Commodore Amiga and other retro computers

The machine that ran the Prevue Channel.

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I got an Atari 8-bit recently; I remembered always wanting one as a kid (definitely after they weren't a thing anymore) so I picked one up. I don't have nostalgia for it, but it's still a lot of fun learning how it works and BBSing with it. Decent game library too.

The OS in the 90's was great, specially with added POSIX compatibility layer.

The Amiga was amazing, a real feat of engineering. Too bad Commodore management was so hilariously inept and incompetent, and basically snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

C64 was 10/10
I would actually buy one if offered.

i nearly failed my gcses playing sensible world of soccer instead of doing any revision when i had an Amiga
true story

To people actually enjoy playing games on 8 bit hardware that still severly held back the design and user experience? Some types of games could realize their potential on later 16 bit systems, but I don't think most games came even close to what the developers dreamt of until 3D came around.

Yes? Do you actually think this?

I am a little sad that the Amiga did not sell well in the US. Who knows what it could have become if it were able to compete with the likes of IBM, Apple, and Microsoft.

Maybe I'll buy one to play around with as a side project.

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I had a C64 when I was a kid in the late 80s. Then in around 92 (I think) we got an Amiga 1200 for Christmas that year. I only remember it being around that time because Commodore went bust like around a year or so later. As someone else mentioned above, it was an amazing machine for it's time, but the company was run like shit.

The Amiga was technologically incredible. While in the early 90s the Motorola was losing out to x86 in clock speeds, the Amiga made up for it with the AGA in graphics and sound. And then there was the tiny kernel and preemptive multitasking OS. It was an OS that could operate and multitask fully in as little as 250k address space.

Matt Dillion who started the DragonflyBSD project was an Amiga dev in the late 80s and early 90s, before moving onto FreeBSD and then starting DFBSD, which if you look into the design and implementation choices of DFBSD, shows.

There was a reason for a time computer's had turbo buttons, older games would go into hyperspeed due to the higher cpu clocks and you had to press it to slow the shit down to play the games.

What does that have to do with my post?

youtu.be/zB_UZsJUbwQ

>It was an OS that could operate and multitask fully in as little as 250k address space.

I've fucked around with AROS in VirtualBox and Gnome Boxes before and it's ridiculous how quick and light that OS is.

I'd like to see a picture of it or at least know what it's called.
I bought a 48k spectrum but it's faceplate was bent and the membrane was broken. never got around to replacing the parts but thanks to this thread I will finally buy replacements

Make way, superior platform coming through!

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>Literally designed as a cheap replacement for the Selectric typewriter
>Superior to anything

Fuck consumer gaymer shit, post workstations.

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Fuck workstations, post servers
Also
Any idea how to get into this thing? Seems to be running AIX 4.3, and it doesn't give me a login prompt through serial port 1. It's an RS/6000 7026-6H1. Four 450MHz RS64-III processors and 12GiB ram.

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>compromised by design
>safe
It's almost like the professionals know something the mouth breathing proles don't.

Here's the thing posting

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That must be inefficient as hell. What does it cost to run?

>That must be inefficient as hell.
It probably is. The PSUs are rated for 650W each, and it needs at least two of them, one for the Central Electronics Complex (CPU and Memory, top chassis) and another for the I/O chassis.
>What does it cost to run?
I have no clue, the longest I've ran it was around half an hour. I presume it must cost a shitload.
It came with this tape in the DDS drive. Any idea as to what it could be? The only other DDS drive I have is a DDS3, so I can't read it without taking the drive out of the RS/6000. I found some references to some security thing called "BOB" in the AIX literature, but I still don't know what the tape could be.

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I have one of these was my first computer, well what's left of it anyway, only can boot from floppy but even that is a bit picky because the floppy drives in these things were never that great.

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Amigas were - and shall forever remain - the best personal computers ever made. True hardware based multitasking - which is not something even today's best computing hardware can do - from the ground up.

They were exactly what personal computers should have been, and unfortunately Commodore just doomed themselves by being stupid and blowing too much money on BS instead of promoting the Amiga as what it was and still is: the best, ever.

I loved mine and miss it. I had gotten one as a teenager and my mom gave it away to the Salvation Army becuase it was apparently taking up too much space. Did so without consulting me too, I was pissed.

I wish it was the 90's again and I'd be behind my pimped out 1200...
Good times.

>*hands you handwritten list of numbers*
>man, you gotta call these boards.

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I'm already invested in the doors on this one board man. They carry any good echoes?

>"Sorry dude, I'm on the phone. I'll call them later."

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An Amiga thread and not a single mention eric schwartz, this really is the best board.

Who?

step aside, children .

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Except now you fucking ruined it.

No I did not. It has been a wholesome thread so far.
A nobody who needs fade away from memory.

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Apparently the latest version of Amiga was on Dec 31 2016.
And there seems to be a sizeable online community that still sells and uses Amiga software. This is pretty cool.

amigaos.net
amigaonthelake.com

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ITT

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Get out and stay out.

Thanks.

