The federal police are outside

>the federal police are outside
>they raid your house
>within 20 seconds they have your devices secured and your ram on ice
so Jow Forums what method do you use secure your data in that 20 seconds? You do have a method dont you?

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gp-digital.org/world-map-of-encryption/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Handley
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C4

isnt that illegal?

Less illegal than my data.

Who said anything about legal?

>so Jow Forums what method do you use secure your data in that 20 seconds? You do have a method dont you?

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

kill the federal police like this

youtube.com/watch?v=jQvDn9MEtNo

tell them i may be a pervert but atleast im not an abortion extremst and hope they dont beat me up on the way to jail

Jokes on them, it’s all in the cloud.

I find it crazy that police departments don't train their police officers for this if they're going to do this job.

>240p
would it kill them to get a hd camera?

i think most pedophiles dont care because you only get like 3 months in most states, unless you care about your reputation anyway, but what are you doing not being an alpha male neckbeard that doesnt give a shit abou tanything in the first place

>pedophiles
What?

youre on Jow Forums i just assumed lol

If you're willing to blow yourself up and take a few cops with you, are you really worried about what they might arrest you for? What're they gonna do, reassemble all six thousand pieces of you to haul you into court?

Microwave. Goodluck trying to recover that data.

based

It won't destroy data on HDD.

Dump computer into an acid jar.
Put the jar into a safe.

I-I’m just minding it for a guy I met at the pub

youtu.be/CiBI0yrtHUo
This is just a movie.

Overvolt and blow the RAM, maybe even the rest of the motherboard. Strong magnets + thermite to the drives. You'll get destruction of evidence charges but depends on what you're doing as that'll determine if it's worth it.

>the federal police are outside
>implying there is one here
The only reason for a federal police to be here is they're on vacation and asking for directions

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pull my usb key out and break
computer is locked
all drives encrypted

Break open my PCs window and dunk the harddrive in acid

Erase luks header

Outback?

>in interrogation room
>"user, whats the password for these drivers"
>"uh ummm i forgot"
>"ok tell us when you remember, for your ease we will keep you in the holding cell until you remember"
arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/man-jailed-indefinitely-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives-loses-appeal/

the cryptofags worst nightmare

all my drives are luks encrypted so ill just unplug the pc

for x in /dev/sd[a-z];do dd if=/dev/zero of=$x&;done


j/k copyright infringement isn't a fucking crime lol

what a wacky clown world we live in
>unencrypt your drives
>no
>we know you have cp on them
>then charge me
>decrypt your drives first
>no
>???

Last I checked, furry porn ain't illegal in the US.

heh np, its all in the cloud :^)

opening the door breaks the electircal circuit to my devices.
i dont need to even be home to frantically pull the plug.
luks takes care of the rest

only downside is having to properly shut things down before i can go out, but i dont ever go outside lol

>"I wish I knew sir but I encrypted the drives using prime composites from arithmetic progressions of prime numbers 20 number sets long starting with numbers that are at least 18 digits long which I've helped discover about 10 of these number sets that I stored inside the drive which was set to auto unlock with OS access but is now bricked due to a lack of USB key and 2 USB key softwares that layer the OS so even with a password to get through the login, the second USB key software will lock keyboard, mouse, and display access"
>"I really wish I could help but my PC is bricked"

Wait, not giving your password to the police is a crime punishable by jail time?
What kind of prison state is this?

Have they ever heard of the fifth amendment?

Australia, and most of the common wealth of England look it up.

heh i thought encryption was illegal in those countries anyway.
damn this rabbit hole never ends.

>The Fifth Amendment, at its most basic level, protects suspects from being forced to disclose incriminating evidence. In this instance, however, the authorities said they already know there's child porn on the drives, so Rawls' constitutional rights aren't compromised.
>the fifth amendment only applies when we decided it applies ;-P

> Forensic examination also disclosed that Doe [Rawls] had downloaded thousands of files known by their "hash" values to be child pornography. The files, however, were not on the Mac Pro, but instead had been stored on the encrypted external hard drives. Accordingly, the files themselves could not be accessed.

