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Is Tree style tabs not good enough?

what are the options for windows?

I dont ever use windows but its the thing on my school and I can cope with it as emacs is working pretty good but need a nice browser

Is Vivaldi really that bad? I really like the level of customization

use chrome with uBlock

It's good workaround, but I think Vivaldi's better.

use chrome with uBlock

firefox with librefox settings, some botnet for things I can't access with librefox (netflix etc.)

use chrome with uBlock

use chrome with uBlock

use chrome with uBlock

think im gonna try firefox with adblock plus

main: FF stable
backup: chromium, seamonkey
fuck botnet/spynet: icecat, tor browser

I also use MyPal (special xp/win2k3 build of Palememe) on my dedicated XP shitbox.

you'd better
use chrome with uBlock

I use Opera & Chrome.

Some porn & streaming sites are banned in my country so I use Opera’s free VPN to access those. I also have some bookmarks from my old Chrome use linked to Opera by G-mail. I also play games on it. I use Opera for most other purposes as well. So, I use Opera.
Chrome has some bookmarks linked with my iPad. I also use it for listening to songs on YouTube. So I use Chrome.

I really don’t care about my privacy. I mean, it’s not like for most (or all) of us our our browsing history is important. I would only care if I knew Google fucked me with my e-mail.

I’m not big on technology so I don’t use additional components.

I use Vivaldi and Iron.

I've fixed that chart so it's more realistic

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>seamonkey
>no images or formatting

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>being this autistic

It's bait. A bait worse than OPs pic.

>cuckzilla
>chromium
>excellent
Why is OP such a massive faggot ?

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fixed your chart.

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Based

This is actually on point. Do you have a source for the IceCat one, though? Also, did you verify if that paramater changes anything? AFAIK, one of IceCat's requirements is that the browser must not connect to anything on its own. So I think that telemetry parameter is a dead switch.

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I haven't done an in-depth check myself, I only noticed that it's locked to true much like in mainline Firefox.

uh, that's strange. It was never locked to true in any FF I've ever installed (normal, ESR or Nightly). I'm currently on Nightly and it's set to false.

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It's been an issue for awhile tho
forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8249862.html?sid=4f5dcf248cc556bb8c71dc8d80686660

>brave
warosu.org/g/thread/S69748437

I tried using Iridium but I just can't get over the goddamn Chrome aesthetics. I hate the fat tabs, the shitty look, I just hate it, so I went back to Pale Moon.

There's no way to make it look more like legacy FF, is there?

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No idea. For contrary reasons, I prefer Iridium (faster for me: but when is it ever updated?)

Tried Qutebrowser and is quite good. Anyone has used it extensively?

Undercity?

I use opera for just the built in vpn, and sidebar whatsapp things.

>IceCat
toolkit.telemetry.enabled is locked to true or false based on compile settings (see firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/toolkit/components/telemetry/telemetry/internals/preferences.html) and doesn't do much itself. It influences the behaviour of other about:config entries like toolkit.telemetry.unified though.
Also the version present in Fedora's repos doesn't have this problem. I'm too lazy to check the official binaries (although I can't think of any reason how GNU fucked up like this, if it's true).

Lynx

>What browser are you using?
Firefox Beta
>[Optional] What additional components do you recommend? and why?
user.js to have all about:config tweaks in one place and prevent updates from reverting values.
policies.json depending on your situation (e.g. if the updater is enabled).
>[Optional] why is the browser you're using better than others?
I wouldn't necessarily call it better, but it has all the things I want. There are a multitude of maintained addons, it offers a browser engine that isn't Blink, it is highly customizable (although some things could be less obscure) and since I compile my browsers from source I like their whole build system.
As for why the Beta version: I can't be bothered to keep up with Nightly's short update cycle (plus I never got PGO working with it) and I've had more problems compiling the release version than the beta.

Browser fingerprinting

Yeah, I use Brave browser
How could you tell?

