/pcbg/ - PC Building General

CES tldr
No zen2 announcements
No navi announcements
Vega II (7nm) : 2080 performance for $700

>Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds; click on blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g

Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti
>R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal
>All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p
>GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices
>GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
1440p
>GTX 1070/Ti are standard choices
>RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2080 is the standard choice
>RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>rentry.co/pcbg-more

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so the leaks were bullshit? I waited for nothing?

need help building that PC Jow Forums?

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What a garbage CES. I got shilled and hyped up for literally nothing.

>WAIT UNTIL CES TO BUY A GPU

can I buy my GPU now pls

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Jow Forums is always wrong

i started calling the IO shield 'brace' ever since that video

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Fuck you shills
I missed out of so many special because I was waiting ™ for the new announcements.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

are prices gonna drop now?

>Imagine trusting Jow Forums unironically
kek

Can you help out with your thoughts on the right configuration of three 5¼" bay accessories?

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kind of, but mostly yes


What a dissapointment, another year, another year with my FX 6300

leaks were real

A fufme device.

clearly not

are we watching the same stream?

That's exactly the cope I was expecting to see from amdrones after ces lmao

real my ass

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>No zen2 announcements
Well, then what's this?

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So when should I buy my rx 580?

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>showing 1 ES chip
>real my ass
Lol. The leaks were true. They're using chiplets and there's space for 2nd chiplets

I'm out of the loop, did AMD announce something? Did I miss the stream?
Are there benchmarks?
What's a good source on events like this that don't only show the mainstream stuff?

Where were the 7 chips to be announced at CES? Your cope was showing.

wtf bros i was going to upgrade to ryzen 3 with my tax return cash, i don't want to wait until june

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I told you niggers that wait for x is ALWAYS a meme.

They didn't announce anything worthy
OP's pic sums up the event

Vega 7: on par with 2080 in performance, 2x8 power delivery, 16GB HBM2, 1T bandwidth, $699
In development Ryzen 2 beats stock 9900K in cinebench.
That's about it.

Best Intel CPU and cooler for a 2070? Will use it mainly for video games. Am yuropoor.

That's called a "preview". More coming up at Computex

Where can I buy a cheap RX 580 in the UK? Never waiting on shit ever again

Thanks for proving that the leaks were fake.

...

Last years black friday (I got my dad and my little brother to buy the saphire special edition for £212).. sorry user

Just wait some more™

>one unnamed chip is some how 3300, 3300X, 3600, 3600X, 3700, 3700X and 3800X simultaneous.
The AdoredTV leak was fake. Get over it.

>yfw you waited

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>WAIT FOR COMPUTEX!

so im building a pc for a friend and he has a strict $1500 budget (AUD). He wants to run any game at 60 fps while recording/streaming also for video editing (yeah, I know streaming is gay) and im wondering if the attached picture is any good and where I could improve (BTW im selling 16gb of used DDR4 ram to him for $130 so thats why that is not in the pic)

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So what should we do now? Wait more?

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He pretty much hit on point. They can fit 16 cores on a mainstream CPU, this was proven today. Now what we need to know are prices and CPU models/segmentation.

not like your tax return is gonna come before June

at this point it's only 5 more months wait bros

might as well wait it out

>more speculation that I pulled out of my gaped asshole

Should have paid a bit more attention user. There's traces for a 2nd chiplet on the package.

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Who knows

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>pretty much hit on point
lol no. He specifically said it wasn't going to be a chiplet. It was a chiplet.

>Vega II (7nm) : 2080 performance for $700
So i could buy a Vega II for 700 dollar that "performs as well as a 2080" or i could buy a 2080 for 700 dollar that actually performs as well as a 2080. Why didn't Lisa just pull out a 9mm and ventilate her skull? Much quicker and less painful death than watching AMD playing catch up for yet another GPU gen.

looks like the best move at this point is to wait for a 64 to hit as close to $300 as possible. fuck me for expecting a new mid range card with a die shrink right

>amdrones now resorting to photoshop

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>Speculation
I don't know about you but I watched the presentation, you know.

and 1950X was totally 4 dies right? haha

Look at this guy, watched a presentation and is now an expert in microelectronics

Radeon VII is $700 and you get 16GB HBM VRAM. RTX 2080 is $800 and you get 8GB GDDR6

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was it not?

Yes, actually. Did you forget the 2990WX was a thing?
videocardz.com/72555/there-are-no-dummy-dies-in-ryzen-threadripper

It was 2 dies and 2 disabled dies.

>waited for CES to upgrade my CPU like Jow Forums said
>no fucking Zen 2 announcement
What a load of shit. I'm ordering my 9700K tonight.

I think the important part of the leaks ( competitive clockspeeds, chiplet, many cores, 7nm ) were confirmed: there was space for a third chiplet and it beat 9900k by a little.

