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CPUs based on current pricing: >Athlon 200GE - HTPC, web browsing, bare minimum gaming (can be OC'd on some MSI mobos) >R3 2200G - Recommended minimum gaming >R5 2600/X - Good gaming & multithreaded work use CPUs >i7-9700k/8700k - Extreme setup with RTX 2080/Ti >R7 2700/X - Best high-end CPU on a non-HEDT platform >Threadripper/Used Xeon - HEDT
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Graphics cards based on current pricing: >Used cards can be had for a steal; inquire about warranty 1080p >GTX 1060, RX 570, RX 580 for older or less demanding titles >RTX 2060 thanks to 6gb VRAM is only good as a short-term solution; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 1440p >RTX 2060 thanks to 6gb VRAM is only good as a short-term solution; consider 1070/Ti or Vega 56 if on sale >RTX 2080 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerate and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4k) >RTX 2080 >RTX 2080 Ti is better, but very expensive
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 256GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor >Bottleneck checkers are worthless >rentry.co/pcbg-more
im so sick of trying to find the perfect ips monitor for 1440p gayming. the only one that is close is the PG279QZ but its just OKAY. VA is out of the question due to slow response.
tell me why I shouldn't give up this retardation and just buy two TN monitors?
Colton Gonzalez
Why isn't the 2070 recommended anymore? It's like a 2060 without any VRAM issues.
Justin Sullivan
There's no vram issues. Post the benchmarks if it has.
Josiah Campbell
Have you ever owned a high refresh monitor?
Noah Diaz
>All this 1070Ti vs 2060 posts >I can't buy a graphics card until I know the outcome >been like this for a few weeks now >I can't seem to pull the trigger on either >Even professional reviewers don't know if the 6GB will last
Will I be fine if I purchase another 2x 4Gb DRR4 2666 kit to full up my 4 ram slots without any compatibility issues? Or should I sell my current 2x 4Gb kit and then buy a 2x8Gb kit? Maybe even at higher clocked l?
Evan Taylor
I think you were told pretty definitively what to buy last thread.
I dont know for sure but i'd bet it just means there's some DRAM and NAND on it. It's probably overkill whatever it is since in the end its still a harddrive
Nicholas Wood
Do we seriously need to have the OP change the 2060 section every thread
Benjamin Roberts
Then you probably wouldn't have an eye for the performance related deficiencies of high refresh IPS. If you are just worried about IPS glow or something then yeah get TN since its cheaper
Lincoln Price
basically i bought one assuming it was 7200rpm. Now I'm worried i'll be stuck with a slow drive. Though I haven't booted my pc yet so if it is in fact shit perhaps i could get a replacement
Gabriel Flores
It should just be removed. The 6GB of VRAM is literally a giant "DON'T BUY ME UNLESS YOU ARE INTO CUcKOLDRY" sign. No one is retarded enough to buy it unironically.
Actually believing that 6GB of VRAM is a problem (especially at 1080p) is just a giant "I'm so stupid that I love to get fucked in the ass like the dumb whore that I am" sign
Nicholas Bennett
Is it okay to buy cards that have been used for mining if it has warranty still
Nolan Clark
>Tech Jesus art. Quite the Michelangelo.
Juan Clark
Higher clock would be nice. Ram works faster and better if you stick to dual rather than quad. So 2x8gb would be better
Charles Brooks
So I did some proper testing and the contrast is absolute ass on TN panels, I don't know who memed me into saying TN panels have better contrast than IPS but I hope they get touched by big black men and by touch I mean BUGGERED pic related is from the third Hobbit movie, the gold from Smaug's lair looks fucking orange in TN. Even the reflection of it on that archway doesn't look like gold.
Get the XB271HU, it's got the slimmest bezels and the BLB lottery is less bad here. If you want to see why you shouldn't get TN, refer to my comparisons above.
Camden Campbell
KG271U. You won’t be disappointed.
