Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >GTX 1070/Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti are standard choices >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
Intel because it's cheaper and will be more powerful. Unless you're doing work with your PC or whatever AMD users do.
Cameron Martin
Still no RTX 2060 mentioned? It's a good card.
Mason Ortiz
Is CAS 15 DDR4 worth the extra 100 bucks? I'm thinking no.
Jayden Garcia
Why does Nvidia's Freesync mode cause flickering and artifacts on the same monitors that work fine with AMD's implementation?
Wyatt Rivera
A $100 premium sounds more like CAS14 3200mhz. If you're on Ryzen and you want another 10fps on a CPU heavy game then that's up to you.
Ethan Powell
Is CAS 16 terrible then?
Nolan Diaz
get a 470/480/570/580 off ebay instead of a new card. there are so many of them out there and cheap because mining has died down. you can get one for like 120$
Justin Gutierrez
I mean amd cards, not the old nvidia 400-500 series
Liam Rivera
I need some advice I'm only intending to game on this computer. Fortnite, tf2, and maybe even the new Doom and Black Ops 4. Well maybe watching porn on it too, but gaming is primary.
I bought these things from a guy off of craigslist for $50. CPU: i5 4570 (1150 socket) RAM: 8gb ddr3 1600mhz 2x120 mm led fans
I have a micro atx circa 2006 case that was in my grandma's closet and 600 watt power supply already. I intend to heavily modify the case to mount more fans by drilling a shit load of ugly holes. I don't care about looks.
1.Is it a good idea to get a really cheap motherboard off of ebay for $10-$15 from a Lenovo, HP or Dell, or should I spend $50-$60 on a newer after market brand Mobo? I can possibly just drill holes in the side of the case to mount an HP or Dell motherboard. I don't give a shit about aesthetics. How important is a motherboard?
2. Should I get a more "futureproof" graphics card like a GTX 1060 3gb? Or should I go the cheap route and get a GTX 660 2 gb? How important is a more new graphics card?
3. i5 4570 benchmark is 7128 If I got a GTX 1060 3gb, would the cpu bottleneck that card?
I see no one ever mentions or considers 2070, are they bad for their price/consumption/something else? They're at just about the limit of what I'm willing to shell out for a new card and I can't see anything wrong with their performance, though I've been under a stone for quite a while and may be missing something. I'm on R9 290 now.
Sebastian Allen
Depends >10 series It's fine as long as you are not paying more for it than the cheapest non-blower cards and you are aware of how loud it is >20 series It's fine as long as you aren't paying more for it than the one of the mid range EVGA cards. FE 20 series cards have a better binned chip which overclocks slightly better and it's kind of complicated to figure out which 3rd party cards dont have the shittier chip in them
Logan Cooper
>finally build my gaming PC >"finally! what should be the first game I play?" >... >go on Jow Forums
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Anthony Hughes
Should I get one of these for a budget backup/gaming build or is there a better integrated graphics CPU available?
Not a "backup gaming PC" specifically, but a backup computer that I can game on if needs be.
Brody Scott
Is it true that 250GB is not really enough for an SSD in a gaming build these days, even if paired with a 2TB HDD?
Adam Cooper
just get a decent laptop then, that way its not only backup, but portable
Henry Robinson
They offer easy access to excellent cooling performance and easy airflow management but the pump will die eventually, unlike a heatsink which you only need to replace the fan on every 5-10 years. EVGA and Corsair ones come with 5 year warranty at least.
Jose Rodriguez
I'd rather just make my own for less money.
Ryder White
I mean if thats how you wanna do it, maybe I'm biased since I travel for a living
Mason Martin
Take out the thermal paste, you're not gonna use it.
Daniel Wilson
Is the 8400 no longer a viable budget option?
Ian Bell
Read the op but is 580 really enough to max out 1080p assuming everything else is not bottlenecking?Or would vega 56 keep me maxing out for a few years?