The less important part ( exact clockspeeds ) was preliminary even in the fake. They said "coming in mid 2019", just as with the already announced epycs. I think they are either waiting for intel, or the clockspeed-yield factors make ryzen 3rd gen to be late. The 8core demo shows that 7nm and ryzen _can_ reach these speeds, but I think these highly-clocked chips are rare right now.

>2990WX is the same thing as 1950X

Watch the presentation at the end, it's right there. Also, it has been posted all over the thread. I know it hurts you when you look at it, like a rape victim, but you have to accept the cold, hard truth. They can fit 16 cores on a mainstream CPU, and Intel has absolutely NO WAY to compete with this.

oh right, that was the 2nd gen threadripper but still, you're splitting hairs here

>AMD shills all over the internet are on damage control
>thinking they can con people with that fake leak

Still waiting for a sub-75W (bus-powered) upgrade to a dying whiny GTX960
At this point buying 1050Ti seems almost pointless but there's still nothing better. 2050 fucking when?

and they perform exactly the same, yet one is 7nm...

They both have 4 dies. The other 2 are disabled on the 1950X. Neither have dummy dies.

This should be a lesson to everyone, including the scottish faggot, that hyping shit purely based on rumours will lead to disappointment and do more harm than good like currently demonstrated. Never again. Waitfags BTFO. AMDissapointment at it again. Now we'll continue to get assraped by Nshitia and Incel.

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Man vega VII vs 2080 ti is really tough. I'd rather buy AMD but man I dont know if I can handle AMD's opengl drivers much longer

Assumine they're at the same price, which one should I get, a 1060 6GB or a RX580 8GB?

I don't have any money to upgrade anyway so it's not like I have a choice.

>RTX 2080 is $800
If you're going with the luxury models but Gainward and MSI are sitting right at 700.

Assuming*

For shit models with bad cooling and poorly binned chips yeah

>FE is luxury

The RX580 because it has more VRAM and has pretty much the same performance as a 1060

You mean 1150

y...yeah they made the 7nm chip off center for no reason A..AMD shills BTFO

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*opengl blocks ur path*

ABSOLUTE COPE

OMEGALUL 699$ for a gpu AMDrone cucked

You guys ALMOST stayed my hand in buying a 1070ti, but I went ahead and got it, and I’m fucking glad

>imagine falling for the off center die trick the second time
kek

Untill reviewers show a 16 or at least a 12 core at 5GHz outperforming Intel top end I could care less what AMD or anyone else claims.

>vulkans your path

So will the vega 7 be the new 580? People recommend it because it has more vram and is neck and neck with it's competitor but people buy the 2060 anyway.

>>vulkans your path
Yeah, let me see it.

>tfw fell for Ryzen meme
>been wanting to upgrade
>was told to wait for CES because AMD was going to change the world with they 7nm CPU
>waited months
>fuckingnothing.jpg
I guess I can finally abandon this shit CPU now. How does 9700k + 2080 sound? I'm running 144Hz 1080p.

Well the thing is the 2060 is $350 while Vega 7 is $700... Of course, the Vega 7 has 2080 performance, however it's not really competing with the 2060

Can you guys please answer build questions? We have like 10 AMD threads already...

>look at all the proofs
>see?
i don't see jack shit, captain.

yeah i kinda meant to type 2080, i have bad butterfingers.

>fuckingnothing.jpg
You got the info that nothing new will be coming for half a year, which makes your pc good for half a year. I think even that info is worth it if you waited less than 5 months.

Anything over 1070 is fine for that, even vega. No need to overkill with 2080 which is waaaay overpriced and a large overkill for 1080p:
>1080p
>>GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match

AMD = Another MASSIVE Disappointment.
AMDrones on suicide watch.

I have a freesync monitor so I would prefer something overkill to assure 144fps+

Yeah, honestly trash but I'm not sure what I was expecting.

Dude you can literally see that it's shopped or look it up yourself on Anandtech.

>they made the 7nm chip off center for no reason
>theres an IO die for a single chip

t..thanks fellow intelbro t..this is helping me cope

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The writing was on the wall with the 590

RTX 2080 was $800 at launch based retard, so we can expect about $100 less from any given card tier once they all make it to market

If ( and only if) you can find a cheap vega deal, that'd be close to ideal ( but check out how well freesync is supported on your stuff )
Check out some benches on 1080p, hardware unboxed did extensive testing. Afaik at about 1080 perf, framerates capped because cpu bottleneck ( on 9900k ). It might help in making your choice.

Even a 1080Ti is better choice for your case than a 2080 IMO.

Remember, Intel always wins.

Imagine how many CPU they're going to sell in the next few days. All those people who were waiting for Zen 2 only to get a subpar 2080 are finally going to be free of the AMDissapointment curse and go Intel. I know I am.

Is there any company more JUST than amd?