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Austin Morales
Dominic Stewart
So /hpg/ i am planning to buy some new headphones and need some advice
>Budget
around 200€, the less the better
>Type of headphone
I'm used to overears because i find them most comfortable
They also should have noise cancelling so i can work/study even in not so quiet places. Bt or cable doesn't matter
>Open or closed
as i said, they should have nc. I also don't want to annoy other people in the library. so probably closed
>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable and soft pads. One annoying thing i noticed with some bt headphones was that the weight is not distributed evenly. The left side felt much heavier. probably because of the battery
>Sound signature
should sound neutral or somewhat warm
>Past headphones
currently i am using Sennheiser HD 558 at home and some cheap overears outside. I really like the sennheisers
I am usally not into the whole headphone thing so any recommendation is welcome
Aiden Smith
Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.
I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.
Ethan Perez
HD 4.50BTNC
Isaiah Cook
For me it's ichika, the best mommy girlfriend!
Daniel Russell
Idol trash here. What's your setup like, user?
Blake Taylor
Bose QC25. If comfort matters at all to you forget the HD 4.50. QC25 also have much better noise cancellation.
They're not wireless but they are the best you can get for your budget with that use case.
Matthew Jenkins
That's why I routinely redownload my mp3s. After a few years they start sounding like YouTube rips.
Jaxon Johnson
There might be one or two issues with his reasoning, but he's right in recommending FLAC.
Tyler Roberts
Aiden Campbell
I usually scrape the microdust off my CDs with a razor so the drive can read it crystal clear again
Gabriel Taylor
>but he's right in recommending FLAC.
Idol Trash the pseudo objectivist
Asher Bell
I'm not him tho, I just didn't like it.
Easton Young
Now that we're talking about this, does Opus become transparent at 128 or 160kbps?
Samuel Perry
I've been browsing Jow Forums for almost a year now, and I'd like to ask a question:
Why is the OP pic of /hpg/ consistently lewd?
Christopher White
Such a cheap edit.
Gavin Myers
I know everyone hates car analogies but many people who buy expensive headphones cannot comprehend the fact that cheaper headphones can match or beat their headphones for fidelity, especially with EQ.
Imagine spending 160,000 on a Porsche 911 Turbo to get beaten by some kid with a modified Honda Civic around the track. It makes them angry and then they spout 'I drive a Porsche', that's nice and all, but objectively the Honda Civic was faster.
Jordan Johnson
It's lossy. There's no guarantee it's transparent at any bitrate for every song out there. At best you can guess based on some samples.
Caleb James
i should've listened to /hpg/ the hd600 sounds like complete ass im regretting my purchase now
Chase Evans
Colton Miller
OwO what is this?
Lincoln Johnson
it's a tradition
Luis Williams
I EQ my stax and even in stock form I find it superior to harman. What now, sweetie?
William Peterson
>edit
Christian Anderson
HD600 owner here.
What dac/amp should I buy to be able to listen to music on my smartphone with good quality?
Daniel Martinez
did you add upper mids to them? because they severely lack upper mids
Owen Gutierrez
Eq is less like modifying the honda/cheap HP and more like modifying the Track though. The Porsche will still be faster on a regular track, while the Honda will only be faster on a track that was pretty much turnet into a vertical hole from where the car is dropped.
I think what i mean to say is that EQ is nice if you truly now how to use it, but so is having something work like you want out of the box. You just have to see how much you are willing to pay/tinker for the ideal sound.
Gavin Torres
atom amp
Joseph Powell
they sound better than harman or other dynamic transducers even with "reduced upper mids". I know this is hard for you to imagine because you lack experience even owning headphones
Cameron Hughes
it'll sound like mud anyways
Robert Powell
they don't, it sounds unnatural because its the most sensitive region of the ear, you clearly haven't heard speakers in a good room
Adam Perry
sweetie, come back when you've got pictures of stax
Josiah Hernandez
imagine buying headphones with recessed upper mids
Wyatt Wood
Thanks
What do you mean, music on a smartphone will always sound like shit, even with an amp?
Luis Adams
>What do you mean, music on a smartphone will always sound like shit, even with an amp?
ignore him, hes a shitposter who hates hd600
Noah Allen
still sounds better than harma, as confirmed by oratory and other objectivists :^)
Aiden Morris
my hd600 just arrive and it sound like shit wtf
Camden Rogers
Oh it's that guy.
Aiden Hall
to you, because you're deaf with poor listening skills.
Brody Hill
Does it get loud enough with your smartphone headphone jack?
Kevin Robinson
Julian Sanchez
Thoughts on rotary subs?
youtu.be
Noah Gonzalez
Timestamp or gtfo
Hudson Perez
Liam Lee
>to you, because you're deaf with poor listening skills.
The only people who hold the HD600 as the only good thing in their heart are people who are too poor to experiment with buying more headphones or don't live close to a place where they can demo them. Even the Idol retard liked at least a couple Stax.
Sapphire and Nikita are brain addled shitposting bots.
Dominic Powell
I never mentioned the HD600 tho :s
Easton King
Right, you are the guy who will eq a KSC75 to a HD800 level of quality or something. Also shitposting on speakers. Same type of budgetctivist mentality though.
Matthew Jones
That's the obvious sign of butthurt. Dab on stax owners
>b-but hd600 are shit
like clockwork
Chase Gray
>Even the Idol retard
That's not nice, user.
Have you not seen Love Live yet?
Jacob Adams
Feel free to mention which headphones you own LMAO
Michael Morris
my hd600 sound just like this, really really bad
why did you shill me this /hpg/ was I memed
Carson Adams
Samuel Price
HD800S.
