/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Assemble a part list
pcpartpicker.com/
>Example gaming builds; click on blue titles to see notes
pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>How to assemble a PC
youtube.com/watch?v=69WFt6_dF8g
Want help?
>State the budget & CURRENCY
>Post at least some attempt at a parts list
>List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work
>For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photo editing, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)

CPUs based on current pricing:
>Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos)
>R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming
>R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs
>i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti | If you can't afford to spend 350 dollar on a CPU go with AMD.
>R7 2700/X - Best value high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform
>Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT

RAM:
>Always choose at least a two stick kit; 2x 8GB is recommended
>CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000CL15 or 3400CL16 is ideal
>All AMD chipsets and Intel Z chipsets support XMP

Graphics cards based on current pricing:
>Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty
1080p
>GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices for older, less demanding or very well optimized titles
>RTX 2060 thanks to 6gb vram only good for 1080p or as a short-term solution; consider 1070/Ti or Vega56 ONLY if on sale
1440p
>RTX 2070; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 ONLY if on sale
>RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match
2160p (4K)
>RTX 2080 is the standard choice but Vega7 launch is soon so better wait
>RTX 2080Ti is better for 4K but expensive

General:
>PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING
>A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
>Bottleneck checkers are worthless
>rentry.co/pcbg-more

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pcpartpicker.com/list/mPc77W
pcpartpicker.com/list/GpWCWD
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de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbDFLJ
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LogicalIncrements recommends RAM kits with single DIMMs in every tier below Exceptional ($1828 USD). Have they fucking lost their minds?
You can argue it's acceptable for grandma's email machine that only has 4GB of RAM, because to my knowledge DDR4 DIMMs do not come in smaller sizes than 4GB.

>800 watts
>still slower than AMD

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>tfw OP is actually using your OP
brings a tear to my eye

are hardcore overclockers the most autistic people in tech?

>2070 instead of 2060
>3400 cl16 ram ???
>1070 for 1440p
One of the worst OP theres been in a while

>RX 570, RX 580 are standard choices
>Now that nvidia supports freesync
Cringe.

69636509
69636521
>maybe if i play dumb enough i'll get a couple (you)s
not today

these are all my posts btw

9900k or ryzen?? Will I actually feel the difference using ryzen? The tdp and less heat seems good thing is will I notice a difference I will see this PC to play wow and some Adobe stuff for work

>200 mhz is a "hardcore overclock"
cope more faggot

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9900K, ryzen is okay but if you want the best right now get Intel.

I don't care about the best unless it's a huge difference.?.

Just picked up a node 202, I should be able to fit a 120mm aio in the GPU chamber to cool my nano vega 56 right? probably gonna drill a kraken bracket for mounting.

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9700k beats the 2700x in games even though it has fewer threads
So get either that or the 9900k for high FPS gaming, low FPS it doesn't matter

Hey guys bought 2060 rtx, since my 670 gtx died, i need a gpu quick, just done setting it all up, tested on 3dmark, how is my score?

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In high FPS gaming and Adobe yes; you're paying a premium, but there's nothing better. If rendering and other multithreaded apps or playing at 60FPS, the price difference isn't worth it.

Hey guys, anyone know anything about this brand, ADATA?

1 TB SSD for ~$100 sounds very enticing.

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what are you talking about retard

good budget ssd with dram, wont be as good as mx500 or samsung but itll do the trick

get gassed shlomo

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i guess il need cpu upgrade, i think the performance is impressive, from what i seen it rivals 1080..but im waiting for ryzen 3000 reveal before upgrading. im only playing at 1080p

Building my first PC any quick startguide to SSD there too much information on and products and bottleneck stuff how do I not fuck up?

oh look the jewish shill has arrived

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Only reason I got an 8700 last year over a Ryzen build was because it was at some flash sale at my local store, it was $270 compared to the usual $320
do I fit in lads I only gayme on it

I plan to use it just for loading my vidya games. Already have an mx500 for OS & a few games & several programs. Thanks man.

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great buy

I'll bet you the vast majority of people paying extra for K versions of CPUs never overclock anyway, so an 8700 isn't a bad choice.

literally me
bought a 2500k in 2011, still running it today, never overclocked
i even put a big ass push pull noctua fan on it

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How do you overclock the 9900k anyways it's already running hot with out any oc

cute nano
You should be able to do that, but consider the large die before committing to it. Not any AIO will do.
Also you're definitely going to want some airflow on that weaker power delivery.

