Encryption in Australia

it just proves that all the parties are the same, and their names dont matter

what in the fuck...?

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The most infuriating part is that terrorist and criminals would just roll their own crypto anyway. A sysadmin actually rolled his own crypto programs for el chapo and it’s what helped the feds bring him down when the sysadmin flipped and gave them encryption keys.

theregister.co.uk/2019/01/09/drug_kingpin_el_chapo_sysadmin/

>He noted that the opposition Labor Party "had to be dragged to the table" and backed the legislation as an emergency measure out of concern extremists could target Christmas-New Year crowds.

Politicians of all stripes absolutely hate the idea of someone, somewhere, doing something that they can't control. Even the right-wing, ostensibly small-government parties are like this, they just disagree with the left on (some of) what it is they want the state to have absolute control over.

>Two months into the trial in New York, the FBI admitted that it had been able to access hundreds of phone calls made by Guzman and his associates via a custom encryption system because they had flipped the IT guy that set it up, systems engineer Cristian Rodriguez.

Haha I like how they mention him by name, as if the guy didn't already have a big enough target on his face.

Yeah I’d like to think that he already has a new name so releasing the old didn’t matter much.

Just tell em it's randomly generated data

Being in IT he probably doesn't have a family so it would be easy to disappear.

>implying this will change much
Most people here are incompetent when it comes to technology anyway, including those who work for the state. It's pretty annoying when politicians pass anything related to tech though, they usually have no idea what they're talking about.

Oh boy I wonder who could be behind this bill!

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Seriously what the fuck is wrong with world today? Do people want to live in a modern version of the USSR or current day China where individual rights and freedoms do not exist? And are constantly kept in line by a fascist dictatorship?

>Cristian Rodriguez
its like saying Smith Anderson even if its his real name its supper common, you would be killing several millions of them

>be me
>say something regarding technology or the government
>oh you're just paranoid user everything is alright :^)
>some time later
>you were right user this is scary/bad/wrong
Normalfags, when will they learn?

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lol Anus Taylor

They never will. Actually they actively want to not have to learn. Most of them hate thinking or learning, especially about tech stuff, and they have this attitude that they shouldn't have to do it.

A good example is the repeated privacy scandals that Google and Facebook have gotten themselves into. I've had that same pattern you said happen. A few years ago all the normies in my life thought I was a loon for going so far out of my way to switch away from gmail. Now they hear about all this creepy data collection and they're alarmed. Then, of course, they ask me what they should do about it, and I tell them, well, if you don't like it, do what I did and quit using those services. They find this a completely unacceptable answer. Can't they just pass a law or something that says that Google has to stop being creepy? While remaining free and convenient, of course. Can't you nerds just nerd harder and solve this for us, they ask. They refuse to accept that they themselves have to do something if they don't like the way things are, that it can't just be done for them.

Most of them will just swallow their doubts and say "well, I guess it's not *that* bad..." because this enables them to continue not having to do anything.

Politicians are like this, too, actually.
>"We want everyone's communications to always be readable by our intelligence agencies. But not by the Chinese or hackers, that'd be bad."
>"You can't do that, anything that's secure against them is secure against you, and anything you can get into, they can get into."
>"Fucking nerds, why do you have to make this so hard? Can't you just go figure out a way to make what we want possible?"
Oftentimes they get lazy and do nothing too, but sometimes they bestir themselves to pass awful misguided laws based on their profound ignorance.

It's not an encryption ban, it's basically saying "We now have the right to tell anyone in Australia to build a gov backdoor into their services"
Most companies they've asked so far have said "Lolno, fuck off", and, if they're not Australian based, the gov can't do shit.
I'm tempted to write an all-aussie encrypted chat app just to see if they ask me to backdoor it.
Maybe if I shill it enough online they would.

When i think about it Matrix Cypher nailed it. I would have been another dumb nornie, but Jow Forums has given too many pills.

That’s the way we’re all headed. Some countries (such as China) are just getting there a lot faster is all.

Most politicians like the sound of that, yes. So long as they're running it because obviously they'd use the power for good and not evil. They, unlike them damn commies, really do know whats best for people and should have authority over their lives. Can't people see that we're doing this to them for their own good? How terribly exhausting for such a noble public servant as I to take on the burden of forcing the populous to do what's best....

People that don't have this unimaginable arrogance, narcissism, and lust for power and control are people that tend to not become politicians, because why would they, if they found these things repulsive? Anyone who runs for office has demonstrated, by their display of naked ambition, that they are unfit to govern.

