Unironically arch is best distro

setting arch up in the beginning isn't a pain at all, it's one of the easiest things you can do. you can't even fuck up the chroot phase lol. just copy lines off the wiki just like literally everyone else does with arch

this

Gentoo is unironically better because of muh configurability. If you don't care about that and just want business experience then just install Kubuntu or Win10.
Also
>systemd

if you bad configure kernel enjoy nothing works

This. Arch is still a great distro, but Gentoo is on another level (except you need a massive neckbeard to use it)

It really isn't that hard, just look at all your parts using lspci and select the stuff you need. And if you're that worried about messing it up, genkernel exists

arch isn't a great distro.
any distro can configure a kernel. it's not hard. even if things go wrong you can chroot into your install and reconfigure it with make menuconfig. ideally, you have a backup kernel (via genkernel) anyways. you can have multiple kernels to boot into, dude.

>decide to try arch
>download and run the iso
>doesn't work?!
>oh default installer doesn't work with my laptop lol
>download the custom installer or whatever it's called
>takes some time figuring out but not too bad
>yaourt is pretty cool
>try to install postgresql from default repo
>does not work
What a stupid distro.

>huge repo
Meme. The AUR is third party. The official repos are small.

t. haven't used Arch even for a day

they're literal brainlets and should stay away from any situation where they have to do things by themselves

Not sure about user-friendly in regarding the userbase, especially their forums, sometimes you're really stuck and they insist in reading the manual when things aren't that black and white

They have a great wiki though

neither are you linux hobbyists or people who work
you're ricing hobbyists, plain and simple
arch is objectively a shitty distro where you're hardly doing anything yourself. talk about customization, a net install of ubuntu provides even more of it.

>great wiki
*best wiki
you can usually find solutions to problems you have on other distros

never broke on me

>coulnt install arch
>probably didnt read ANY of the wiki pages
the problem was between the keyboard and the chair

Is this a good linoox for someone wanting to move away from Windows for the first time? I'm a programmer if it matters, I've only used gentoo in college and can't say I liked it much. The only thing I really need from an OS is being able to google any problem/issues I have instead of figuring it out myself by reading machine code because I'm a dumbass.

shitty distro for people who think customizing i3gaps by copying lines off a wiki and repurposing other's dotfiles is building your system from scratch
>checklist defence tactics
yup. your distro is shit and you making excuses for it being stitched together poorly doesn't change the fact that arch linux, together with systemd, is a frankenstein piece of shit.
any *buntu will suffice and you will enjoy it
you might also like devuan
arch is shitty for anyone doing anything but ricing configs

To rectify it was actually ubuntu that I used in college, I accidentally wrote gentoo because that's what I read on a post before sending mine.

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Serious question:

What is a good alternative to Arch that is rolling release, has minimal install, decent package manager and decent repository size?

I wanted to use Void, but the lack of packages and small community turn me away from it.

It's ok, but in linux pretty much every single thing requires manual configuration tweaks. That's why I prefer to use regular distros instead. Also there's no reason to manually install arch if so many steps can be automated. And very new packages means you're more likely to experience critical bugs.
That being said the AUR is amazing. I'm probably never going to switch from Manjaro because of the AUR.

Bonus: No systemd.

Void has its own version of the AUR that works perfectly. Otherwise install Gentoo (literally any distro that has a netinstall will work for you)
>no systemd
Install Gentoo(/Devuan)
Consider Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc. They are buntu based but the devs actually put passion into making them separate distros. An easy transition to linux from windows might also be found in Mint.
based manjaroposter

>defense* tactics
>no argument was made to arch system itself
sure is a frankenstein distro since you have to put it all together, but notice something, when something goes wrong, you always know who to blame and if you dont, maybe you should try to learn how to put together a system yourself and not copy from someone else

keep trying to figure out why thous "something went wrong" pop ups keep showing while the only thing you did was update packages and install vlc. ubuntu is shit

look at this retard pretending as if nothing is wrong with arch.
the type of brainlet to think think that pacman is god's gift to the earth, or that systemd is the second coming of christ lmao
you could talk about large components like that but even with the base set of tools arch provides (like arch-chroot, pacman, and even the fucking AUR) it's still a piece of shit and at the end of the day no one who uses arch actually puts anything together themselves. the entire distro setup is functionally capable of being automated but archlets want to be able to repeat all of the steps in what could be an automated process just so they can pretend they made the system themselves. protip: they didn't stray one metre from the install guide they found on r/unixporn.
when everything wrong with arch is found in the software fuckups that it provides and you still think it's the user's fault, you have officially exposed yourself for being a retard.
but unfortunately, that is, quite literally, every arch user. so no, arch is a shitty distro and those from r/unixporn shilling for it doesn't change that fact.

