Is free software communism?

Yes, and it works because there is no scarcity with software.

>moral and social decay
>from a commie
wew

>Capitalism doesn't make sense in the long term
works OK for me for over 200 years
meanwhile communist """economy""" collapses in few decades every time

>he probably thinks sjws are communist
wew

The state enforces this right under communism

Coincidentally the socialist state grows as all of the happens.

Yeah, but it works for longer terms than communism.

>tfw you get market crashes every few decades and most of world is poor but it just werks™

It is the only thing that makes sense in the long term faggot.

Where? There has been no proper socialist state since 50s

>private property is enforced in socialism
wew

Pro tip. Capitalism is not dead when the market crashes. That's just a mechanism for when something goes in the wrong direction to regulate shit by force.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

>NEETs are now part of the "temporarily embarrassed millionaire" club while being poorer than the niggers and mexicans they were tricked into fighting against by the wealthy who are becoming even more wealthy thanks to them
Absolute lmao

>haha these commies don't know capitalism is a boom bust cycle

>it doesn't die it just gets really broken to the point of uselessness

so what's the alternative? cause socialism clearly proved not to be

anarchist communism

>cause socialism clearly proved not to be
How so?

in what socialist state (existing currently or in the past) would you rather live instead of where you live today?

marx-leninist states never advanced past state capitalism, all elements of capitalist production were retained

DRM, intellectual property and copyrights of any kind (including copyleft) are all communism.

so why not try it out another time, they clearly haven't tried hard enough

guess what - you can start a commune or a cooperative under capitalism and try it out by yourself
unless you really believe in world wide workers revolution needed to implement communist ideas

I'm looking to go to venezuela when I have the money, better health and education. If only jp morgan stops being a cunt.

every (btw there is no currently existing socialist state)

based, but not abolishing capitalism won't matter much. I'm working in a coop rn and its pretty good experience

Are roads communism?

You must be quite worldly if you're prepared to attack any number of countries on their livability. But my guess is you're just going to repeat talking points you've heard on the internet from your mother's basement while having zero real-world experience in those situations. After all, those with little knowledge are much easier to manipulate.

You're free to make profit with free software and are in no obligation to share those profits with others.

Freedom is America and America is not communism

How about Russia. Daddy trump and the republican party seem to have a certain fondness for their country.

No.

Capitalism depends on the cyclical flow of income, e.g. workers having money to buy the products that they produce themselves etc

However capitalism works to undermine itself by creating wealth unequality, rewarding automation, allocating resources in non productive activities like finances etc

wow there are people this stupid

It's free as in freedom. There's plenty of commercial free software you dumb faggot.

Copyright, patent, and other bullshit like that are government regulations, which are inherently socialistic. Free Software licenses are an attempt to use what remains of the free market to give a safety net to people who want to combat these regulations. GPL is more communistic than others, but is still better than government granted monopolies on ideas as implemented in the previously listed concepts.
Ideas are NOT property. If you cannot defend it's """theft""" with a gun and physical barrier, it is not property. The sole reason for the necessity of a state in a theoretical Minarchist simulation (or early America for reference) is the judicial protection of property, as property only really exists if you're strong enough to protect it (Stirner was right about the "that's my toothbrush" shit, regardless if he was a faggot or not.) Ideas are not tangible, therefore, they should not reside under any kind of judicial protection.

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America is objectively shit and only deserves to be nuked

Thread should have ended here. Rest should off themselves.

No because I actually use them you dumbshit libtard

>socialism is when government does stuff
retard
Free Software is not inherently communist, but it is more communist than capitalist, especially GPL and GNU, which is best part of FOSS movement

>it's ok for a private company to be totalitarian and protected by the state
>it's not ok for a government company to be totalitarian and protected by the state

Including you, as you are one of the many posters who have posted after what you have highlighted :^)

This dolphin has got some sick gymnastics

If Venezuela is better, why not get your better health and education there?

>freedom is America
t. wagie consumer

>>socialism is when government does stuff
It is though. The government can fuck off. What have they ever done for me besides steal all my fucking money and leave me too poor to live on my own despite the fact I make good money?
Without government sanctioned monopolies, and the totalitarianism of the reserve banking system, free enterprise solves most problems. If not for the fact that competitors can be deplatformed by banks who are heavily invested in the pocket's of the United States' sacrosanct fiat petrodollar, there would be much more competition in the market.

Modern Russia is a capitalist oligarchy

>>>socialism is when government does stuff
>It is though.
According to whom? The socialist texts you've no doubt read?

What's with amerifats thinking that anything that the gubbermint pays for besides the military is gommunism

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But he just said he's planning to. You're not really this braindead, are ya?

Do you know how to read?
Most Venezuelans that come here because of "rich capitalist society" get trapped in here with poverty wages and can only go back thanks to government programs.

No it's libertarianism.