Charles Cox
I'll see your cherrypicked, out of context cropped screenshot and raise you whole video with in depth analysis proving that 6GB of VRAM isn't a problem at 1440p youtube.com/watch?v=pfnzHA3-MhM
Anthony Clark
Depends of the brand
William Williams
please stop shilling this overpriced monitor
Xavier Hernandez
>it's like a 2060 except twice as expensive Yeah I wonder why it's not in the OP, retard
Josiah Wood
No one asked you, poorfag. Go play with your TN panels. Refute my comparisons above or go fuck yourself, I've had enough of the TN memes. He can certainly afford it so there's no reason not to get it
Liam Nguyen
What's the most silent HDD? I was thinking 2.5" 5400RPM
Jacob Robinson
>recommends TN panel when he asks for an IPS monitor gee
Wyatt Perry
you wanna tell us what TN you used for your comparison?? For all we know you're comparing some TN from 2004 to a IPS from 2018.
Leo Reyes
That is probably correct
Aiden White
is 411 w/ tax a good price on a 1080? its a triple fan rog strix.
Luis Anderson
Yeah it's got freesync+LFC which means good gsync compatibility
Austin Harris
The TN panel is 24GM79G, released in 2017. The IPS panel is the U2312HM from 2011. Don't get me wrong man, TN comes close after calibrations but it's no match for IPS colors and contrast. I've seen that for myself.
Blake Williams
I fell for the ips meme and spent $562 (tax included). The BLB isn't that bad and it really does have slim bezels. Pic related is at 100% brighness. T. Xb271hu owner
Yeah, it's just a bit more expensive than the 2060 while having more vram. Strix are very good too
Ryder Collins
Yes, these tests are redundant. Pictures taken with black displays aren't the same. Minor BLB is real but not a problem when you're actually using your monitor. Excellent price btw, that thing goes for $670 here.
Joshua Price
I've been looking into monitors for over two weeks now and it seems impossible to find a good IPS. The PG279QZ seems okay but ips bleed lottery is real and I don't think something that costs 600 dollars should have such a huge potential imperfection. Same goes for that acer monitor that's always mentioned (which got a bad review:rtings.com/monitor/reviews/acer/predator-xb271hu). VA would be perfect if the response times weren't garbage.
So I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place and I don't understand why this huge industry can't come up with something close to perfect. For CPUs and GPUs its easy. You get what you pay for. Spend 1k on a threadripper and you easily have the best consumer CPU with no drawbacks. Spend 600-1000 on a high end IPS monitor and there are issues no matter what.
Jace James
See how awful this is? How can you enjoy dark scenes in movies/games with such a noticeable flaw.
Cameron Reed
left is definitely better for gay men (actual games, not interactive movies) because you can see more.
Ryder Hill
I can't see the model number in the ebay page, only the item number 232851273320
Isaac Baker
Never built a pc before, now I want one because fuck editing video on my 5 year old laptop with integrated graphics.
r8 pls no bully, AMD GPU is there for compatibility with macOS. Or should I wait for Radeon VII? 36,786 Pablocoins = $1930
Thanks B&H had a sale around black friday. Shipping was free but took almost a whole month to be delivered because of the backorder, but it was worth it. I don't notice the blb flaw at all in a pitch dark room but then again I use my monitor at 20%. Full brightness hurts my eyes. Pic related is at 0% brightness.
i feel pretty good about having opted for the RX580. Got it cheap with two games I actually wanted, and it should see me through until a GPU emerges that feels like a no compromise upgrade at a reasonable price. 4K can remain a meme for now, and I don't see 1440p as a big upgrade over 1080p
Ian Richardson
Shit looks oversaturated and I definitely don't have any problems seeing demons in Doom. See wew like I said, it looks worse in photos. It's not a concern when you're actually using it. See , it's magically gone.
Easton Rogers
use crystaldiskinfo
Brandon Cooper
>intel shitty housefire
Luis Myers
I'm not going AMD for the processor. Installing Mac on that shit is a pain in the ass.
