Want help? >State the budget & CURRENCY >Post at least some attempt at a parts list >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
RAM: >Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended >CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3200CL16 is ideal >All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP
Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices >RTX 2060 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match; consider 1070/Ti or Vega56 ONLY if on sale 1440p >RTX 2070; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 ONLY if on sale >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >RTX 2080 is the standard choice >RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
How do I figure out if my CPU and GPU won't bottleneck each other? what am I suppose to look for? core clock? cuda cores? memory clock?
Do I really have to test them and look at other people or can I figure it out myself by looking at the stats?
Josiah Young
Buy a console T. Unhelpful elitist
Eli Gomez
All they had to do was make their fans black. this is too much
Lucas Wilson
>Short powercut recently >PC started loading slow as hell and being a bitch in general >Figure it's the shitty old HDD I've been using for the OS for ages (yes I am aware, I will buy a SSD at some point) >Replace it with a less old, larger capacity one that I've hoarded >PC still acting slow How concerned should I be, considering I do not have a replacement mobo lying around? If it's likely to be RAM then I'm okay with that.
continuing here Should i buy a different pc case or a different cooler? An user suggested dropping the proc to 2600 to make the gpu 2070, is it worth it and why? Sorry, first time tryin to build here. Also, i only plan on buying a 1080 144hz monitor
Jose Johnson
Go for a mid tower, a full tower is colossal and only of use for using dozens of hdds or massive watercooling setups. 2600x is the same as 2700x if you're only using it for games.
Jason Walker
It's either software or unrelated to the powercut. Computers don't get slow from surge damage, they can start crashing a lot because it usually damages the PSU, but slow is software bloat or plain old obsolescence
Cameron Edwards
Thanks user Also, another user said something about not being able to run my ram at 3200, i was trying to understand the reply chain he linked but i had no idea what it meant at all, maybe something about the mobo?? Should i change it to an msi x470 gaming plus instead?
Anthony Howard
pcpartpicker.com/list/ I'm paying ~ $720 after taxes.. Going to be used for development and some total war/hoi4. In my opinion it seems like a good value for the price. I could spend more but I don't wanna pay for too much hype. Any thoughts?
Joshua Robinson
Said it wrong: slow BOOTING, not loading. Could that only be software? It's consistent too, which is the worrying part.
Adam Martinez
Do you guys use Logicalincrements? Also, does anyone here make money building PC's? I'm talking like, maybe $20 per build on top of parts.
Isaiah Thompson
yeah you're coming in at way under 720
Andrew James
It will probably work if you update mobo bios to latest and maybe bump the ram voltage up a touch.
Tyler Robinson
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8PnKV6 UK £. I want to do mainly vr gaming with it. It will be hooked up to the 1080 tv and HTC Vive. My budget is ~£800 but would like to reduce it. I want to get a better gpu later to save money now.
Austin Collins
Yeah that's probably software, restore or reinstall windows and it'll definitely fix it.
Hudson Barnes
If it's from the very start, look into the BIOS. If it slow loads the interface, manually check for an unnecessary registry entry like explorer and iexplore in a place it shouldn't be (was in some folder with Image in the title under NT if I remember). This registry error isn't picked up by anti virus programs, malware scanners, and I even think the registry check in command prompt. Go into regedit to see if this is the case.
Brayden Green
The only way people make money with pc's is by building shitty systems with old parts they have lying around and selling it to normies who don't know better. My brother does this but it's mostly for fun/getting rid of old shit.
Lincoln Parker
On that note, you think I can offload an old 2500/290/8gb PC for $500?
Caleb Bell
I found this exact same pc at Best Buy for 500 USD. Problem is that only comes with one 8GB stick. Will this thing overheat and get loud considering the size?
get a cheaper motherboard (B450) and the 2600x instead. Also the PSU seems terrible, get a seasonic one just to be safe.
Luke Sanchez
>$250 for the shittiest MSI 580 Dude.
Thomas Myers
Stop recommending the 2600x, it's shit
Elijah Murphy
Hahahaha yess yes of course He should buy only Intel® Core™ Processors!
Mason Jackson
Budget: 1400~1500usd Purpose: Gaming and Semi-Future proof for at least 3-4 years
Help?
Cameron Thomas
what kind of psu wattage would i be looking to power 32 hdds & a single pcie riser card? no mobo or anything else. (assume the drives are 10K sata or 15K sas)
Brandon Foster
Look at power consumption specs for the HDDs, allow +50% for each, multiply by 32.
