This is why women should be banned from STEM. What the fuck does this shit even mean? What the fuck is even "emotional intelligence" if not a retarded construct made up by dumbasses which score less than 100 on an IQ test?
And even assuming that by "emotional intelligence" she simply meant empathy, how is that more important than logic and coding skills in programming? Yes, being able to communicate with other developers is certainly important, but to imply that it matters more than being able to write good code? WTF.
People who browse or post on twitter should all be quarantined from the rest of the internet. Then we wouldn't have to hear about your retard v retard battles.
Joshua Barnes
low IQ nigger detected
Jason Morris
Women are stinky holes.
John Howard
"I was fired from my job because I couldn't code for shit, but I'm gonna sue them becuase I have "emotional intelligence", which they don't"
Matthew Watson
Objective truth or logic is not the aim. Socially awkward males have a position they want. The rhetoric is just window dressing for a way to usurp the industry completely for the normies.
Michael Lewis
>please take the science part out of Computer Science
Dominic Myers
I'm not going to pretend that sometimes harsh people on GitHub wear me down, but it's all part of the job. If people didn't vehemently defend their positions then we'd end up with shit software.
Lincoln Reed
She's right you know. It's much easier to spend 20 minutes collecting requirements and brainstorming solutions than spewing out shite software that's already been written somewhere else and that ends up not being needed.
Aaron Allen
Industrypilled
Brandon Roberts
Hear me out, but there is an element to truth to this. Software development is not the same as computer science. You're developing a product. You need to be able to communicate well, be able to work well on a team. A fat neckbeard virgin who is a genius programmer but unable to understand the requirements of the software he is developing is useless. I'm guessing this is what she means by "emotional intelligence", who knows though.
Jaxson Collins
How does critical thinking correlate to emotional intelligence? Are you fucking stupid?
Alexander Moore
Being able to bring up your logical ideas while not being an anxious spergy wreck. People will take you more seriously.
Grayson Morales
She's kind of right, you know. Talking to clients, managers and even users is part of being a competent developer. (Also, even if you don't care about your own competence, it's not like jobs in the software industry are exempt from office politics.)
Joseph Harris
None of that has to do with "emotional intelligence" you could be an a-social fucking nitwit and still explain your idea without needing "emotional intelligence."
Camden Phillips
If you can't talk to people good luck maintaining a job.
Easton Robinson
It’s not nearly as important as skill, but low emotional intelligence, read: aspergers, is detrimental to the work output of a team.
Gabriel Hernandez
>emotional intelligence Translation: If it were up to me I would only hire women and minorities, and I know that I don't need to be politically correct with white or asian males. I will also yield to an inferior decision if not doing so means hurting an "unpriviledged" persons feelings.
Cooper Murphy
Public speaking, leadership, and communication classes exist for a reason. Saying that anyone can communicate their ideas without emotional intelligence is like saying anyone can code without computer science fundamentals.
Carter Allen
"Software engineers", "developers" and "coders" are not STEM you ingrate.
Ian Martinez
Every job has two components to it. The first is your technical skill as a software engineer, the other is your skill as a social engineer. Positioning, knowing your place in the hierarchy, how to placate your superiors without compromising yourself, delivering what they want alongside what they need, winning favors, and reading social cues.
Learn to view people as irrational, unreliable fleshy machines: harder to predict but suggestible and prone to manipulation like any other.
Christian Gutierrez
You do know that Emotional Intelligence is literally an official psychology term made by some white dude? But you seething brainlet couldn't wrap your head around that, now could you? All cause some bitch made fun of your dev skills so your so insecure you have to belittle what she literally calls a "hot take".
You're really giving this xigger the benefit of the doubt
Julian Barnes
I have not talked to an end user in years
Landon Ward
This but unironically Game the system Every conversation
Logan Cox
Yeah, and did you know it failed all follow up studies? It's not because someone made it up that you should believe it.
Jaxson Evans
Collegues?
Jaxson Williams
Being socially literate and emotional intelligence are two entirely different things moron.
Jackson Lee
A retarded construct made up by smart people FOR dumbasses (especially women) who would score less than 100 on an IQ test otherwise.
Sebastian Kelly
So you think you dont need the skills listed under the term "emotional intelligence" in a company?
Christopher Stewart
It means that you can't just scream at your co-workers when they do stuff in a sub-optimal order, aspie.
Levi Baker
This is the future OP. The big brains are automating the work, leaving most white collar people in bullshit jobs, expect more of this dumbass girls doing jackshit, its not a bug of capitalism its a feature!
Brayden Kelly
Woman here. I have been working as a software e*ngineer for ten years now. I have worked on game engines, machine learning, data science, pretty much anything fun.
