>Ryzen & EPYC combined win back significant space across desktop, mobile, and server segments
>Next-gen EPYC, code-named Rome, is on the horizon and using a 7 nanometer manufacturing process. Rome promises to bring better efficiency, more cores, and higher clocks, and threatens to take even more server share from Intel. Intel's former CEO Brian Krzanich told Barron's in mid-2018 that Intel would not lose server share to AMD in the second half of 2018, and Intel's job was to not allow AMD to capture "15-20 percent market share." The way AMD is trending, 15 percent share in a few years' time seems like a distinct possibility.
Thank you AMD. Thank you Lisa. Thank you AMDBros. Thank you 7nm. Thank you Ryzen 2. RIP in pieces Intel
Hopefully, Zen 2 will deliver the final headshot to Intel in terms of mindshare.
There's still plenty of people who live in the 2nd and 4th gen Intel processor era, who built their computer back then, and haven't watched any benchmarks or reviews ever since. They still think core i5 and 8GB is the default choice for high-end anything. They are the ones who are spouting "lol he buy AMD what a loser"
There might not be many of these people left, but everytime a PC builder noob asks for help, he will get misinformed by these non-updated people.
Owen Williams
No matter how bad Zen 2 will be, it will still outsell Intel.
Logan Fisher
No it won't, that is delusional. It will likely sell extremely well, and cut into Intel's market share, but Intel simply is still playing on a different scale.
they cant use the same shit they used before to stop OEM to buy amd this time around it will literally be fucking hilarious
Ryder Bennett
0nm when?
Landon Fisher
They can and in fact they are doing it. We just don't know it yet.
Austin Peterson
If AMD is so great then why do i not see any low wattage ryzen soc on the market? Where are all the 2500Us to replace gemini? Everything below 200€ is completely dominated by arm and intel. I want my fanless ryzen mini server already but nothing is on the horizon even though the processors apparently exist.
Noah Russell
Give it a few more months, HP and dell have started making desktops that have (essentially) laptop motherboards with 0 PCI-e slots but multiple SATA connectors.
I found one, took it of the tower it was in and dropped it into a micro ATX case.
I had a 2500k in a computer that died recently, for the first time I actually am honestly looking at AMD as a realistic option for when I make another computer, at least for CPU. GPU I'm not quite so sure but more open minded in general.
>Hopefully, Zen 2 will deliver the final headshot to Intel in terms of mindshare. How anybody can write this without cringing is beyond me
Ian Ward
>that is delusional Reality is delusional?
Joseph Diaz
Stay mad intard *noscopes intel* *dabs*
Camden Thompson
I hope Zen 2 kills Intel dead [spoiler]and they are forced to up their game and slash their prices.[/spoiler]
Brody Howard
Intel is unironically dying.
Jack Collins
>mobile
Does it? I barely see any Ryzen laptops for sale. They also have vastly inferior battery life going by the reviews.
Isaiah Stewart
brutal
Austin Green
I'm a ryzen owner, but I need Sunny cove to come and at least be competitive, so that we will have what the /v/ has with their consoles: an assurance that both Intel and AMD will be their absolute best at what they do.
Kinda mad at RTG being so stupid and uncompetitive.
Aiden Morales
>sunny cope yeah
Ethan Nguyen
Honestly, I understand that you root for AMD. But this nonsense tribalism/consolewar logic needs to stop. Competition needs to be here, or we will be stuck in placid waters like when Bulldozer crapped up.
The GPU Market has 3GB/6GB bullshit primarily because RTG is being that retarded stepbrother that AMD keeps locked up.
Nathaniel Cox
Seems they gained a little but it's nothing much to speak of since laptops are saturated by the low end rather than any premium, high margin models
Jayden King
they need to put out power-efficient Athlons with 2/4 setups to match those low-powered pentiums
Isaiah Martinez
>supports CPU division through 6 years of absolute dogshit while getting no r&d funding except from semi custom >still gets no budget while CPU is getting the big bucks and producing like 8 new dies a year and 3 brand new chipsets >why is rtg so bad??? Hurrrr must be dummies durrr
AMDfags are so dumb it hurts. Yea, I wonder why a division that can only afford like 2 new dies a year that arent fully paid for by third parties is struggling
Jaxson Martinez
Ryzen doesnt scale that low. Intel invested a ton of money getting IO/uncore power down to a minimum. Thats why their idle is good and why their core M/y shit actually works and sip power. AMD would need to overhaul zen's uncore, which doesnt look to be happening seeing as they're using 14nm IO dies
Benjamin Cooper
Intel's new retarded idea is to put one CPU on TOP of another CPU and you call RTG retarded?
Dominic Smith
Too bad I/O die doesn't scale below 14nm so Intel is also dead
Thomas Jones
Mobile doesn't really matter, server/cloud is the only market that's important for the shekel counters. 3.2% seems low, but note that's FOUR TIMES as a year ago.
Isaac Murphy
>shitty cope Intel will swing back with 5nm in 2023, amd will be king until then.
Connor Perez
>athlon 200ge Hopefully they make enough money to give rtg an actual budget
Andrew Robinson
>5nm in 2023 2033*
Christopher Johnson
Nah Intel is a vile piece of shit of a company and I couldn't be happier if they become irrelevant.
