Why aren't you using OpenSUSE?

Yes.

I don't like rolling releases. I don't want to start up my computer one day and find that everything changed. Fuck arrogant developers.

Fuck yes. I will give it a try and report back

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>tfw opensuse servers are fast as fuck

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Because nobody else is using them?

>getting SSD for laptop
>find out btrfs has qualities which make it work better with SSD's

Would openSUSE with a WM be a good choice? Looking at this distro because it's somewhat "known" for its btrfs focus. I just want to be logged in and ready to start working quickly.

ssds are really damn quick to begin with, but my leap install from boot was insanely fast, faster than a xfs boot.

I figured it'd be fast in general if I'm using a WM and an SSD - it'd have to be. I recall the KDE spin booting slower than Neon or Kubuntu - obviously KDE is gonna slow them all down, but it was slower than the other two. Not sure how much of that was openSUSE itself and how much of it was the things it does with KDE.

leap is quicker than tumbleweed if that helps.

That's kinda odd, I would've expected it to be the same. I was gonna go Leap either way but it's nice to know it's the faster choice anyway, thanks for the info.

because it still uses systemd

Welcome man.

Because we are nerds, not idiots.

Because I use it. Comfy
OpenSUSE has better documentation, than Ubuntu.

OpenSUSE Leap exists for you.

Tried it. Had problems with mpv and went back to Fedora. Fedora is just better. Nothing breaks and still pretty up to date

There are more specific solutions to specific problems in ubuntu, it's a pain figuring out how to apply them to other distros.

Fedora exists.

KDE nukes boot times on any distro, it’s the best DE but it’s a bitch to boot

this

I first discovered linux after my windows 8.1 machine rebooted itself to install updates overnight with unsaved work still open. I was furious, and quickly found OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It was wonderful for about a year until I tried some distro hopping and eventually landed on Fedora KDE. So long as development continues, I will die a Fedora user, but I'll always remember that weird gecko distro fondly.

Unless plasma will break on arch, I'm not gonna distrohop
in the end, all distros achieve same thing for me

The install process has stopped and crashed at 96% the first time and now it is stuck at 97%. What do?

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just wipe and do it over again, usually the install's arent long.

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It failed both times so maybe opensuse isn't the right os for my compaq.

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Net or full?

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Full tumbleweed with no network connections

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try leap then upgrade the fun way, your call honestly.

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Kde added a splash screen that makes you think it takes more time to boot than it does. Just disable that and things are booting much faster.

Thanks, I will try it in the morning

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but who was camera?

Tumbleweed is the rolling release version, use Leap if you want stable snapshot releases

What was the deciding factor when choosing between SUSE and Fedora?

btrfs is not stable when filled to capacity. it's one of the two times I experienced data loss (of course I keep backups, but still a PITA)

How behind leap is?
I might install openSUSE and stick with it if leap is stable, packages not that ancient like compared to Debian.

I'd be using all of 20GB of it, it's just for the root partition so shit opens faster. /home is a separate SATA drive.

20gb ssd? user...

why does opensuse partition root as btrfs while home is xfs?
any reason why not keep it consistent?

Worded that weird. The drive is 120GB and I was only planning on using 20 of it. Unless somehow it works better to have a root partition that's 6x the standard future-proof size.

brtfs has cow which is the backbone of the snapper
xfs is all around good and doesn't have capacity issues so you can fill it up fast and keep solid performance

Is BTRFS reliable? Compared to ext4 for example
I'm too lazy to keep backups

>is brtfs reliable
pic, it's still "new"
The snapshot function is really nice though. KDE and snapshot and filepicker, openSUSE is my choice distro desu

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Imagine if microsoft made a distro. That's openPEPE

It's been in the linux kernel since '08 and in '12 it was considered outside testing, but it still has some real problems and rhel said they were dropping support for it

OpenPepe Devs are much more competent than MS.

fuck enterprise shit

>rhel dropping support for BTRFS
So... Who else is supporting it?
BTRFS sounds nice
>better file system
literally, I mean. Snapshots are cool too.
How it's compared to LVM snapshots?

Please, spoonfeed me, I'm on a phone currently. But will consider installing openSUSE and be with big boys if I'll like answers.
Thank you very much, sirs.

I have just installed Leap with Mate de. After 10 years of shitfest called Ubuntu.

Snapshot terminology is vague these days. Now LVM snapshots are more like replications, it's a full copy stored off site. btrfs snapshots are metadata records that are on site and can be drawn from live to replace and rollback a system with less issue
Each btrfs snapshot will have a unique ID and can be booted from on the same system, running ontop of the over hanging volume.