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"""they""" told me

>What browser are you using?
Ungoogled Chromium
>[Optional] What additional components do you recommend? and why?
uBlock Origin and a DE integration extension.
>[Optional] why is the browser you're using better than others?
Quick to set up, no need to fiddle with a million configs like firecucks. Has GPU accelerated video decode on Linux. Blink > whatever Mozilla tacked onto FF this time.

>DE integration extension
like?

Plasma Browser Integration, Chrome GNOME Shell, GSConnect Browser Extension, browser-mpris

I stand corrected then.

I re-edited the chart based on the new information.

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Very nice chart, even though it's missing a few browser now.

Icecat with uBlock and uMatrix installed, LibreJs disabled.

Anyone else getting constant network protocol errors on Firefox?

Nope. Never seen that on desktop nor mobile.

Can someone post some up to date guides on debotneting Firefox?

Since I'm compiling it from source anyway, are there things I ought to do besides disabling EME capability?

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Is there a problem using canary?

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It's the exact same spyware as regular chrome. Ungoogled Chromium is the only Blink-based browser that anybody should consider.

Nah, it's just a skin on top of Chromium.

What's the deal with Opera being a purported botnet now? Have not heard of this before.

(circa 2008)

>Can someone post some up to date guides on debotneting Firefox?
spyware.neocities.org/guides/firefox.html#Other_Guides
privacytools.io/#about_config
github.com/intika/Librefox
When it comes to about:config tweaks I would cross-check with github.com/ghacksuserjs/ghacks-user.js to see what those changes do.
>Since I'm compiling it from source anyway, are there things I ought to do besides disabling EME capability?
If you're using a repo other than the release one, then add
ac_add_options --enable-update-channel=release
otherwise toolkit.telemetry.enabled will be locked to true and prevent you from disabling data collection in about:telemetry (the data won't be send as telemetry reporting is off by default for custom builds, but still...).
Personally I disable a bunch of other stuff (most notably the updater, crashreporter and WebRTC), but that's just a preference of mine.
Depending on how powerful your CPU is you might also want to tweak the optimization parameters.

Thanks.
>I disable a bunch of other stuff (most notably the updater, crashreporter and WebRTC)
All of that is disabled via user.js/about:config?
>Depending on how powerful your CPU is you might also want to tweak the optimization parameters
You mean like -O3 and --funroll-loops? Will it really make a difference?

Still worth mentioning the text browsers

w3m (I prefer it over lynx due to image support)

I also quite like links (as the the graphical mode (links -g) might be the most usable text based browser, though requires X, it's available for windows too in both text and graphical text mode)

Never used uzbl, I don't know if it's text based, but it looks pretty damn good.

There's also surf, the suckless browser, though it's not text based

>All of that is disabled via user.js/about:config?
No, just parts of FF I don't find all that useful and speed up building time when disable. Stuff like parental controls and such.
>You mean like -O3 and --funroll-loops? Will it really make a difference?
I never got -O3 working or LTO for that matter. I use
ac_add_options "--enable-optimize=-O2 -march=native"
ac_add_options "RUSTFLAGS=-C opt-level=2 -C target-cpu=native"
ac_add_options MOZ_PGO=1

I did quick benchmark with Speedometer 2.0 not too long ago. Please note that this was done out of curiosity and not planned as some detailed test.
Date: 2019-02-08
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
Benchmark: Speedometer 2.0

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def:
ac_add_options --enable-optimize

opt:
ac_add_options "--enable-optimize=-O2 -march=native"
ac_add_options "RUSTFLAGS=-C opt-level=2 -C target-cpu=native"

opt + PGO:
ac_add_options "--enable-optimize=-O2 -march=native"
ac_add_options "RUSTFLAGS=-C opt-level=2 -C target-cpu=native"
ac_add_options MOZ_PGO=1

LTO: Never got it working

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Release (v65):
---
def: 57.5 +/- 0.74
opt: 67.2 +/- 1.3
opt + PGO: 76.4 +/- 0.67

Beta (v66):
---
def: 59.2 +/- 0.48
opt: 69.2 +/- 0.9
opt + PGO: 79.1 +/- 1.4

Nightly (v67):
---
def: 56.3 +/- 0.39
opt: 65.0 +/- 0.66
opt + PGO: not working

Pale Moon isn't placebo, as it has working XUL extensions, not like shitty Mozarella which dropped support for them.