> The court also noted that the authorities "found [on the Mac Book Pro] one image depicting a pubescent girl in a sexually suggestive position and logs that suggested the user had visited groups with titles common in child exploitation." They also said the man's sister had "reported" that her brother showed her hundreds of pictures and videos of child pornography. All of this, according to the appeals court, meant that the lower court lawfully ordered Rawls to unlock the drives.

They had plenty of evidence this guy frequents CP sites, and has downloaded a bunch of it.

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>you have 20 seconds
>dd
If you had a whole day this might work

It's a subtle difference.

"Tell me where you hid the body?"
-"No."
Perfectly legal, constitutionally protected, have a good day. (Better answer: "...")

"Open this room in which I know you've hid the body"
-"No."
Perfect obstruction of justice, enjoy staying in jail indefinitely.

Shift+Alt+Z: Dismount all, wipe encyption keys from memory, and wipe cache.

>pull the plug
>always have your 50 inch neodymium magnet near by
>make a few gyrations with it
>have fun trying to recover literally anything

not really equivalent.
They can just open the room with a warrant.

If they know it's on the hard drive already, why can't they prove it in court without forcing him to give up the password?
Fuck pedophiles but not at the expense of my rights, no thanks.

yeah i read the article. if they have as much evidence as they say, why dont they just charge him?

is everyone in this thread a pedophile or just a paranoid schizophrenic

>what is quantum reassembly???

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>"Open this room in which I know you've hid the body"
>-"I dont have the key."
>"oh is that so have a good day sir"

>please open hard drive sir
>i dont got key
>haha as if we would believe that, back to jail paedo

>paranoid schizophrenic
it has it's perks

see

basically. If they already know just prove it in court and arrest him.
Really makes you think... about how we need to ban all guns and open the borders.

no it doesn't

No, actually it is legal (I mean imagine a bank or big company running without any form of encryption) but when the authorities ask you, you have no choice but to decrypt it, and the court will rule out a single individual really fast and easy, without a trial even. Basically 1920's Lenin's Russia

I don't know the answer to that. perhaps the authorities feel they can get a much bigger sentence in court if they have access to the drives as evidence as well? That's for the lawyers to find out...

gp-digital.org/world-map-of-encryption/
Not every country has rights like we do. Some countries don't allow end users to use any encryption at all.

maybe perhaps they couldnt actually prosecute without the evidence

So the headline is complete bullshit.
He got jailed for being a pedophile downloading CP.

Him being jailed had nothing to do with refusing to decrypt his hard drive. typical media.

>jailed for paedo
>umm can i have a fair trial please?
>no

hes already done 18 months, unless its some really fucked up CP, chances are he will be released for "time served" right after the trial.

Read the article, they wont let him out of jail until he decrypts the drives

media being dishonest in headlines for (you)'s, big surprise there.

Well i guess this poor black pedophile had his rights violated.
I think he should leverage the full force of the NAACP to fight legal battle for him.

Hope he wins, the whole point of rights is that everyone gets them...

Exactly, the judge orders you to open the room and you refuse, hence contempt of court, hence enjoy staying in jail until you feel like remembering the password.

Indeed, through a bizarro twist, having a key is not a crime, therefore "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply, meaning it's up to *you* to prove you don't have the key. And if you think you're the first person to try the "dog ate my homework"-approach to a judge ...

perhaps they think the drives contain OC and has proof he's spreading cp as well, I reckon that gets you a much bigger sentence.

it does sometimes, I'm usb key guy and this setup is real
No one is unhackable but when you mix autistic with paranoid schizophrenia you have this usb key setup and encrypted drives through multiplied prime composites. I have nothing to hide but security through obscurity is the worst security

this.

you're wasting time and effort protecting yourself from a threat that doesn't exist

>zip the important stuff
>change the .zip to a .mp4
NSA btfo

you sound like an alphabet agent trying to convince me to put my guard down

damn you caught me

I know what government dogs are like, I used to be one

I remember just recently a law is passed that all companies in Aus would have to implement backdoors in their product, so when the authority ask, users' data can be decrypted by the said companies.