>moral and social decay
Tell that to china man.
youtube.com/watch?v=FfLnFVzfKBs
All these years of trying to achieve communism and they are fucked.
> bu-bu-tto notto reallu communismu!
Yes technically communism has never been tried but any attempt to getting to it has turned out ... Pretty gory. You people managed to kill more people alone in the 20th century(even if you remove natsoc) compared to all the rest of human existance.
Also you always did that to your own people.

>It is though. The government can fuck off.

I love when sheltered assholes who never had too give it a thought about simple things like where their clean water comes from and where their shit goes to when they flush boldly claim that no sir the government never done do anything for me

>It is though. The government can fuck off. What have they ever done for me besides steal all my fucking money and leave me too poor to live on my own despite the fact I make good money?
>socialism is about government
read fucking theory before posting stupid shit
>being socialist means supporting bourgeoisie government
yeah my ass, no actual socialist (demsucc liberals aren't socialists) supports government as they exist now

McCarthy Institute of absolutely true facts about communism

free software may be but open source is just a method for companies to offload some development cost to someone else and this is great since tech savy people can remove cia nigger code and compile from source. apache is the only licence there is. personally, i don't give a shit about who develops software or what their views are as long as they provide me code.

china is practically neo liberal shithole

>I'm looking to go to venezuela when I have the money, better health and education. If only jp morgan stops being a cunt.
AHAHAHAHA kaleb needs to see this.
Thank you user you made me laugh.

>I love when sheltered assholes who never had too give it a thought about simple things like where their clean water comes from and where their shit goes to when they flush boldly claim that no sir the government never done do anything for me
'd shit in the woods to save money if the government would let me, but that would be indecent exposure.

>too poor to live on my own despite the fact I make good money
LOL. Pretty sure there's government assistance available for you when you work at McDonalds my guy.

I don't get the joke

I'm sure you would, pajeet.

He said he was looking to once he had the money, better health and education. Why wait on health and education? If Venezuela is great, you should be able to get both of those things there; rather than getting it from some capitalist country.
No I don't know how to read, where's this "here" you're talking about and where in his post did he say that he was a Venezuelan trapped in a capitalist society?

If it is free by choice then no, it is simply free software. If it is required to be free and that requirement is upheld using force with no hope at appealing that requirement then it is communism.

White people don't get welfare easily. My father is terminally ill and he still doesn't qualify because he ain't a nigger.

peak liberalism. 'Murica!

>He said he was looking to once he had the money, better health and education.
businessinsider.com/a-guide-to-proper-comma-use-2013-9
You also should look for better education.

It originally was an attempt to get to communism. Until they realised it was a bad idea so they decided to do something else.
Also what they are at now is not neo liberalism but rather something called state capitalism(here i gave you bait will you bite?) where pretty much every company is part of the government.
Dont worry though i am pretty sure the karl marx anime will breed new love for communism in the young minds of chinese men and women... Unless it doesn't all implode.

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Because he needs money to travel, dipshit. Not only are you low IQ, but you're clearly very sheltered and have no grasp on how the real world works outside of that basement you call a bedroom.

Such a good argument. Alas, you have laid waste to all my poorly constructed points.

You have no argument, you just don't know how to read.
Try going to school because you're not ready to use the internet.

China had attempt at communism with Mao but he failed epically so Deng threw it out of window and just shifted to capitalism

He is a poor lad living in Venezuela.
Waiting till the american troops to go all mortal kombat on maduro.
You can find his twitter @kaleb ,he also has a website and indo not know if he responds to emails. i am pretty sure he would LOVE to speak with you.

You didn't really have an argument, just a question, which he answered before you even replied to him LMAO

Is he the "No I will not give you my twitter name." guy?
He doesn't look poor at all and his twitter is private, are you sure he's not a bot?
Anyway, I've talked with enough people from Venezuela and most of them just want to go back.

State capitalism = gommunism

>go all mortal kombat on maduro
underage b&

Oops sorry meant to write @KalebPrime

state capitalism = captalism

woke
regards, amadeo bordiga

I was arguing that he should get his education in Venezuela. Which was phrased as a question. He never answered why he wanted to wait to get his education first.

Chinks love their Pooh though.

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Because he has no money to fly there. Are you stupid

>Communism is forced collectivism.
>Free software is made by volunteers.

More like anarchy or voluntarism or some such?

I'm amazed you even figured out how to post here with us today. Do you have an assistant?

No faggot, its voluntary.

> capitalism
> china
I will at least i will commend you for not falling into my "state capitalism" bait and just say "see capitalism is bad".
He(Deng) continued pulled back on communism with a socialist model along with a one(1)(ichi)(eνα)(eins)(uno) pro free market choice and that was to take part in the global market. Immediately the moment he did that china got real growth.
I wont lie to you even today they are much MUCH more supportive of a free market but saying they are anywhere near capitalist is just wrong and plain stupid.

anarchist communism?

Oh yeah pooh is a national symbol of china.

I understand your point