There’s a push because it honestly is a lot harder grtting into tech as a woman. There’s all these weird hoops like I have to be “one of the guys” to fit in and any sign of femininity is taken as a weakness. For example, most women who have worked in nonfrontend programming I’ve seen over the years avoid makeup or use minimal. They also speek like an octave deeper around teammates than around me. Most women just weren’t encouraged like a lot of men are to get into tech when they do show an interest. I know like some men I had to fight tooth and nail to get where I am today—there’s a disparity here with how accessible tech is made to men vs women. Heck, even on IRC most of the women I know on freenode and the like go to great lengths to conceal the fact that they’re women because people will automatically treat them with less respect.
I have a trans woman friend who confirmed what she experienced as a male in tech and what she experiences passing as a woman in tech. Its very interesting how insecure or jusf plain shitty men get about women doing intellectual things, almost as if it threatens some of them.
All in all I’ve worked with mostly pleasant people but its stupid to pretend this reality doesnt exist and that women have less opportunity to succeed in tech than men om average.
Like my male friend who I just taught to code just got a high paying job which took me years ro get to that point when i was on my own.
Yes there are womens reachout orgs that help women get into tech, but the reason they exist is because texh is currently an extremely masculine space. I know that sounds absurd but if uve ever worked with a mostly female team vs a mostly male team ull notice differences. I wish tech to be more accessible and pleasant for all.
Evan Harris
of course it's a masculine space. until very recently, tech was purely the domain of fucking losers who can't get a gf
Adrian Powell
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There are a lot of psychological terms that appear in the literature that turn out to be complete bullshit. For example, the idea of "many intelligence's" has largely been shown to be rubbish. When you break intelligence up into sub components, they're all highly correlated with each other.
Jacob Miller
fpbp
Hunter Roberts
men in tech are often the people what women didn't pay attention to for their whole lives (source: me, every CS major at my uni). It's not a surprise that they don't know how to treat women properly
Charles Campbell
Nice cherry picking. Acknowledge the whole post.
Jacob Jenkins
How has this entire board not recognized this as pasta already?
Lucas Evans
>"Margret, this code is completely broken." >"But I feel like I did a good job." >"You're right, it's fine, I apologize."
I'm glad I'm gay.
Evan Martin
I almost hope white Americans and the Chinese just stop helping the rest of the world. Let it burn.
Blake Lee
Jesus christ, humans don't just level up their skill tree. People want to work with people, how is that hard to understand?
Yeah, you can be technically superb and an asshole if you really want to be, but someone who's technically superb and not an asshole will get that job any day of the week.
Jayden Bennett
OMG i thought shed at least be some model. U know like rock your cock and than destroy your software by using emotionally intelligent coders whod leave shitloads of bugs
Jayden Collins
>white Americans and Chinese stop helping the world If what they have done is "helping" then i'm the fucking pope
Owen Green
the chinese are burning the world indeed, not sure how that helps anyone though.
David Cruz
You can't succeed in your career without either.
Henry Lopez
I just want to let you know, that as a male in tech, I actually do everything I can to undermine women.
Seriously, go fuck yourself. You take all the cushy pink collar jobs and easy administrative jobs in HR and now you're coming for the one office job left for men.
Fuck off and go be a garbage-women if you want to change a male centric industry. Oh yeah, you won't because that's too dirty.
Women are all selfish, weak, manipulative bitches who do whatever it takes to avoid an actual hard days works.
The fun part is I have a great relationship with my GF and get along just fine with women, I'm not even an sperg, I make sure to undermine women the same way they undermine men. You'll never know I'm doing it., but if you want to come into the last domain I had, I will make sure I do what I can to make that hard for you.
I probably have borderline personality disorder, which is why I'm such a vindictive prick. But I don't care, I will manipulate and gaslight you just like a woman. Afterall, I'm not sexist, I'm just selfish looking out for my own best interest.
Why do people act like collecting requirements is so hard? Are there really programmers who can't look at you in the face and ask what you want the software to do and iron out any ambiguities so there's no surprises in the final product?
Tyler Baker
The basement dweebs are not in post because they look, sound or even smell nice. Think it out.
Nolan Green
she's coping see, i have a high EQ and IQ. rationally i know she's just feeling inferior that she's incapable of programming
"Emotional intelligence"??? Is she discriminating against those with a mental disability that causes problems with emotional intelligence, but who make excellent developers, such as those on the autism spectrum. Because that's what it looks like.
Jace Young
Nah, not really. Being a good code monkey doesn't mean you can articulate an argument or win people over on a contentious issue. Nobody gives a shit if you think you know what you're doing if you just sound like a condescending pseudo-intellectual or whiny child that hasn't bothered to understand or care about the users they're supposedly trying to help.
Parker Thomas
Ironically most women in tech also fall into that category. (spergs)
Mason Butler
This
Julian Wright
There are only a very few programmers who are so autistic that they cannot effectively communicate their project. You have some bigoted preconceptions about programmers and need to check them. 99% of programmers don't need a manager to translate for them, and the 1% who do are the elite, so even if it were necessary to translate it's more efficient and effective to just get another experienced programmer to translate for them, not an ex journalist with no experience and no idea what they're saying or talking about.