>Intel will swing back with 5nm in 2023 Wtf is intel doing are they just grabbing their greedy tits and dicks too much to bother getting a proper 7nm out? At this rate amd is going to be the leader in innovative cpu technology, but they'll still lag behind nvidia in gpu tech.
Ryan Smith
iToddlers btfo
Grayson Powell
>poozen 7nm to meet 14nm skylake in ipc/ghz from 2015
Ryder Miller
>a ton of money getting IO/uncore power down to a minimum.
That so called "investment" in performance is 95% created just by them gutting security by leaving their cpu cash unencrypted. And we have seen what that has brought them.
>he likes being jewed by monopolies >he wants people to keep buying Intel because that's what they always bought Incels don't realize that they actually benefit from Intel having real competition, even if they just want to keep buying exploit ridden botnet CPUs.
Oliver Nguyen
well being able to drive 4 4k resolution monitors and being cheap is a bit of a no no plus for 350 bucks that this thing asks for its a bargain actually
Parker Edwards
Serves Intel right. They have been fucking consumers since a long time. It is only natural that consumers will want some king of revenge.
When are we getting new APUs? I don't want to switch to Intel for an APU stronger than the 2400G
Camden Robinson
>It is only natural that consumers will want some king of revenge. since virtually 90% of this board seems to cling to their sandy bridge CPU's and looking for an upgrade right now, i assume that Ryzen 3xxx will sell like hot cakes in first few months (let's say IPC gains and clocks are awesome). ~15% right now? this shit will skyrocket to 25% by autumn on desktop space but that don't matter all too much when all the big bux are in server space; remember that Zen1 already quadrupled the share in server space in like 18months, Zen2/EBYN2 gonna eat Intel alive.
Justin Bell
Do we actually know the lineup for Zen 2 now that that image with the 8 core 3600 has been debunked?
>They can and in fact they are doing it. >We just don't know it yet.
We know it though. For example, from Lenovo's side, they gimped the AMD T480 variant A485 with a lower power limit and the CPU cannot go over 70 Celsius due power throttling. The T480 is configured with a significantly higher power limit. Also, Intel has yet to release TB3 for AMD laptops.
Ryan Johnson
>yet to release TB3 for AMD correct me please but i thought that Thunderbolt is royalty free for everyone to use since some time
Sebastian Carter
It's royalty free licensing. Intel just needs to be willing to license the fucking thing to begin with. This is all kikery anyway, OCuLink for consumers when.
Protip: neither company will be going out of business in your lifetime.
Jack Roberts
But Apple will.
Wyatt Lopez
Same on my a285. Got it because I do some work o video games and there's no other ryzen at this size really. It feels kind of annoying that I got something with a better igpu only to have it gimoed to marginally better than Intel stuff. Hopefully the ryzen mobile 3000 drivers come out soon and we can partially fix some of this crap. At least I can get a 16GB ram version in the uk.
Lucas Morgan
2700x here I'm happy to stick with this little fella for a long time runs cool at 4ghz completely stock with a decent noctura 15 cooler and gets great fps > 8700k oc/9900k housefire at same clocks uses half the power Can't image how good 2nd gen 7nm will be once the node matures I reckon 5ghz+ easy
>4670k build Xmas 2020 is when I'll finally upgrade but If I were to do it today I would lean on amd. Price /performance is perfect and Intel's practises lately has been a turn off.
I don't even foresee a a problem pushing my build that much longer that is how much the CPU segment has stagnated in the 2010's. The 90's to phenom II were crazy.
Colton Evans
I bought it at launch as well Kinda stuffed up on the mobo choice and got a arsecock x470 gaming k4 fatal1ty board with shit vrm but I don't oc and the boost goes to 4.3ghz fine anyway and hovers around 4ghz base I'm happy 202x is the time to upgrade I jumped the gun with Zen 1 and got a 1600x Much faster in multi thread but single sucked ass and ram issues kept me from running it beyond 2133mhz for the whole time I owned it Rmad the ram sold it off and got b die 3200 cl14 I had a 4ghz 4690 undervolted it was nice but was slow as balls past 2015 and really struggled talking 30fps minimums and hitches stuttering 100% load all the time Meanwhile my 2700x barely breaks 50 in games and is fantastic for multi-tasking I can run CPU heavy shit + game easily now
Nathan Nguyen
Epyc v1000? It has 12-25W socs.
Michael Myers
Interesting, I just use my home desktop for games which is why I can still push it. It's right at the edge though and when games are made with next gen consoles in mind that's when I think I will really notice deprecation. Still, the chip has served me well. I can't recall my OC settings but it is and has been undervolted @4.2ghz for years now. Just handle to win the silicon lottery with it.
Blake Morales
This. If AMD didn't release Ryzen, Intel would still be selling 4 core CPUs at retarded prices.
James Reed
They still are except they are just 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 24 core server chips binned for desktops hence the stupid thermals and power Let's not forget the motherboard socket lockout fiasco 4ghz is base clocks these days I'd u have decent cooling Idk pick up a 8700k used from some salty 9900k memelaker
That's not possible without dumping the cash, even the shit windows is using, in between processes. And that has been shown to be an even bigger performance hit.