Adam Campbell
>buy a 1070Ti because I don't want to wait for Navi and we don't know anything about it >Nvidia is now supporting Freesync Nice, that was my main concern with an Nvidia card. This is huge
Parker Williams
Depends on why you're asking If you already have one and are asking if its performance is still fine, then it's fine. If you're looking to buy one then it's fine as long as you get it cheaper than a 2600
Jeremiah Reed
I live with my grandparents and they are always cold My room is 79 degrees right now
Aiden Powell
Wow thanks for the info
Hunter Rivera
Except for I/O and muh overclocking, do motherboards really matter? Like, at all?
Will 11xx series be a thing, or should I pull the trigger on a 580? For gaymen, 1080p, not waiting for a 2050 at $250.
Kevin Edwards
So I just build this and already the CPU is getting pretty hot. Is this just probably caused by improperly applied thermal paste? I moved the thermal paste a bit since I never put in a heat sink before.
Or could it be the fan? The fan works when I turn on the PC.
Doesn’t matter at all if you just want to plug your shit in and forget about it. Never buy a chinkshit motherboard from somewhere like aliexpress though
Dominic Hernandez
Speccy is poo tier, it’s probably reporting the wrong temps. Install hwinfo
Colton Ramirez
Yes, if you get one with an insufficient VRM setup for what you're putting in it you can get VRM thermal throttling which will reduce performance. Also standard reliability and warranty vendor based shit
Christopher Bailey
No decent vrm would overheat with stock voltages
Adrian Hughes
This, mobos do not matter at stock settings as long as it has the features you want.
>CES was a let down >biggest announcement is that nvidia will release a buggy driver for some freesync monitors >ryzen 3 confirmed bulldozer 2.0 >radeon vii will be vega frontier 2.0
Luke Turner
The i9 9900K will on low end z370 boards. Also I haven't seen it tested but i bet those heatsinkless Asus b450 boards would struggle with a 2700X
Oliver Brown
>CPU even cooler than a goddamn SSD >with a $30 air cooler holy shit big difference from my low profile cooler 40C idle
Asher Hill
I just bought a Ryzen 7 2700x off ebay for $45, it says its brand new, and unused. This is such a good deal it seems unreal!? These normally go for like $300, did i just get scammed? Or have any of you anons gotten amazing deals like this. I was reluctant to buy it bc its so cheap its unreal.
The guy i bought it from jut now has more, so if anyone needs one or wants to flip it later check him out.
Possibly, but if you’re buying a high end cpu you probably wouldn’t cheap out on a motherboard. I assume if user wanted to drop a cpu into a generic motherboard it wouldn’t have a tdp higher than 65w
Ethan Torres
fake and gay bench it
Nolan Diaz
>shilling your own scam this hard
Christopher Richardson
Look it up, i havnt gotten it in the mail i just now bought it, if its not exactly what it says it is ebay will refund me.
Camden Sanders
Newegg has evga 1070 for AUD$470. Is that good value for aus? I haven’t seen a Ti much cheaper than aud $600
Sebastian Flores
This is the system I build and been using for 10 months by now. is a small mini-itx system with a relative small foot print. (case: cooler master elite 130) I am more than happy with my freesync 1080p monitor I use with it . I might want to try VR in a year or so(to expensive right now). Over the course of this year any recommendations on what to upgrade in general? Also did I shot myself in the foot by choosing a relative cheap 500w PSU?
I assumed otherwise. I've seen a lot of guys here with 6 cores or higher in an A320 board. I mean, that'll probably work, but why? they're barely even cheaper than passable B350/450s like the asrock pro 4
Jayden Hill
Your psu has shitty capacitors but you have like 250w headroom for a gpu
Gavin Hill
Lack of research is the number one cause for bad choices
Carson Williams
It wasn't for me. Size of games, even though PC is essentially demat', tends to be scaled on BluRay disk size. So if you have a couple of AAA bloatwares, that's 2x65GB gone. Doesn't leave much margin for other software.
It's not bad, it's too expensive vs. the 2600.
Who knows what will happen in a year. Just sit on it and ask when you're actually ready to make changes.
Thanks for the ssd advice. Crucial Bx500 480gb is $95, ie not much more than the 250gb model I was looking at. Is that model okay?