Nolan Nelson
this image makes me seething
Leo Perez
I'd rather babysit 5 autists into actually contributing to the group than have one of these token vagina influencers incapable of anything outside of social media posts.
Jose Morales
>software e*nigger tits or didn't happen
Bentley Russell
stale pasta
Joshua Ross
Woah wall of text tl;dr Chatty Cathy
Jack Kelly
100% of the time people who boast about their "emotional intelligence" are insecure about their lack of knowledge and ability. 99% of the time they lack not only knowledge and ability but also, ironically, emotional intelligence.
Juan Ramirez
One small example: we let them live in houses, and saved them from the mud-huts, and gave them the opportunity to contribute to modern society
oh yeah i guess men haven't been able to do any of those things for the past 50 years. not like we have made progress or anything geeze when will men get it togther
Landon Brown
This. Most developers are actually shit at doing anything more than stringing together libraries. I don't want code monkeys to get any "clever" ideas, they'll just write a bunch of unmaintainable antipatterns into the software. Team leads, architects, project managers, these people need social skills because they're the ones doing the real thinking and communicating. Normal developers just need to shut the fuck up and implement the spec.
Zachary Brown
> ??? To where
Lucas Foster
emotional intelligence means fuck introvert and smart people
Isaac Watson
She's right, you know. Employers would rather higher a less qualified but more sociable candidate than qualified one who smells like cheese and can't make small talk.
Most of them can't. Many are "customer pleasers" who try to accommodate everyone's requests and make shit software (this is, for instance, why most of Microsoft's stuff is such a fucking mess), or have become dogmatic about something or another and don't listen to customers asking for things that they don't think are necessary or appropriate for the product. Also, distinguishing between what a customer says they want and what they really want can be difficult. I don't know how many times I've seen hundreds of man-hours wasted on niche features that Customer X says they want, but never use when it's delivered, because it turns out being a dumb fucking idea.
The best product managers I've ever known would also make excellent military interrogators, now that I think about it.
Lucas Peterson
It doesn't mean that at all. AOC could teach all of us a few things if we could listen objectively.
Nothing any of you post changes the fact that you're AMD about women not wanting to touch your dingaling because you can code.
Dev skills are entirely useless if you can't interact with people on an emotional level because companies want people who can play with the rest of the kids in the sandbox including the trannies and women, not sit in a cupboard by yourself pretending to be superior.
You're genuinely the snowflakes now. Fuck me, these delicious tears are flowing from so many of you. At least fake it so you can get a job or something neetboy.
Jose Hall
>Saying that anyone can communicate their ideas without emotional intelligence is like saying anyone can code without computer science fundamentals. Millions of programmers works without know computer science or even know computer science exist
Hunter Campbell
Because Martin Garden get assrape by IQ, He instead of debunk IQ Myth build other Myth multiple intelligences.
Zachary Scott
>genius programmer but unable to understand the requirements of the software You need emotional intelligence in order to figure out what colours those buttons sjould have. Go back to huffpo you retard.
Nolan King
There's literature for harry potter. This doesn't mean that it exists. Also
Luke Myers
No self respecting developer will touch this janky ass "machine learning" shit. It's just statistics applied by people who don't understand statistics. The algorithms aren't racist, they're just wrong because there's no rigour to them.
I'm not mad about people entering the field. I'm mad about retards diluting "software developer" even further. Do good work, make nice things, and don't preach at me. I'll respect you. That's not what these people are doing. These sjws are totally tone deaf, and people hate them because of their militant application of fantasy ideas. >Emotional intelligence What a fucking joke. What it really means is "I feel like you're better than me, so I'm going to hurt you". 2019 and we're still acting like goddamn chimpanzees.
Jaxon Campbell
What emotional intelligence basically boils down to is not being an INTJ fuckwit who thinks they know everything about everything.
Grayson Barnes
>fuckwit >INT* pick one
Christopher Cox
>responding to a blatantly obvious meta-contrarian shill in anno domini 2019 Why?
Leo Sullivan
>Dev skills are entirely useless if you can't interact with people on an emotional level You're not wrong, but see
Ethan Brooks
If we assume everyone is speaking insincerely then real dialogue can never happen.
Lincoln Roberts
It is, and programming is neither computer science nor about computers (see the oft misinterpreted (by brainlets) )
Charles Howard
Dev skill: perform at or exceeding spec Emotional intelligence: relax the spec
Jack Gomez
Sorry but cs really isn't a science in the same way math isn't a science
Gavin Rogers
But aren't most disciplines in applied math considered science? CS is effectively applied math, but not so much theoretical math.
Gabriel Scott
Fields that use the scientific method are sciences.
Evan Baker
Then computer science definitely at least include science even if parts of it are a bit more pure than science typically is.
