we NEED name?

There's no need. Other fields understand very well when you PhD or in research in general, being called an "engineer" doesn't mean you are on a regular design work, you are on research pushing the boundaries and that mean mostly math.

They have no need to change their title from engineer to "scientist".

What the fuck does that even mean? It's literally childish.

american education ladies and gents

What is taught in calc 4 at your schools? Mine only went up to 3 which was multivariable calc

Wanna know a secret? Nobody gives a fuck in the real world what degree you have.

>No "Interdisciplinary: Personal Grooming and Hygiene"

I'm disappointed. Even /sci/'s version had that.

Women's university?

then do 4 courses of calculus
attend the classes and you'll be fine

>Haven't stepped in my faculty in 3 years but I still sign up for classes every semester.
Wut?

IT doesnt require math and CS does. They get the same exact jobs so i did IT no regrets

I feel bad not signing up for my remaining 4 classes to get the degree. If I don't, I would have accepted that I'm never finishing the course.

Now I'm clinging on

What country man. Finland?

>tfw exam in 3 days and have to review 6 months worth of [spoiler]Java[/spoiler] in that timespan
I fucked up.

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Are you really so retarded you didn't look at the degree course requirements before singing up? Are you so stupid as to believe engineering and science don't require math? Just KYS now, because you'll find the real world is a bitch when you are as incompetent as you are.

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Been there, thinking that "3 days was still ok"
it was never ok
procrastination should be turned into an official disorder

>History: Women, LGBT, and African Liberation throughout the Ages

FUCK WOMEN
FUCK LGBT
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK JANNIES

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greece, I'm the guy with the 4-salaries-to-get-a-thinkpad

Does Finland also have indefinite free university?

My B.Sci. MIS degree required calculus 1, stats, and finite math.

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>The Art of Hiding Early Male Pattern Baldness
So true

It is. ADD

I lied in my degree was information technology and computer science and i had to take calculus for business, descrete math, and i took graph theory as well

>calculus
>high level
And you were dumb for believing that obvious lie

Graph theory and Calculative Geometry (am I translating that right?) fucking ruined me.

>you'd be amazed with actually how little of what your learn at university is actually used on work
This is true. The whole reason for that course work is to teach you how to think logically. But guess what? You can learn to think logically without a bunch of maths classes. One way is by programming. Learn logic by doing and figuring out what works best. Learning by solving programming problems is a lot more fun (and retainable) than solving arbitrary math problems that get tossed in the trash as soon as they're graded.

I took calculous for business which just meant easy calculous for dumb asses. Geometry blows

I think in Finland they pay you to go to Uni, but don't think it's indefinite.

Calculus is the easy part
It's not even actual math

Wait until you take your algorithms class

Wait programming needs math? I'm terrible at math.

I was about to take some online C# tutorials as my first language

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Holy fucking based!

>in EE
>took Calc II FOUR times before passing
If I can do it OP I know you can

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Why does everyone on Jow Forums act like first year undergrad Chuunibyou?

Pretty cringe how arrogant all of you are.

I'm a math major, suck my dick OP.

It took me two tries to pass Calc II. Calc III and IV were easy though. I'm an actuary.

Smelly, dumb frogposter scum.

Am I really the only one who simply lied about having a degree?

high effort bait

That isn't high level math. It's the same level of math you need as an engineer.

You are a fucking faggot and I demand to see your high school transcripts.

With C# I doubt you'd run in to much serious math, just basic logic

>pre calculus 2
The fuck?

When you said "Four courses in calculus" I thought you meant Calc 3 + DiffEQ w/ laplace. Not three semesters of Calc 1.

>being this much of a brainlet

>I'm an actuary.
That's what I'm trying to do. Any advice user?

it's a casual filter, I just didn't do any homework till the last time

Calculus is literally a high school subject in the civilized (European) world. It's not arrogance.

Just the head or deep throat?

Thinking calculus is easy for a college student isn't arogant, highly likely most of us took it in junior/senior year of highschool

Calc 1 and 2 are high school level math courses...

>You are a fucking faggot and I demand to see your high school transcripts.
I got a 110% final grade for calculus in high school. It's easy as fuck.

Lol, 2 levels of precalc? What brainlet tier shit is this?

all four courses?

also
>having more than 100% possible
they coddle you guys so much.

my school doesn't even have calculus courses cause it assumes you aren't a brainlet and took your calc in highschool
fucking cope

>they coddle you guys so much.

Welcome to high school

>Assuming everyone needs to take arithmetic and "college" algebra

Is this CS for the football players?

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Why would you go to school to learn something you already know?

It's too bad I'm literally 30 and it's too late to take math and then take a CS course.

It's too late for me. I just wanted a computer job.

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Premium snap-chat is a computer job

What drives people who are bad at math to become actuaries?

>Am I really the only one who simply lied about having a degree?

Nobody ever checks.

>You can learn to think logically without a bunch of maths classes.

Nope.exe

What drives people who are good at math to become actuaries?

Never seen an actuary who was good at math. Most are just passable.

honestly, unless your building some 3D engine or top notch AI, you'll barely use any math.

nigga, no drama.
with 1 month you can prepare yourself for calculus classes - unless your going to shit like MIT or Carnegie Mellon.

The avarage uni math is easily passable.

>with 1 month you can prepare yourself for calculus classe
How?