The problem is that Pale Moon's considerably smaller community has to keep those extensions alive. It was easier back when FF extensions weren't considered unsupported by default.

Since we are on the topic: Does anybody have experience with using MOZ_ALLOW_LEGACY_EXTENSIONS, when building FF? Does it (still) allow you to enable support for XUL and NPAPI addons?

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This one is nice, but I agree with

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Ungoogled Chromium?

Fuck blink. Anyone who's not a total retard just modifies Firefox. Takes less than a minute

no xombrero or srware iron, its like you aren't even trying.

Iridium is better, because it has actual support and it's not just slapped together by some guy

pale moon here

>no complaints here

You really didn't do your research about Vivaldi, did you?

Thinking about leaving Firefox because Quantum is shit.
What do I do?

Palememe

>Quantum is shit
How come?

toolkit.telemetry.enabled is a poorly named setting - it means "if you decide to send telemetry, send extended telemetry". AFAIK it's also locked to true in Nightly and Beta Firefox, and locked to false in stable.

The actual sending of telemetry data is controlled by datareporting.healthreport.uploadEnabled, which is obviously set to false by default in Icecat.

Use ublock origin, it is the best adblocker period.

spyware.neocities.org/articles/browsers.html
ill just leave this here

It's a bit complicated with Vivaldi. The source code (vivaldi.com/source/) comes with a BSD license. Vivaldi's EULA on the other hand reads like your normal proprietary license agreement.

>the updater, crashreporter and WebRTC
There are options to enable those in ./configure --help but no options to disable them listed (Firefox 60).
Would --disable-webrtc, --disable-crashreporter and --disable-updater still work?
Which Firefox version are you running?

"No complaints here" means "there is nothing I disagree with in the placement of this portion of the chart," methinks

I think I need to make a copypasta for this just because i'm sick of typing it out all the time
If you want just privacy then sure use your little fork
But if you need both security and privacy then you'll want to be up to date all the time asap
Mozilla are the one rolling out security updates to firefox first
Just remember how they rolled out a patch right the next day after meltdown and spectre came out
And regarding privacy did you forget fitefox is open source?
Sure you'll need to click some options, but only the FIRST TIME you run it after installing
>disable statistics sharing from the options
That should be enough, but if you're paranoid you can also
>about:config
>disable all telemetry
>disable all experiments
There, you just made your own little waterfox, but with instant security updates, now stop being a mindless cuck and stop posting that gay shit

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Also why is chromium up there, have you forgotten about the constant black boxes it downloads

The current beta, so FF66.
Yes, using --disable- instead of --enable- disables those features. It's relatively common to only list one variant and imply the other (even though it would be smarter to list the opposite of the default, but for some reason many devs avoid this approach).

>chromium that high

Nigga are you retarded

Would you post the rest of your mozconfig?

Hello I am a brainlet; please help.
Ice cat sounds interesting, but I can't find a Windows download anywhere. Can someone please help me? Or does it not exist.

Only the ungoogled variant applies

It's not on Windows. You can compile it yourself, but the GNU people won't do it for you.
There's somebody on Github who compiles it for Windows and distributes a binary installer for it. But it's not official, so it's up to you whether or not you trust them enough.

Here: pastebin.com/XVRZc1J4
Mind you, there's quite a bit unnecessary stuff in there.

They stopped providing Windows builds as they'd have had to use non-free software to compile it. There are unofficial Windows builds out there and of course you could compile it yourself.

Alright. Thanks for the response

wiki.mozilla.org/Privacy/Privacy_Task_Force/firefox_about_config_privacy_tweeks

This has been useful too, at least for me.

Thanks.

Does Icecat block ads?

>icecat
>qutebrowser
>ungoogled-chromium
only usable browsers in 2019. kys if you're using anything else.

I thought seamonkey had backported botnet?