But the sad part is that a lot of the population hates having rights and freedoms also. They'd much rather give them up so that they can be taken care of. Freedom implies the freedom to fail, and it imposes the burden of making your own choices and running your own life. That shit's hard and many people actively want to be rid of the need to do it. Every cop (ironically enough) has stories about this - people who commit crimes just to go back to prison, where they're fed, housed, and told what to do.

I have no idea how to fix this problem.

Start by breaking rules. Don't pay tax wherever possible. Clone plates, use cash. Ignore this story because they won't be able to do jackshit.

>oh user I have nothing to hide anyway :^)
>*look over their shoulder while they fiddle with their phone or faptop
>user stop looking, can I have some privacy please?

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>be aussie
>get bitten by snakes spiders and crocodiles every day
>emuchad fucks wife in bed every night
>chinks rapidly taking over the country
>government is absolutely bonkers
>can't torrent japanese cartoons
>can't even have secure data anymore

ABSOLUTE STATE OF UPSIDEDOWNLAND

this and
this
It's a mix of having very little understanding of the technological implications of what they're doing and a sense of entitlement coming from being a politician.
I guess if you put it in terms of
>would you pass a law giving the government master keys to everyone's houses
half of them would cream their pants, the rest will be horrified, bury their heads in the sand, and still vote for it.
Every government's first mandate is expanding its mandate. We probably need to execute them all every 50 years to keep them in line

Ausfag here. Everyone in this country in hard in the middle of flipping their shit over Chinese influence on Huawei, and wanting to ban everything the brand ever touched because the Chinese Government is so evil they have laws around forcing companies to introduce backdoors.

How the fuck noone sees the hypocrisy is mind blowing.

>can't torrent japanese cartoons
>can't even have secure data anymore
You what mate? Most of this can be sorted out if you aren't braindead. And the most common problem for normalfags is website blocks which are just DNS poisoning, change a few numbers and you're all good.

Why can't they just look up "how to x" or "why doesn't y work"?

>It's pretty annoying when politicians pass anything related to tech though
Or guns. Or anything really. Everything any government does reeks of incompetence.

That, or it's pure, unadulterated evil. I honestly don't know which is worse; either we're being led by incompetent idiots or malicious bastards.

God it’s literally the OP

>give me your encryption key
>no
>okay

>A few years ago all the normies in my life thought I was a loon for going so far out of my way to switch away from gmail.
What did you switch to?

>populous
kys

I picked Startmail. though they're a bit expensive and you have more options these days.

>getas fined 50k
>gets sent to prison
Psssst nothing personnel

>Psssst nothing personnel
STOP STEELING MY OC KEVIN FUCK YOU

jesus fuck

Make a shoop where there's also a wrapping paper for LE NAZI HATE SPEECH XD and the meme will be perfect.

Conventional conservatism is a pretty far cry from libertarianism. They share an affinity for low taxes and light economic regulation. But with conservatism that's more a practical matter ("that's what boosts the economy most") than an ideological one, they don't really have any devotion to individual liberty or limits to government authority from first principles. If it seems expedient to them to clamp down on freedom or boss people around, they'll do it at the drop of a hat.

This is actually a good demonstration of that. (At least in America, I'm not sure if Australia is similar) Modern-day conservatives very much love free speech when it's a club they can bash the left with over political correctness. But as soon as you burn a flag or stage a protest at a soldier's funeral, they're more than ready to rip up the First Amendment. That's the conservative version of "hate speech".

>buys gun
>if i'm going doown i'm taking you with me

Dumb boomer law that can't even do anything if passed
Thank fuck we can vote out these retards next year

>burn a flag
public hazard, nuisance, or endangerment
>soldier's funeral
private property

you have to go out of your way to pick bad examples that dont relate to speech qua speech - i.e information - and instead give examples of "speech" through actions, which may be subject to legitimate regulation

>YFW YOU DON'T LIVE IN AUSFAILIA

>50k fine and prison
vs
>fully charged as a pedo or w/e serious shit you're in and facing life probably

Too bad stupidity is bipartisan.

Staging a protest at a funeral is just disrespectful. Unless the guy was like saddam, or was a war criminal or something. Soldiers fight because that's what politicians tell them to do. And guess who doesn't control their politicians?

"that's disrespectful, so you shouldn't be allowed to do it" is the essence of the left's attack on free speech also. The two sides just disagree on who you shouldn't be allowed to disrespect.

There's a difference between calling the solider a faggot for dying for israel and picketing a funeral.
Generally though it's best if the state doesn't get involved. Like it becomes a legal loophole that you're allowed to shoot those fucks and the police don't show up. okay maybe not that extreme but if the threat was there they wouldn't show up.