Then you get guys like this...

hackaday.com/2018/08/28/recreating-the-amiga-1200-pcb-from-pictures/

Wanna buy a piece of history?

ebay.co.uk/itm/Mike-Clarkes-Psygnosis-Amiga-1200/202593777418?hash=item2f2b87b70a:g:x0IAAOSwsupcYKvr:rk:23:pf:0

pic related is a Harlequin 48k rev G from ByteDelight
>case is sold separately

there are new cases, membranes and keyboards in many diffrent colors on ebay

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bump

I have one with a broken dip socket lying around for when i buy a proper soldering iron

they're pretty hard to kill. the main issue with them is the batteries on trapdoor ram cards dying and spraying their cummies all over the mainboard, causing the traces to completely corrode

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I got a 500 a while ago. also have a broken 1200. I'm too depressed to figure out what to do with them tho.

Rip

I'll tell you if you want.

Both software and hardware are being worked on all the time, it's the main hobby for the old Amiga fags.

>that one guy who was active after the amiga was already dead and most amiga fans don't even know about
No wonder.

I liked the themes and customization possibilities. It's the OG richers desktop.

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>this image
My eyes are bleeding.
What's the chemical? Can you react it with some base so it stops eating away things and then bridge solder components whose traces have failed?

its just battery acid from the NiCa batteries they used.

you could repair the trapdoor ram, but a replacement is only £20ish on ebay.

the main issue is that often it will drip onto the main board itself and it does too much damage for repair to be economical.

clean up is usually done with vinegar (to neutralise) and then isopropyl alcohol

no please stop
we dont need another desktop ricing thread
they are the cancer killing g

so is it acid or base?

Desktop website.

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Star LC-10

Cute.

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>Amigas were - and shall forever remain - the best personal computers ever made. True hardware based multitasking - which is not something even today's best computing hardware can do - from the ground up.
Nope. SMP/SMT + virtualization + IOMMU is better and safer than what the Amiga had. In terms of hardware before ~2010 though, you're right. Is this old pasta?
>They were exactly what personal computers should have been, and unfortunately Commodore just doomed themselves by being stupid and blowing too much money on BS instead of promoting the Amiga as what it was and still is: the best, ever.
They got thoroughly assraped by PCs performance wise once SB16 and 3D acceleration came out, to say nothing of the dire state of TCP/IP software for them. You're literally better off getting one of those serial to wifi bridges (or just a nullmodem cable and getty on the other end) and connecting to a *nix machine.

>Nope. SMP/SMT + virtualization + IOMMU is better and safer than what the Amiga had.
But Amiga was multiprocessor capable and had real hardware based virtualization. Far before x86 supported it.
>They got thoroughly assraped by PCs performance wise once SB16 and 3D acceleration came out, to say nothing of the dire state of TCP/IP software for them.
In the mid-late 90's, of course. The company making them was long dead by then.
Even so if you had the money, you could do some freaky things, like use the same graphics cards or sound cards as on PCs.
>to say nothing of the dire state of TCP/IP software for them.
There was at least 3 software packages for TCP/IP stacks in the 90's.

and all three sucked

Worked on my machine™

How? They were TCP/IP stacks, they did exactly what you told them to.

That's a Mac kiddo

Got one here

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>Amigafag posts a Mac in an Amiga thread
How many layers of irony are you on niggy?

No! Please don't!

Aesthetic

I thought he was just bantzing

Ah, an Australian model.

'Sup furfags.

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Bitmap UIs (especially the text) are my jam.

Oof, that's a shitty photo, should have grabbed my tripod the first time.

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I'm jealous. Why didn't I appreciate that old shit when I had the chance

Whoops.

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Good times, we never appreciate things until they are gone

Damn fucking right

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based and STPilled

>Sun Ultra
>in the deep, dark void

It's alkaline so you can use vinegar to neutralize it.

they were pretty cool machines and people came up with all kinds of interesting ideas to expand on them

What the fuck

ebay.co.uk/itm/202538125854

that's pretty cheap for this sort of history artefact

won't stay at 270 bucks but around here you already pay 300 upwards for a vanilla 1200

Lol the OS looks like a cheap classic MacOS copy

8 inch floppy disks are kind of crazy looking. Guess it's too much of a risk to even swap them out for 3.5 inch drives which are much easier to find replacement drives and media.

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They're alright, but I'm not really into old games and can't stand early consumer GUI systems in general, so I haven't really got into them. I'd maybe pick up a 4000T, but that's about it.

68k was fine around that period though, it was just that Commodore was using the cheapest and slowest 68k CPUs they could buy. Even Apple ditched the 68020 by the time Commodore started shipping brand new systems with 68_EC_020s standard. The Amiga was always about the chipset, even from the beginning, their CPUs by themselves were never that spectacular and industry average at best.

Probably disabled the serial port, try and see if you can just boot it into single user, reset the root password and reconfigure it as needed.
Most dual-socket Unix workstations eat around 100-150W idling. If you assume 200W idle consumption and a base 9 cents/KWh rate, it would cost about $13 a month to run 24/7. Double that and it's still just $26. Wasteful for a typical home server use case, yes, but hardly something that would kill you if you'd like to use it for fun.

You're talking like the budget Amigas were the only ones available.
Big box Amigas that were closer to the price of a Macintosh also used better hardware.

That IS the Mac OS... running in an emulator.

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