Connor Rodriguez
You seem mad There's no reason to buy 2600x when 2600 exists. $50 more for 0.2ghz higher clock and worse temps is stupid
Luke Morgan
the 2600 has shit binning and people are still falling for it. The guy wants to use this thing for not just gaming so he needs the power more in the CPU than in the GPU and he's gonna run it hard.
Elijah Wilson
You're assuming every 2600 can hit 4GHz. They don't, barely half can do 3.9.
pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2BWTB There's no reason going higher than that for 1080p 60fps. Even the 2060 is way overkill for that but it's the best value card right now.
Joseph Clark
OK 4chen, gimme update on 9700KF and availability of Strix 2080ti in West EU
Kayden Brooks
How did I do? GPU is a 6GB 1060 from last build. My plan is to use it for about 8 years like I did for my Sandybridge build. Probably only upgrades being memory and video cards every 3-4 years. I'll use it for mmos and the occasional fps but nothing aaa with super high frame rates most likely.
Hi. I use Linux for programming. I wish to go with a 2700X (possibly mini ITX). I have two 1440p displays, what graphics card should I go with? I don't play any games. Ryzen does not have integrated graphics. Also what are some workstation-like, window-less pc cases? ATX, mini ITX, mirco
Jordan Davis
If 2060 had 8gb my gpu decision would be made already. But I can’t justify that cost for a 6GB card. Navi when?
Samuel Hughes
Every time you ask they will postpone the release by another week.
Isaac Richardson
Pretty jelly. That's a nice setup.
Aaron Smith
>How did I do? terrible. What made you think pairing $1000 worth of stuff with a 1060 would be a good idea? You could have build a better gaymen pc including a new gpu for that money.
Kevin Walker
Enlight me pls
Gavin Thompson
>Do games even use 6gb of VRAM? I have not played games since my early teens--afterall gaming is for children, right Jow Forums? Imagine all those hours you waste playing video games: you could started to workout and have gf, learn an instrument, or beocme a self taught programmer. But no, your still a fat, autistic weaboo.
Juan Wood
Can I use high-speed RAM (3200) without overclocking the CPU?
I mean I you are crazy you could get yourself a Silverstone ML09 and put the 2700x with a WX4100 low profile GPU in there. No need to really pay the Pro-tax though. here's what I would do (Not sure what you program that requires a 2700x but ok): pcpartpicker.com/list/9sPGzY
Liam Johnson
If a 2700X is overkill--what do yoiu recomend?
Joseph Barnes
Any suggestions on a bluray burner/writer
Isaac Parker
Well I think a 2700 would be the better choice. Easier on the thermals and cheaper. The 1700 would be even cheaper, they are throwing these out for often under 160$ with the drawback of slower clocks and marginally worse ram support. For shits and giggles you could really build it in this case (I own this as my home theater PC) but it's gonna be really tight: pcpartpicker.com/list/yy3v7W
More sensible would be something like this: pcpartpicker.com/list/wYtRXP Do you need an optical drive? Would you rather have a mini tower like for example the EVGA Hadron or Fractal Nano?
The one that's cheapest, preferably Panasonic. Make sure it can play back the latest UHD 3D stuff and comes with the playback software.
because it was the only AMD low Profile card with at least two digital monitor ports. You could get a Geforce GT1030 but AMD is the easier life in Linux. Also the WX 2100 wasn't that expensive compared to the non pro counterpart.
Jayden Murphy
Can't I just buy a high-end NUC. Money is not a problem.
Josiah Taylor
Any feedback? Max budget is 2500usd Gonna be used mainly for gaming ( multiplayer at 1440p/high refresh and single player at 4k/ aiming at medium preset 50 - 60 ish fps) Alrady have a Corsair 540 and two 2 tb hdd´s pcpartpicker.com/list/qq383b
Chase Perez
Oh in that case yes. The Hades Canyon NUCs are the fastest machines you can cram into the smallest form factor. I was a bit confused by the "workstation-like" part. If you want to conserve money you should build yourself a mATX machine but if not the NUCs are a great space saving alternative. I don't care about the normal NUCs (the gray ones, often with Notebook hardware) at all though.
Oliver Moore
Get a PG279QZ and get b-die RAM, also get a better mobo like the X470 Gaming Carbon Pro from MSI.
Dylan James
With the highest-end NUC kit, I know it will be more than enough to run Gentoo terminal based applications, but will it be able to provide me a snappy experiance on Windows 10 when dual booted. I occassionally use Fusion 360 too for my 3d printer. WIll it be capable. Thanks so much for the help, desu.