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pretty much why i only buy non k versions OC on these new cpu barely pull in any fps anyway

1) 380 radiator;
2) delid it without destroying it;
3) LN2.

i'm getting tired of waiting for zen 2, lads
I WANT ONE NOW

Got tired of waiting so I got a 2060 to replace my 290. Liking it a lot so far, will definitely be using this until 4k60fps is a decent price

>package arrived at local facility yesterday morning
>supposed to arrive soon
>still not out for delivery

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I've had that happen before and it got delivered at like 7pm. Never said out for delivery at any point. There's still hope user

I have a strange urge to upgrade to x470, b-die ram, and a huge cooler despite not overclocking at all

AMD PR here. Zen 2 is right around the corner so be just a little bit more patient and look forward to it!

>got an used i7-6900k system for cheap from my employer
>thought it would be totally obsolete
>it's actually perfectly fine and was thrown out for no appearant reason
Feels great, just threw in a SSD because they shredded the old one and I'm done.
The graphics card is a pretty shitty quadro though so I need to throw in a new one and I alrady put it in a decent case instead of the plastic one it came in.
Any suggestions on what GPU would fit the rest of the build? I can spend a bit more if I have to but I'd like to keep the overall cost at around this level.
Keep in mind except mobo and CPU the specs might not be 100% accurate, but the brand and capacity is correct afaik even if the exact model isn't.
pcpartpicker.com/list/tndcLJ

My last build, paid for prime, got everything, apart from my 2700x which sat in the warehouse lonely and cold until the day after

No need to OC with PBO

what's the highest GPU you would pair with a i5 2500k @ 4.6ghz?

Anything.

mama su, please...
i need it

Oh and should I maybe wait for the new Radeon card? 16 GB vram sound enticing.

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Realistically something like an RX 580 or GTX 1060 6GB would be a pretty good match.

if you want to play games at 4k with costum texture packs, sure wait for the radeon 7

GTX 1660 Ti is coming out in two weeks. Wait for benchmarks.

ebay.ca/itm/AS-IS-GIGABYTE-GA-X79-UD3-rev-1-0-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/183637405676

Should I risk it? Seller doesn't know if it works or not. Is there anything he could do to determine its functionality without having a compatible CPU?

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i'm in the market for the a ~700 dollar GPU for vidya. which should i buy?

will look into these, thank you lads. Anything else I'd need for a smooth experience? I want a case fan but I'll probably just buy whatever they have in store at the local electronics store.a

Should I be concerned if a motherboard I have reports voltage drops under load of about 0.200v over the 12v rail but another motherboard doesn't (and the multimeter doesn't either)?

I want to think it's a faulty sensor but it does fluctuate as though there's an actual voltage drop there. I'm not sure if this motherboard is lying to me.

No.

You could get a rtx 2080 for that price range

Wait for Radeon VII to come out in 5 days or whatever and compare to a 2080.

A non-shit multimeter (or even better, an oscilloscope) is likely more accurate than the mobo sensors

Zen 2 will be AM4 right?

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Should I rice my case with LL120 fans and a Corsair Commander Pro? I want an all white look and my RGB components are set to white but my old 120mm case fans are those red Cooler Master ones. Doesn't really mesh with the look.

Yes.

Yes, and 2+. Nothing after though.

Yeah and it should work on X470/B450 and maybe earlier, with BIOS update performed by a current AM4 processor

Thanks to the nice user that recommended the Micro Center deal.

You saved my ass

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We all talk about cable management inside our computers
how about the cables on the outside? How the fuck do I manage those? Ideally I'd love a big fat braid on the whole lot of them together.

Just use cable holders/brackets/ties/hoses/conduits etc
Braids sound like shit especially if you have to change it

I see. I don't have an oscilloscope around but if it helps, I have a different PSU which the "good" mobo reports to have a considerable voltage drop under load, the multimeter reports the same, and somehow the motherboard with the supposedly fucked up sensor reports something around 0.200v lower than the rest as well. So on that old PSU that 12v rail was dropping to about 11,7v, and the other motherboard just told me 11.5v or so. It's the opinion of a motherboard and a mediocre multimeter against another motherboard.

IDK
maybe ask /diy/ on their "stupid questions" or /ohm/ threads, for electronics questions

Is this cheapo build worth it?
pcpartpicker.com/list/mPc77W

What Linux operating system should you install on my laptop?

my specifications.
Windows 10 home single language
Processor: AMD E1-2100 APU with Radeon (TM) HD graphics 1.00 GHz
Installed memory (Ram): 2.00 GB (1.47 GB available)
Operating system type: 64-bit operating system, x64 processor
Windows (C :) 368 GB available from 439GB
RECOVERY (D :) 2.69 GB available from 24.0 GB

It's ok but consider pirating windows and spend the extra on another stick of RAM for dual channel

Maybe look in the /fglt/ general
I've used Debian and it's decent but somewhat dated packages

watts
now post AMD gpus vs nvidia

I've been saving and slowly adding parts to my PC as I get the extra cash to spend. However I am at a crossroads about my CPU.