David Price
Considering that SSD prices are going down, it's kinda expensive.
Wyatt Foster
BX500 is dram-less, don't touch that with a 10-foot pole if installing an OS on it (which is most likely what you're using it for). Get an MX500 instead. 250GB SSD is more than enough if you're installing games to HDD only.
Logan Russell
If anyone promised you navi they were a liar. I am really shocked they're releasing a 7nm GPU of any kind so early though. The price makes sense though. Early silicon be spensive.
Pcie 4 is not interesting for me as a gamer right?. Im asking because i would buy x470 + 2600 now and upgrade later to ryzen 3000
Joseph Lee
Not yet useful, but it's still a bonus.
Christopher Barnes
Should I buy the Acer Predator XB271HU 27" WQHD IPS NVIDIA 2560X1440 (2K), 144 Hz G-Sync Black/Red Gaming Monitor?
Brandon Lewis
I have a htpc i5-4670K with a HD 7950 should I upgrade my main build by swapping my 1080 for a RTX 2070 and giving the htpc the 1080. Worth it?
Logan Miller
And you're why the chinese keep doing these fucking scams.
Isaac Gray
wait until the 15th, then see if the freesync version works with nvidia
Xavier Jenkins
What's the current word on SSD's? I've been running two basic 250 GB drives for the past few years, and I'm starting to max them out.
I'm thinking on a 500GB or 1TB Crucial MX500. Are there better options? Is something new coming down the pipeline that might change prices or improve performance?
Justin Martin
What do most gamers do? Install games to HDD or SSD?
James Campbell
any red flags on this build? a friend is asking me what i think but i havent done this in quite a while gaming experience is what he is after
Use SSD for games that have a ton of loading screens like Skyrim or games that constantly load textures and shit like GTA V and other open world games. If you notice textures popping in as you move around, SSD would help.
Christopher Rodriguez
The slow RAM
Elijah Lee
Get a 1tb or 500gb crucial mx 500 or Samsung 860. They should be $80/$160. Just don't fall for the nvme meme and you're good.
If you're not poor, put all games/apps on ssd. There's a few exceptions with multi-player games where you have to wait for everyone else to load... But having a HDD in your rig just for that is kinda meh. Better to have HDDs somewhere on the network.
Kevin Lewis
2080 worth it?
running i7-6700K currently have a 1080.
Jose Sullivan
Change RAM to 2666Mhz CMK16GX4M2A2666C16W Change HDD to 7200rpm please. Opinion but RGB case is pretty gay.
Jackson Collins
Is this fucking real 'spiderman flagship psu' fucking lol
I really wish more designers would come out with tasteful RGB cases. Not these rainbow window floodlight monstrosities but just like strips of light around key areas or access panels for aesthetics.
Liam Reyes
thank you anons
Zachary Foster
>250€ for a new 580 I fucking hate jewrope.
Chase Young
you're gay, fun hating faggot RGB is awesome. Not the full blown shit but in moderation
If it were me, I'd probably lower the price somewhere and bump the GPU to a 2080, or even a 2080ti for that price.
I'd also add a second mechanical hard drive for pictures/movies whatever just so you have some additional storage space. They're cheap anyways.
Carson Gomez
reposting:
Ok, now with the big CES presentations behind us, can i finally pull the trigger on this build? de.pcpartpicker.com/list/HfQhLJ
Looking to get a 2070 TU106-400A-A1 model, haven't decided which one around 550EUR to get. Targeting bog standard 1080p for now, 1440p in a couple months or after we know more about the whole freesync thingy.
Alexander Reed
You shouldn't have even bothered waiting for CES if you already bought a CPU
Henry Powell
>GPU to a 2080 From pic related is there any particular one I should buy, they all appear to have the same specs with the exception of boost clock being different, I don't plan on OCing. I was thinking of getting the Aorus one simply because it has the same name as the Gigabyte motherboard I want to get. The EVGA 2080s are €900+ so I'll skip that brand. I also have some old spare HDDs already to use as a D drive. Thanks.
