>If you use 8 characters and you choose from alphanumeric characters (A-Za-z0-9) there are (26+26+10)^8 = 62^8 = 218340105584896 possible combinations, against a GPU with 130 million tripcodes per second it will take about 19.4 days running non-stop to exhaust the keyspace.
You know the DES tripcode is 10 characters and not 8 right?
Dominic Bennett
Then it would be just 62^10 instead. Not a big deal.
Charles Martin
But what’s the hash algorithm?
Jackson Moore
It would require more disk space than there are atoms in the universe
Luke Ortiz
hmm yes, 20 days times 62 and 62 again is 210 years.
Henry Ross
>62^8 vs 62^10 >not a big deal user...
Gabriel Baker
>GPU with 130 million hashes a second >roughly 74724 DAYS >>NOT A BIG DEAL
Isaac Howard
With 1000 computers dividing the work evenly that's 2.5 months
Evan Sullivan
Ahh yes, rent 1000 GPUs for 2.5 months just to find that one tripcode. Then the tripfags switches to SHA-1 12 character tripcodes and all your work is ruined.
Sebastian Young
No company or richfag is willing to spend 100s of thousands of dollars to exhaust the tripcode set for it to be made public and "free"
Nolan Johnson
It's definitely possible, but why would someone make the effort?
Jow Forums only takes the first 8 characters of the password. It's still higher than 62^8 though.
Nathan Miller
>It's still higher than 62^8 though. Because of the weeb charset?
Ayden Campbell
>wasting a single computational cycle on tripfags
They could have the pass as trip and no one would care
Dominic Sanchez
Has anybody tried to "crack" the secure tripcode system? As I understand it, there's a secret salt added to the user input that gets hashed. But if you have precomputed (or a fast way to compute) hashes, you can check for ${yourInput}${somesalt} and see if it matches the hash by Jow Forums. Then you'll know 4chans salt.
P.S yeah, the salt can be really long, but maybe we can exploit something in the hash algorithm.
Nolan Flores
Input space is the number of 8 byte strings so 256^8 = 18446 Quadrillion However output space is the number of 10 alphanumeric characters plus dot and slash strings so (64^9)*16 (last character only has 16 possibilities instead of 64) = 288 Quadrillion 62^10 is actually a pretty close estimate log wise to the latter.
Jow Forums doesn't have salt; the salt is computed from the 2nd and 3rd character of your key
Adrian Edwards
Then how is it more secure than the nonsecure version?
Bentley Wright
Salt alone doesn't make that trip secure because it's fairly easily attacked. But it's a 12 characters SHA-1 tripcode instead of the 10 characters DES one
Cameron Cook
>2.5 months of no vidya and huge electricity bills because i'm mining trips for Jow Forums no thank you
Jackson Lopez
you can gather secure tripcodes and bruteforce them to see what hash generate the insecure tripcode that coincides with it as soon as you have two correspondences or more you can start deriving the system that builds the secure one, and thus be able to generate secure tripcodes yourself without having to query Jow Forums of course, this isn't guaranteed to work at all since the hashing function could be absolutely different and in no way related, but you never know desu
Austin Sanchez
rich miners have this equipment and it now useless where is GPU trip explorer?
Joseph Gonzalez
How the fuck are you planning to store them? You need like 2PB of space to store 62^8 tripcodes.
218340105584896 of 10 bytes strings is 2PB roughly.
Xavier Ross
It's not 62^8 though; see
Asher Ward
Not every byte can be used for the trip.
Jayden Baker
can use rainbow_tables to make it 65536 times less (or more)
Brandon Sanchez
Which doesn't matter at all because input space is vastly bigger than the output space and you need a table of at least (62^9)*16 lines to store the end result.
Christopher Carter
No, you can't. You need to store keys for each of of the 288 quadrillion trips. That's the point of a rainbow table
Adam Rodriguez
rainbow tables can reduce needed space in 65536x (or more)
Angel Roberts
No.
Grayson Martinez
yes
Bentley Wright
Do you even know what a rainbow table is? Rainbow table doesn't save space because it's at the extreme of a space-time trade off.
Landon Long
You don't seem to know what a rainbow table is
Dominic Flores
How much would you estimate that to cost? What's the projected return for this investment?
Aaron Brown
The only tripcode that matters is already known. Nothing else matters now