I really don't know how this would impact our day to day life.

>Exactly, the judge orders you to open the room and you refuse, hence contempt of court, hence enjoy staying in jail until you feel like remembering the password.
No, that is not how warrants work.
The police stop by and ask you to let them in. You say no. They leave. Your rights are respected.
The police go to the court, and get a warrant. They come to your house and say open up search warrant. If you don't open up they bust in your door and come in anyway to search.

What you are suggesting is that you can somehow be forced to voluntarily incriminate yourself or face jailtime. That is not how it is supposed to work in America.

LEGAL: police use your fingerprints or face ID to unlock devices.
ILLEGAL: police force you to disclose personal passwords to incriminate yourself.

how much did they pay you to post on Jow Forums

>cryptsetup luksErase /dev/sda2
>pull the power cord
"Hi officer, how's your day?"

Carlos Ghosn

It's the same for everyone. Base pay plus time and grade for assigned duties. I shitpost off the clock

Any country that's not an union of self-governed states does not have federal services.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Handley
Christopher Handley did time for obscene manga, including some bestiality manga.

$file weird_fucking_mp4_that_do_not_play_with_vlc.mp4

-> : Zip archive data, at least v?[0x333] to extract

Neat, didn't know that subcommand existed

US law is in a weird fucking place when it comes to pass disclosures.
law.stackexchange.com/questions/1523/can-a-us-citizen-be-required-to-provide-the-authentication-key-for-encrypted-dat

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Again, the issue is not self-incrimination. The issue is opening a door. They don't want you to say "I murdered the bastard", they want you to say "the password to the door is 12345" because they want to know if there's a corpse behind it.

>entering a guilty plea bargain at the recommendation of Chase, under the belief that the jury chosen to judge him would not acquit him of the obscenity charges if they were shown the images in question.
fucking normies

you make the future seem hopeless and pointless.

Why the fuck didn't he opt for a bench trial? A goddamn jury will throw him in jail for less.

You can use that tortured logic to allow the government to compel any speech, effectively erasing all of your rights. Get fucked, statist glownigger.

USA is a weird place in general right now.
Nobody seems to care anymore. Except those enveloped by hate.

I remember seeing suggestions of a master government key or to ban encryption. This has and will always be a power struggle. Everything is for sale now.

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* on someone else's computer, who will hand over the data to FBI

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They would have to endure the smell in my room while they are carrying my servers out. After that they would need to sift through terrabytes of memes, waifus and shocking content. Whatever they do, I win.

same with Australia
>government raises retirement age, again
>everyone is like; that sucks
however
>France raises retirement age by 1 year
>widescale riots
I don't know when this country became cucked
>can't protest with government permission

Not so, the solution is simple: use a mechanism that hides the information's existence, either by having a scheme that, when provided with a second password, gives a harmless bunch of files (and it's impossible to tell whether or not there *are* multiple passwords being used, or if so how many; or by embedding the information in a file (kinda like how .rar embeddings were done on Jow Forums images years ago); or by storing the file off-site, and only you know the proper URL to download it

You can't be compelled to reveal the existence of information, but once it's known to exist, the government can compell you to show it.

In addition, the Supreme Court has yet to rule on a decisive interpretation. So YMMV.

>can't protest without government permission
typo

>everyone is like: that sucks
They lost the will to survive.

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Bet my ass Macron will find a way to enforce that because he cannot tolerate that his "authority" is defied.

Shift Alt Command Power, then power.
Let it boot up to zero the RAM.

I thought in the us you have a constitutional right to not give over anything that is self encriminating, wouldn't an encryption key fall under that?

Just turn off PC

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>The court also noted that the authorities "found [on the Mac Book Pro] one image depicting a pubescent girl in a sexually suggestive position
>a pubescent girl
There are PRE-pubescent thots in instagram posting sexually suggestive content. Why doesn't the police arrest their parents and send the kids to juvenile detention camps?