Because it's old technology with no beneficial features for me. I use NixOS.

Btrfs snapshots seem great in theory, but try using btrfs snapshots & subvolumes heavily, and watch your system get absolutely crippled. I learned this the hard way on an Arch system with automated snapshots, with Docker running many containers using the btrfs back-end. I ended up with hundreds of subvolumes and it took me quite a while to figure out that all the subvolumes were the reason I kept having the system lock up.

On a related note to snapshots and linux distros, one of the primary reason I switched to NixOS is because instead of snapshotting the whole OS you can just keep your configuration in git, and Nix can perfectly recreate the system, so it's way more efficient than keeping snapshots or backups of the whole OS.

because it's fucking garbage

Currently? Not that far, since new version vas released I think in the summer, but of course it will get more behind as the time goes on.

Does it mean if I'll install openSUSE LEAP and use snapshots, I'll have pretty solid OS?
I've read, though, that leap uses pretty old kernel... Not sure if this is an issue for ryzen CPU...

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I installed it, wifi didn't work, switched to Manjaro.

also, since you mention booting from a btrfs snapshot, I want to throw out there that NixOS lets you boot to old configurations (called profiles) and it automatically puts a new boot entry in every time you change the system, you can tag or name your system configs. Whenever I have a setup that works well and is stable for a month or so, I'll keep that config and prune old configs. This has been a lifesaver when I update or change something and the system breaks when i need to get work done, I just reboot into the last working setup. NixOS is far more advanced in this aspect than any other system I've used: snapshots, backups, windows system restore/repair and OS X time machine just don't compare to NixOS in this aspect. The big downside on NixOS is that the system configuration has a steep learning curve for anyone that isn't familiar with functional programming, and there are not many packages compared to Gentoo, Arch or *BSD (and writing packages is much more difficult than any other system, because of the way Nix forces the system to build in a deterministic way.)

I've tried using OpenSUSE but I found the installer to be a bitch to use. I was having trouble with the bootloader not getting installer properly or something because I chose the encrypted drive option and I couldn't be bothered troubleshooting it. Ubuntu has a much easier installer that actually works.

I'm not sure, I'm currently trying to decide between openSUSE and Fedora KDE.

>Using WiFi in 2019
Botnet

Yes my dude

Depends how often you want to upgrade the system.

I like when I read people saying stuff like "x didn't work on distro A but worked fine on distro B"
They are all running the linux kernel, if something works on one distro then it will work on any distro.
You damn kids are just too spoiled.
In my day, we had to order Slackware discs, because downloading an OS was way too slow. My laptop didn't even have a wifi card. To get wireless, I had to buy a pcmcia card, and use custom compiled kernel modules to get wireless working, and there was no GUI interface to configure wifi. This was back when automounting was a newfangled feature on linux, and Ubuntu was just an idea in the mind of some crazy south african that thought linux should be used by people who aren't tech savvy.
How many of you fuckers have even compiled a linux kernel?
When I started using Linux it was still standard practice to write xorg.conf by hand.
What would you fuckers do if you installed linux and all you got when it booted up was a blank terminal?

>what would you do if you installed linux and all you got when it booted up was blank terminal?
Take my smartphone and google for the answers.
>hurr Durr, because all distros use Linux kernel, it's same everywhere
Not all distros use same kernel version
Even if version is same, not necessarily kernel is same
Not all distros have same libraries preinstalled
Not all distros use same directories
Not all distros have same config files

No one cares how hard it was to you. There were people before you who had it much harder. To them (You) are spoiled kid.

Shitty community, shitty defaults, not enough companies use it so it will get less attention when things go wrong. Its not better than Debian. Not sure why it exists. Not sure why any distros other than Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora exist desu.

Tried it a few times, also again the other week in a VM, but it just feels like a poor man's fedora.

I have to admit when I've tried it, it's been as a workstation, not as a server.

suse.com/company/history/
Basically redhat - usa, SUSE - Europe. Ubuntu - Africa, UK and India, Debian is dead, but it was USA too

Spoken like someone who has never had to jerk it to ascii porn. You realize that once upon a time people had to pay for pornography!?

Why you don't realize that it doesn't matter how hard it was for you back then?
You have no right to complain, faggot, there were people before you who had much harder times than you.
No one fucking cares, keep it to yourself or keep it to your grandchildren. Because it's excused when you old and dumb and near end of your life.