Jackson Sanders
>The one that's cheapest, preferably Panasonic. Make sure it can play back the latest UHD 3D stuff and comes with the playback software.
Does the type of playback software matter at all? I heard Nero is awful
William Bennett
Thanks to DRM thers no free software afaik that has native movie playback for blu ray. VLC can do it but needs to be slightly molded. The burning software doesn't matter, I haven't used such stuff in years.
Yes, they are actually powerful. It's basically a 7700k with a RX560 glued in.
Lincoln Reed
What voltage do you guus run your system fans at? I just populated my last system fan and set them all to 7.2v
Jordan Murphy
I haven't built a PC in a long time. Is AMD considered competitive now? Do their drivers still suck?
Alexander Ward
Were can I find a wiring diagram for the power switch of a: HP Compaq 6200 Pro Series motherboard?
Not for games, but I do use CAD. Just want something that will last 5 years+
Also, does anyone have a setup like a KVM switcher to swap their monitors/controls between a PC and a laptop? I want to set this up with my work laptop (don't want to do remote desktop since the security on the laptop doesn't play nice with it). Is there any way I can make my build more easily facilitate doing this?
Andrew Bailey
Says it’s AMD freesync. Here’s hoping it’s one of the approved ones
Leo Walker
My 1080 Ti gets to 80C under full load. It's not even overclocked. Is this bad?
Daniel Davis
Are those things(twin tower air cooler) heavy? I think they are really cool and would love to put my 212x to rest but I'm so afraid of this shit being so heavy it would bent my mobo.
Easton Walker
I run almost the exact same rig and I use CAD, Revit, & fusion360 every day
it's a great CPU for revit renders, the GPU can easily handle 4 1440p monitors, & 16gb can handle 10-12 large dwg files open at a time
youll be ight
Owen Bennett
are your fans at 100% when it gets that high? is 80 the highest you've seen it? that's pretty toasty but it's nothing to panic over. what model? could be something up with your case cooling
Luke Campbell
the oem fan profiles are trash this
setup some custom fan profiles user
Ayden Sanchez
I want a better GPU from my HTPC. Currently using a 7950 going to swap with a 1080 that I have in my main pc. I want a new card that is better then the 1080 and can't decide between a 2070 or 2080.
Sebastian Butler
They’re about 1.4kg
Ian Ortiz
Fans are about 80% at that temp. It's the highest I've seen., it's a MSI Gaming X. Case is good for air cooling, but I haven't cleaned the filters in like a year. What kind of profile should I do user?
Liam Scott
>the Meshify ETA keeps getting pushed back at my local shop Reeeeeeee I haven’t everything else just deliver my case already.
Is it worth holding out for this case? What are some similar price range cases? Needs to fit a Kraken 62 in the front
Lincoln Wright
>haven’t cleaned the filters in like a year What the fuck user? I clean mine monthly and they’re always clogged by that time. You could easily regain 5c I reckon
Aaron Richardson
you should be fine, depending on your card
Joseph Sullivan
>but I haven't cleaned the filters in like a year. you should do that asap. >What kind of profile should I do user? assuming you're fine with idle temps, just use msi afterburner and bump the fans up to 90% at 80 and see what happens.
Ethan Ross
>haven't cleaned the filters in like a year. jesus fookin christ user thats your first step then, imo you do what said and watch temp whiles fiddling w/ fan%
Levi Russell
;_; It's a bottom intake case so I've just been too lazy to rotate my 50lb case to take the filter off (it's magnetic, just sticks to the bottom of the case, no screws) How do you even clean filters? Vacuum? Water? The fans don't turn on until 50C and it idles at around 35C. How does this look user? I pay someone to clean my house every 2 weeks so I didn't think it would get this dusty. The interior of the case is still spotless but the filter seems pretty dirty...
What is a cheap, reliable 200GB 2.5" SSD I can store a couple games on?
Ryan Edwards
That’s hardly an excuse user c’mon. Look after your expensive LEGO. >how do you even clean filters Vacuum with the brush attachment does a good job and is what I do routinely. Every second or third month I do that and wash the filter in water and hang dry.
Henry Kelly
well, now you know its dirty so fookin clean it m8
>How do you even clean filters? Vacuum? Water? well if they arent too nasty you can just vacuum but id recommend taking it outside and blasting it with a leaf blower if you don't have canned air or a pc blower