>i want a distro to build myself from the ground up
Debian, Gentoo, Void, etc.
Arch is not from the ground up, and never will be.

i don't base my os on screenfetch ability

i need packages that aren't up to date
i need a lot of them

arch can't provide.

its the best gateway linux for beginners
great wiki and forums
it just werks

installing arch is literally reading one fuckin wiki page you've got to be a brainlet
and
>yaourt
its discontinued faggot

This, and also anarchy, arcolinux, archlabs (few minutes of architect installation and it just werks)

is mint good?

The package manager or repository doesn't do a good job of checking dependencies. It will update X, but not even create a sym-link for programs that call older versions of X. Including system critical programs.

Resulting in X breaking all the fucking time on it.

So for those of you calling Arch bad, what's the alternative if you explicitly want rolling release instead of having to manually update everything on whatever the release cycle is? Gentoo and Tumbleweed?

I'd probably actually be using Gentoo if I cared to compile everything from source, but I'm fine not doing so. Meanwhile, with Tumbleweed, I don't use KDE (So that being well-integrated isn't an advantage for me) and I couldn't stand YaST when I did try it.

If you don't care that much about ricing and having to compile some software yourself, and if this was 2017/start of 2018, I'd say Solus. It was clean and simple.

I never used Gentoo but have used Tumbleweed. Works fine in terms of stability, but my laptop hates opensuse for some reason, it's the distro that takes longer to load or shutdown out of any distro I've tried. It's like it's heavier than all the other distros combined even out of the box.

Arch isn't bad, people are just memeing. As long as you check their website once or twice per month to see if some update might've done some harm and how to fix it, you should be good.

>99% ricers use it for customization
>el 56% redditors use it for upboats
also
>ricing
sudo pacman -S i3-gaps pywall htop
wal ~/Pictures/zoomerwave.png
>google "github neato dotfiles"
>import them
man neofetch
>google "how to load image on neofetch"
htop && disown
neofetch && scrot ~/1337.png

I'm aware of the upsides, since I've been running it for a couple years now and haven't run into any issues that weren't entirely self-inflicted. I'm mostly just wondering if the people bashing it actually have reasons and can recommend alternatives, or if they're just retards spouting memes.

I can understand the complaints about not splitting packages, or going hard on dependencies, but in general I'm a fan of Arch's rolling release + minimal deviation from upstream philosophy.

why is the AUR such a big deal to people when all GNU/Linux distros can build any tarball from any source????

It's just memes yeah. Almost all distros that exist are good if you aren't a retard thinking you're on windows

>Breaks

Void, of course.

stop shilling void. I don't want the next generation of reddittors flocking to muh comfy, minimal distro.

I use void btw

Shitty distros for shitty people. Carries all the faults of arch linux.

I guess people don't read the news feed on archlinux.org, which informs in advance of anything that can potentially break.

Retard

Artix is the best

>implying

you're still a brainlet who broke your system when using Arch

8 years ago today I installed arch.
I have been on the same install all this time, the break meme only applies to retards that are clueless.

>arch is a shitty distro because its users are retarded and they like doing stupid shit
way to go there mate, you really showed us the disadvantages of arch linux, it's not like you just winged at the people who hate and produced no actual arguments against the distro, no not at all

name one

>update
>sound stops working in Firefox
>don't bother fixing it in a year
>fix takes literally seconds
>mfw

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Arch -> Manjaro is the only stable bleeding shit out there.
And what it does it is doing it right.

that is not how you spell gentoo

also
>for no life virgins

No, but Clem is worth supporting anyway because he's anti israel

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>except you need a massive neckbeard to use it
Not really. I run Funtoo on my stationary systems and Arch on my laptop. Gentoo and Funtoo are documented as well as if not better than Arch. You can easily use any of these if you simply RTFM.

Most of the people who shit on arch are people that don't even know hot to git clone

I have literally never encountered anything like this over the last 7 years.

I just update blind daily, but I'm confident I can attend to any issues that might arise.

I usually update and then realize I forgot to look at the website.

I used Arch for a good amount of time. I set it up during a break from college and set up i3 and shit. It didn't break at all... while I only had a browser and a few terminal programs. As soon as I had to start installing all I needed for school (which, surprisingly, requires way more than just vim) it just wasn't as comfy and it was when shit started to break, now that I had a lot of packages with a lot of dependencies that I needed to use.
If I want a minimal shitposting machine, Arch is the way to go. To get real work done, I'll take debian or even ubuntu over it any day. I have little free time I'd rather use shitposting than reading update notes.

I've got two 4 year old installs, and I deleted a 6 year old install to free up some storage space. Arch is very stable once you've been through the ropes a couple of times, pretty much the same deal whenever you're getting used to any new distro.

>X breaks
Stale ass meme.

centralized updates

Arch is great except for systemd.