I currently have an i5-7500 in the STRIX H270 F motherboard. Here are the two different plans I've come up with for upgrading. My main goal is keep the budget from going through the roof while also future-proofing as best I can.

pcpartpicker.com/list/GpWCWD

pcpartpicker.com/list/dQgHTB

Pls help. I also really like NZXT, if you couldn't tell.

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Ryzen 1700 or 2600? I need it for streaming. 2600 has better single but the 1700 has those extra cores.

Budget:
1200eur
No need for peripherals, also no need for waiting for next gen CPU/GPU, since they won't be out for at least 6 months, and I don't want to wait that long.

What I got so far:
EVGA 750W G3
16gb ripjaws 3200 RAM
1Tb WD Blue WD10EZEX
Phantek enthoo pro
What I'm looking for:
AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, since it's the best price/performance combo. SSD would also be great.
With the above in mind, my budget for CPU, GPU, SSD and mobo is about 800-900eur. What do I get?
de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbDFLJ

Unless you have a garbage CPU that you want to upgrade, keep what you have until Zen2; that is unless you're targeting high framerates. A 7500 is fine for 1080p gaming... for now.

What performance could I expect from it though? I'm a first timer and I'm trying to stay on the cheaper side

What was intel thinking with the 9400F and upcoming KF SKUs? No integrated graphics wtf -- that's one of their selling points, even if most people also have GPUs.

I should have mentioned I'm at 1440 ultrawide. My fps really varies depending on the game. I'd like to keep it more consistently above 60.

I'm not sure
I have a 2600x and RX 590 but mostly play CSGO, and get 150-200fps @ 1080p ultra

they're jews and want more money, so they're selling borked chips for you guessed it, more money

(Me)
Meant GPU* of course.
What GPU do you have?

Scrapped the HDD unless you already possess it. You can go for a 650W PSU instead of 750W. You have the budget for a better GPU like a 2060; depends of your monitor at this point. You also have the budget for a 2600X instead of a 2600, update the bios of the Tomahawk and enjoy negative voltage offset with PBO.

Start here and customize as you see fit.
>de.pcpartpicker.com/list/jvFM7W

Gigabyte RTX 2080 OC 8gb

All the parts I purchased are in the links

surprised first reply wasn't install gentoo
for more up to date packages I recommend manjaro or ubuntu

I'd rather have both an HDD and SSD. Why only SSD?

me(newfag)

replying to

Could it run tiddyfall the second?

Send back that shit RAM. 2400 at CAS 15? Yikes. No point going for the 7700K over the 8700K because now more cores is a thing. Little point going for another 500GB SSD, unless you really need that scratch drive for video editing. reminder that NVMe is useless for gaming. I'd pick a big 1TB instead of two 500GB any day. Gigabyte has the best VRMs on consumer boards according to Buildzoid, so that's where we're going.
>pcpartpicker.com/list/dfgHTB

>Why only SSD?
Good question. With 1TB usually you can toss all your stuff unless you're a big anime porn archiver. Personally, I would definitively set a big HDD for backups/file history, and strongly suggest to anyone to do so as well.

NVMe is indeed a meme but I definitely notice the difference when booting up VMs and shit unoptimized programs

Yeah the RAM I got on sale, but I will def consider replacing it. I really like that motherboard too.

I don't know anything about NVMe, I just heard it was a huge improvement over SATA.

Many thanks for the advice.

>two weeks
Source?

>I just heard it was a huge improvement over SATA
Completely depends of your workload. As I've alluded to, great for video editing and moving big files frequently. For boot and loading times, no advantage over a quality SATA SSD. Obviously if you go from garbage SATA to Samsung NVMe, it's going to be way better, no question about it; but that's because it was garbage. So I'm all in for a quality 1TB SATA and a HDD 5400RPM backup solution.

As for the mobo, Gigabyte is a weird company like that. They can knock it out of the park like those sweet Z390 VRMs, and do some weird screw-ups like the Vega 56 OC.

>LogicalIncrements
Been shit for what seems like years

Feb 15

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You're a shithead if you wrote the notes about the 2060's VRAM, the 2070 as recommended for 1440p, etc. Anyway I wrote most of the rest of the OP, so claiming that the OP is "yours" just makes you all that much more stupid

From a theoretical standpoint, he's not wrong.

R5 2600, RTX 2060, MX500 1TB SSD if you can afford that in eurobux. If not, drop to RX 570 / 580 depending on pricing

>op drone coping over rtx 2060
>8100 and 8400 not recommended but athelon and 2200g is
Op is a fag and these threads are always shit

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>single channel with ryzen
>buyng windows when cracks are perfected
>no ssd

Fixed: pcpartpicker.com/list/cZMgjy

>buying anything from intel below 9600k
>buying intel at all

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