Given that all of the full-featured distros use systemd now, why should I ever bother with Linux? If I'm going to be using a bloated OS anyway to cover all my use cases, why should I not just be using macOS or Windows?
Given that all of the full-featured distros use systemd now, why should I ever bother with Linux...
Jace Diaz
Andrew Sullivan
Install MX Linux
James Gomez
or /ourdistro/
Mason Richardson
>2005
>even though launchd is good, we're not going to use it because Apple
>2010
>hey guys what if we reinvented launchd but worse
>199X
>the Windows model of bundling every dep with your binaries is terrible, good thing we're different
>201X
>hey guys what if docker, snap, appimage, ...
I'm convinced Linux distro maintainers are retarded. I can only hope other *nix systems or something new eats their marketshare eventually.
Maybe Fuschia or Genode will make it big and not be retarded.
Adrian Howard
OK, I'll try it and report back.
Robert Cox
Nathan Martin
>Maybe Fuschia or Genode will make it big and not be retarded.
PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN HOLY SHIT
Blake Turner
The next major OS as a Google product? Yes, that's exactly what we were looking for.
Wyatt Hall
>202X
>any OS existing
have fun with your ChromeBox terminal to GoogleCloud
Benjamin Scott
Fuschia is going to supplant at least Android eventually for obvious reasons.
And really if Genode keeps up their pace they may be able to convert people at an alarming pace. Simply due to the compatibility aspect.
ChromeOS is Linux based and already does a shitload of seamless integration between Linux native, LXC, and Android-emu.
A microkernel that can run other kernels and pass messages between them is hard to beat.
Literally just import your existing environment and add on anything new you want at no cost.
It's like a hyper hypervisor.
Xavier Foster
With Genode's latest announcements for Sculpt, I have a feeling it'll be quite usable in the near future.
Dylan Turner
OP here posting from MX Linux live USB.
Things I've noticed so far:
-systemd is installed but not handling init. just as a library for other things that depend on it. I understand the logic but I'm wary of it. I don't fully understand / have the time to probe what it's really allowed to do.
-they can't be bothered to get preview images working in the file picker? I thought we were past this a while ago.
-tearing. blame xfce I guess? another thing I thought was dealt already.
-audio / mixer actually works really well despite being based on pulseaudio.
-seems to handle .deb packages meant for ubuntu nicely.
-it has a good installer for nvidia proprietary drivers, which even attempts to set up bumblebee optimus, but the drivers themselves are very old.
Overall this looks promising, but the systemd components are sketchy.
Zachary Reyes
>systemd is installed but not handling init
Have they got logind running to handle GNOME/KDE shit that relies on it?
Jose Ross
Yes, among other things. Not sure how deep it goes.
Julian Flores
Fuck you, I'm going to cling onto Slackware and if I must I'll switch to NetBSD or Gentoo.
Charles Russell
but isn't that the logo for Guix?
Jonathan Ortiz
Yes. Gentoo is irrelevant in the current year.
Dylan Brooks
OK, but what does that have to do with MX?
Christian Peterson
Guix is not linux iirc. it's gnu/some-other-kernal, right?
Why use GNU/whatever, when I could use GNU/Linux, which I can refer to by the very cool and catchy "Linux"?
Also, INSTALL VOID
Jacob Lee
I thought it used linux-libre.
>Also, INSTALL VOID
this desu, im surprised void wasnt even mentioned in the thread peior to this post.
Camden Wright
isn't void dead since its creator disappeared and that other guy stole the donations?
Zachary Miller
Install Gentoo.
Jacob Gray
As long GuixSD makes it unnecessarily hard to install firmware, it can't be a competitor. Gentoo is still king.
Juan Harris
Use Artix, Void, Gentoo, or Devuan.