Nathan Miller
sniff my feet
Chase Ross
Making Alice cry is a capital sin.
Julian Rogers
nice zoomerphone
Jaxson Baker
yet here you are speaking out upper midrange on headphones. if that's the case then why are do you even own them instead of the hd600 lmao
Cooper Jenkins
I'd use her tits as headphones
Xavier Robinson
Best soundstage on headphones. Nothing comes close.
Logan Taylor
I want to use her feet as headphones.
Christopher Morgan
Isaac Diaz
i dropped love live in the 2nd episode. kys shill
Blake Brooks
soundstage is partially (or mostly) due to an upper midrange / lower treble dip. why are you judging headphones based on their upper midrange if that's the case? the harman curve and other harman tuned headphones like the hd600 have a small soundstage due to this. what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
Angel Davis
>didn't follow the 3 episode rule
dumb newfag, i bet you use beyers
Justin Harris
I watched the first season to try to understand love live fags better. it was okay. boring except for the songs. rated it a 5/10 or maybe a 6/10.
Jace Harris
Because stax headphones mostly lack gain around that area, they sound recessed, yeah the hd800s isnt as neutral as the hd600 but at least it isn't completely devoid like the stax
Brayden Phillips
800s upper mids sound way worse than stax lmfao
Nicholas Phillips
what? the HD800 is about 8db down while the L300 is about 4dB
innerfidelity.com
innerfidelity.com
Christian Davis
>neutral fags can't even read graphs
sigh
Angel King
why does innerfidelitys graphs always makes 1k and up portion of the graph not follow the same db line? that portion isn't that recessed usually.
Adam Johnson
level match the graphs
Jace Hall
their compensation curve is bad. diyaudioheaven unironically has the best curve
Robert Gonzalez
you can just eyeball it using 500hz as a reference plane, it's not hard. the L300 has a forward 1khz, when aligned at 500hz it will show how much less upper midrange the hd800 has compared to stax
Kayden Sullivan
what headphone are these? it looks amazing
Matthew Thompson
HMMMMMMMMM
Luke Anderson
Can I use eq on linux? I have m40x wonder if it can sound different
Jonathan Clark
no, it is impossible
Isaac Barnes
pulseeffects
Parker Barnes
who /never eq/ here?
Landon Walker
i tried EQing and I can never make my headphones sound better with it. It sounds artificial always.
Jordan White
>Budget
$50
>Location
USA
>Source
PC/Phone
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
comfort is more important than sound quality.
I can't handle much clamping force, loose to the point where it won't just fall off my head would be great
>Sound signature
high bass
>Past headphones
koss porta pros
I basically looking for something comparable to koss porta pros in quality and comfort, but with a detachable cord or wireless
Adam Jackson
metal talks about how much time and energy he has spent trying to EQ the hd800
Matthew Barnes
>Budget
I dont want to spend more than 500 USD
>Source
desktop computer, I plan to upgrade with a small DAC and Amp in the distant future.
>Type of headphone
over ear, none of that on-ear bullshit.
>Open or closed
closed, I do not want any leakage
>Comfort level
high tier comfort, I will be using these for hours at a time during work.
>Sound signature
neutral, ideally.
>Past headphones
Bose QC25, Sennheiser HD 598
I like my sennheisers, but the open back is stopping me from bringing it into work, and the Bose are not as good sounding.
Evan Williams
>metal talks about how much time and energy he has spent trying to EQ the hd800
Yeah that is true he did say he really has a heavy EQ on it. If only there was another headphone with that soundstage and imaging and I could wish more bass for me.
>1 hour
long but i'll take a look at it soon.
Asher Edwards
I linked exactly to the point where he talks about EQing it. and you can't get what you are asking for because you'll lose something else. it gets its soundstage from the reduced upper midrange, slightly rolled off bass, and the peaky treble. you need a DSP to fake the soundstage
Asher Myers
Oh I didn't notice that. EQ really sucks and I don't like making compromises.
Easton Brown
There is, but you won't like the answer.
Tyler Jenkins
it has nothing to do with EQ. it's just how our brain interprets a frequency response. those characteristics (as well as azimuth angle) are what determine soundstage. the hd800 is just tuned in a way so that the end result is an FR that lends to a large stage. you would need even more angled drivers like the K1000 or you would need a dsp to fake the soundstage
Michael Lee
don't even say it you little shitter.
are headphones a meme?
Cameron Robinson
The second season is generally considered better, as they compete in love live. First is just an introduction to the characters.
Ryder Reyes
>are headphones a meme?
all audio is a meme until we can get 3d scans of our ear canals as well as compensation for our current listening levels
Mason Jackson
maybe hd569 seeing that you like senns, it's really hard to find comfy neutral closed backs
James White
>all audio is a meme until we can get 3d scans of our ear canals as well as compensation for our current listening levels
I just like headphones to cope with my depression.
Christian Nguyen
you'll fit right in then!
Liam Nelson
I'm gonna say it!!
John Russell
goodbye thousands of dollars.
NONONONONO user NONONO THAT GIF ISNT EVEN A GIF
Robert Reyes
Was gonna use my welfare paycheck to buy some STAX but I haven't received it as yet. Guess I'll have to buy food with the little remainder of money I have left.
Luke Nguyen
I'M GONNA SAY IT
Adam Reed
Very good op
Austin Gray
Damm those must be some good headphones. Look at the way he reacts, his lips even form what I understand as "wow". What brand are these?