Michael Myers
You can flash a 56 to perform like the 64. The Vega 64 Is a waste of money. Also do you intend to put games on the SSD. It's better to get a 256 minimum unless your SSD is solely for OS
Asher Gray
should my psu fan be facing up or down?
Jose Jenkins
>You can flash a 56 to perform like the 64 Does that work with Mac? >The Vega 64 Is a waste of money So do I just wait for Radeon VII? There are a couple resellers online in my shithole but they're pricing it at about $950 instead of $700, so I'm not buying that right now.
>Also do you intend to put games on the SSD No, that's what the 2TB HDD is for, the 2.5 SSD is for Windows 10 and the M.2 is for Mac.
Tyler Ward
With games it's not so big an upgrade. Ultrawide displays have a higher resolution minimum (2560x1080) which is more demanding than 1080p, which is why it's convenient to aim for 2K performance in those situations. Otherwise it's not that much of a big deal.
John Anderson
>>You can flash a 56 to perform like the 64 >Does that work with Mac? Don't know. Why the hell are you using Mac in the first place? >>The Vega 64 Is a waste of money >So do I just wait for Radeon VII? , If it's a good price yeah but I'm sure you'll find a cheaper Vega 56. Also what's wrong with Nvidia? >>Also do you intend to put games on the SSD >No, that's what the 2TB HDD is for, the 2.5 SSD is for Windows 10 and the M.2 is for Mac. Some games loading time can be cut from a minute or half all the way down to a few seconds. It's considerable with certain games with long load times or frequent loading screens.
Aiden Williams
Ignore that 'bad review', it's good for use. Rtings is always harsh, you can go to your local computer store and then get it tested right there, if it's shit you can get it replaced immediately. It's what I will do when I get my Acer one next week. Dealing with potential issues at the onset vs living with trash visuals for life, it's an easy choice.
William Reyes
I'm sorry I forgot to mention that I already have an 2x8Gb kit in dual channel. I am looking to upgrade up to 16Gb and trying to get my head around any issues to do with running two different 2x kits for 4x4gb dual channel memory.
Christopher Edwards
Can I change my optical drive drive letter without it being an issue???? Thank s
>Why the hell are you using Mac in the first place? Video editing and audio production. >Also what's wrong with Nvidia? No support from Applel. Editing comes first and gaming second, I would basically waste my money and be stuck with integrated graphics unless I booted into Windows. >Some games loading time can be cut from a minute or half all the way down to a few seconds I do want to be able to play games smoothly but like I was saying it's not an absolute priority. Also I don't mind waiting.
Luis Rogers
If you already got 2xigb just use that. And sell your 4gbs. There is no benefit to it. Only cons.
William Phillips
Yes Good luck. I don't have the knowledge to help you sorry.
Caleb Jackson
Yes, you just format it and choose a letter iirc
Aiden Gomez
i just installe the new hard drive and want the hard drive to have the letter D: but the optical drive have that so i wanted to change optical drive to E:
William Fisher
Nothing wrong with the 1060. I have one in my other rig and a 1080 ti in my main rig and there isn't really a difference for 1080p gaming
Elijah Cooper
Depends on set up. The fan pulls in and exhausts out the back.
Elijah Myers
Hackintosh has a cool thing (well, actually its bootloader, Clover) where you can test out a VBIOS, so if it doesn't work, you just gotta restart the PC.
Jace Lewis
it's currently facing up pulling in hot air from the gpu but the alternative is to have the psu fan choked against the case
Nathan Gray
Thanks, if I had the money I would absolutely buy a Vega 64 + 2080 Ti, each for its respective OS (if it's even possible to get that working), but for now I just gotta figure out the sweet spot between Hackintosh and Gayming PC.
>where you can test out a VBIOS I actually don't know what this is or means, care to enlighten me?
Jonathan Evans
Since he told you you could flash a Vega 56 so it could become a Vega 64, you need to flash a VBIOS for that. Clover has an option that lets you load that VBIOS without using a program to flash it and having to flash back whatever if it doesn't work.