Hopw would that work, unless you have something to blackmail the IT worker with you need to bribe them or throw them in prison without explanation (which would alert the employer ofc.)

They already did this a few days or a week ago.

What are they gonna do about Tor?

Five eyes already took care of it. They control most nodes.

Well, what do you have to hide then if youre not a pedo or a terrorist?

Nothing, checkmate

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just hit them with a non-compliance fine or whatever until they do.

Yeah, that's why it's good to store passwords in plain text instead of using cryptographic hashes.
Also if you have nothing to hide, give us all of your emails and their credentials.

Virtually every company has come out against it because it can force an employee compromise the security of their products without the company knowing, as contacting your organization's legal team if you are requested to make a backdoor is illegal under the law. Some companies are even going as far to threaten pulling all operations in the country. Tech workers are also being encouraged to sign this open letter: alp.fail/.

Basically, expect who ever instigated this to lose their political career when they are drowned out by lobbyist dollars.

>going to the bathroom
>police send an agent to watch you shit
>if you object, you must be a terrorist or a pedophile

My sides

political cartoonists need to label absolutely EVERYTHING: exhibit F-268.19

Chinks don't have your best interests in mind
Your own government on the other hand...

Would this even be possible to implement?

ITT: terrorism and pedo enablers

Shifting the focus from the state's governments to the federal government was the big mistake.
Expecting a rancher in rural Colorado, a nu-male in San Francisco, and a blue collar worker in upstate New York to fall under all the same laws is retarded.

To that end - you can still safely buy your drugs or whatever off of TOR, the intel agencies don't care in the slightest about that.

You will have to find another way to plan your terrorist plots though.

>buys gun
Not in Australia you don't

Australian migrant here, can confirm that the politicians in this country are so retarded, they think that "encryption" is just an excuse big tech companies make up to get out of assisting law enforcement. Hence, it's named the Assistance and Access Bill.

Jesus, what a shithole.

They can't fine an imprison those operating outside of Australia

Yet, other governments will ask Australia to act on their behalf

>either we're being led by incompetent idiots or malicious bastards.
>either
why not both cunt, that's the simplest explanation

Everyone always says this but is there actually any proof? And if the five eyes control a lot of nodes, you can be damn sure the Russians and Chinese do as well.

I read these as "noodes" for some reason.
>Five eyes already took care of it. They control most nudes.

People who seek out or share political cartoons are simpletons, whichever side they are on.

It's kinda part of the style I think. They've been like that for probably hundreds of years.

Spoonfeed my retarded ass if you can, isn't Huawei based out of China? Why wouldn't there be Chinese influence on it?

Probably more of a Jow Forums topic, but how are chunks taking over the country?

no idea, that;s what i've heard from aussies

Yes with very strong links to the Chinese communist party. That’s why China got their panties in such a bunch over the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, the huawei CFO in Canada. She is basically Chinese royalty, and her father was the founder of huawei.

Ausfags are such cucks
Imagine being such a spineless cuck to live in such a hellhole and not do anything about being pegged by a giant jewish bbc everyday...

>Imagine being such a spineless cuck to live in such a hellhole and not do anything about being pegged by a giant jewish bbc everyday.
Are you talking about the US here? The country where they basically mutilate their cocks at birth, because it pleases their Jewish overlords. Sounds pretty damn cucked to me.

It seems like this was specifically done at a time where the least amount of people would be listening to politics.

Go shill your shitty video somewhere else faggot

Do you have criticism for the video?

optus updated yesterday, they're no longer doing DNS blocks they're doin DPI blocking akin to chinas great firewall, only way around is proxy etc

Welcome to the list of third world shit holes.

why is anyone surprised that a country like Ausfailia is doing such a thing? this place like the UK and the vast majority of the EU don't even have free speech and face fines/jail time for saying something mean on the Internet. What makes you think they'd ever uphold encryption rights?

All shit holes. They all reap what they sow being willing to create and live in a nanny state. How those boots taste?

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What are you trying to say? Do you not know what "populous" means? Are you trying to be edgy? Why did you post?

>Do you not know what "populous" means?
It's an Amiga game, right?

If you're Canadian i have some magic beans to sell you. But yes, UK is a shithole, unless you're very wealthy

Basically this.

If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide.

You can buy guns as long as you have a reason to.
Join gun club, buy guns.
Also there are no laws against ownership of compound Bows

lots of our utilities are owned by Asian interests.
Energy Australia = China
etc etc