I used it for instance to fake a different model of the same card (a 280X) which was giving me compatibility issues, without having the need to flash it so Windows could still enjoy the normal card. I could also do some testing with different modded VBIOS. Problem with macOS: It doesn't have that many tools for stress testing.
Besides if you're going to buy a GPU for hackintosh alone, don't go that far. Games on hackintosh run like absolute ass even on high end GPUs, you'd be wasting some mad money. I would even argue your iGPU is good enough for it.
Elijah Murphy
are there any good keyboard and mouse options that actually look like they were designed for adults? Preferably not ridiculously expensive either
Carson Jackson
cut a hole in the bottom for it to pull air in through
William Morgan
sheesh just buy Nvidia. why bother with all this tinkering crap
Grayson Bennett
You're shit out of luck, they don't usually design much for manchildren pretending to be adults.
Kayden Gonzalez
>Besides if you're going to buy a GPU for hackintosh alone, don't go that far. Games on hackintosh run like absolute ass even on high end GPUs No I just want to render video super fucking fast. And what do you mean by "Games on hackintosh"? You thought I was trying to play vidya on Mac? I'm going to dual boot.
Asher Roberts
My goal here was to build something that >is 500 or less >is small enough to mail or pack easily >can play modern-ish games By that last point, I mean it isn't a deal breaker if I couldn't run the F1 2018 at 60+ fps, etc.
>I'll see your cherrypicked, out of context cropped screenshot and raise you whole video with in depth analysis proving that 6GB of VRAM isn't a problem at 1440p It's what AMD fags always do.
Matthew Jackson
>No I just want to render video super fucking fast. Generally Windows is still faster when comparing the same software being used. Not much of a reason unless you stick to a macOS exclusive like FCPX.
Lucas Rogers
>Generally Windows is still faster when comparing the same software being used Except when the software isn't available for Winblows. >FCPX Yep, that is exactly what I use.
PSUs can handle a lot of heat. some second hand GPU air isn't going to kill it. The PS3 slim and PS4 airflow design vents the entirety of the 200watt CPU+GPU's heat into the PSU and the PS3's main heat related failure is the GPU solder balls melting, not even the PSU.
Nicholas Brown
You can achieve that effect with a ICC profile and some settings, maybe adding "digital vibrance" for saturation.
Brandon Gonzalez
Is this a decent OC for a 1080ti? Do the number look right or did I do it wrong?
Whoa. 139MHz might be the fastest anyone has ever got a GPU to go.
Samuel Clark
eh the APU will limit you quickly. try seeing if you could go rx570 instead with a different cpu
Benjamin Jackson
I meant the OC numbers m8. I just finished a testing session of 3hrs of Hunt:Showdown (gpu sits around 98%) And she’s stable as. Was just wondering if it’s worth trying to push the numbers. Only other person I could find online has 60/350
Jason Edwards
Kind of tech related and kind of /v/ related but you guys are smart so ill ask here, i want to create a new library folder in steam on my HDD for general games storage (was storing them on a single ssd till now) do i need to create a folder titled "Steam" in my Hard drive first or will steam automatically take care of that when I select the drive for install?
Nathan Fisher
You have to create and select a new folder in that drive. No need to call it steam.
Hudson Smith
Steam will automatically make a “steam” folder when you designate a new drive library
Logan Miller
is it really recommended to upgrade the cooler for a ryzen 2600? I don't plan to OC unless I can no longer hit 60fps at 1080p
Daniel Gutierrez
I've been waiting for Navi for so long I realized I no longer want a powerful GPU. What's the point when games in 2019 are no longer worthy of interest? Cute girl.
Jaxon Mitchell
if you arent OCing youre good with the stock cooler
Camden Richardson
I've had a 2600 for a day and the cooler was on the noisier side. May want to replace it if you care about that.
Adrian Rodriguez
Not everything decent is announced a year in advance.
Charles Watson
Is the 2070 not worth buying at all? >not that anything that has come out lately is