I get all my parts together and always find myself around $2k for a smallformfactor pc build just to hit all those bells and whistles. Then I see these prebuilts that are close to what I would like in a build.
The only perk I see when building a pc nowadays is just the satisfaction of putting all the pieces together yourself the way you want it. What's your opinion?
>pic related
Lenovo's mini fridge C730
NVIDIA RTX 2070 Graphics
16.0GB
i7-9700K
Rougly $1700
I've been feeling the same way the past couple years.
Prebuilts are becoming ever more attractive.
prebuilt is better
only atheist fedora neckbeard will disagree
>16.0GB
>Rougly $1700
yeah no!
for that price you should have min 32gb of Random Access Memory!
Buy pre-built if you want, build one yourself if you want.
Do what you enjoy.
You fucking Aspies.
Assembly and warranty should be free
I only use GNU assembly service in africa that respects my right to free labor
you'll get a chinese $10 power supply that's gonna fry your system in a year and a half
The price of RAM is a little ridiculous. I see where you can come from. I'm looking at the heavy hitters like the gpu/cpu and the overall case.
Ooga booga!
Then you yell at the customer service rep to fix your shit while under warranty.
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>Then you yell at the customer service rep to fix your shit while under warranty.
I would rather not have to fight for a warranty fix after 1.5 years with a fried hard drive and gigs of lost hurtcore from tor
I am also worried about their own branding power supplies as well as "stock" coolers for their cpu's. That's when the warranty is nice to consider because a big company is sponsoring their product.
That or just generally sending out your entire PC to be fixed.
>their own branding power supplies
it's the cheapest power supply from china they could find, with a sticker of their logo on it
>That or just generally sending out your entire PC to be fixed.
it's like you want to go to prison
The catch is not to have child porn on your computer.
Are you implying you keep child porn on your computer?
Are you implying you wouldn't inform the authorities if you found child porn on a computer you were working on?
The thing about prebuilts is that they'll hype up the components that they know normies will get excited about and cheap the fuck out on everything else. That's why you see things like a Core i9 >9000K with 76819TB of RAM paired with a GeForce 710. Unless it's marketed as a GAMER POWER GAMING PC FOR GAMERS, in which case you'll spend another $1000 for the same machine with a GTX 1050Ti. The motherboard and PSU are usually the cheapest dogshit they can find with barely-there power regulation. You also can't count on the motherboard or the PSU being a standard form factor, so if you ever want to upgrade, you need to buy practically a whole new machine.
The upside to building it yourself is that you get to choose every single component, so if your power supply explodes in a year and a day, you only have yourself to blame for not buying a nice SeaSonic or the like. Everything is standardized and built to fit a form factor so that it can work with a wide range of components, and thus you can upgrade it yourself easily.
In between these two you have boutique system integrators that buy the same components directly from the manufactures that you'd use to build it yourself and assemble them for a fee. You don't get as much choice as doing it yourself but you get more than you would buying from a large manufacturer, but you also skip the manufacturer's proprietary form factor nonsense. Some of them are quite high-end and even integrate techniques and modifications that the enthusiast community normally has to do themselves, like modular water cooling or custom cabling. The downside to these is that you're still paying them to do something that's easy to do yourself, and because they don't get the same level of volume discounts that the larger companies do, it's the most expensive of the three options.
What's the motherboard and PSU?
Check and mate, faggot.
Quality answer. Thank you.
The more chaotic answer.
build your own, not only can you get a smaller/better case you can asthetically change it how you want.
Pic related, my pc. Cost me around 1000
prebuilds have shit tier components
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Damn that's a nice case; What is that?
Motherboard
>Intel Z370
PSU
>500W "Energy Star"
Yup. That's the case too.
pretty sure it's the GHOST S1 MkII
Ghost s1
that is the gayest thing i have ever seen
$250 just for the case
not today mr shackleberg
$400 budget: build
Have you looked in a mirror lately?
Imagine being this retarded
ok
It's worth it but whatever
Imagine being this retarded
How are your thermals?
high 60s low 70s on max.
Any particular reason why you chose to use a Noctua cooler and then gimp it by removing the top fan? I know it wouldn't fit using both fans, but I've been looking into the super-small form factor stuff myself lately, and it seems like the winner in that category is the Cryorig C7 Cu.
If you know anything about the major PC OEMs, you should know they don't ship junk PSUs. hell even walmart's short lived PC range shipped with decent PSUs that do the job and had the requisite safety certificates.
but oh because it's not seasonic or corsair or some other PC builder's brand it must be junk
ok, buy a prebuilt then
mine exploded within the first week, but didn't fry anything thankfully
I usually catch prebuilts on sale at the specs I want for cheaper than it would be if I just put it together myself. I've crossed over.
I'm only into the idea of prebuilt if they guarantee:
1. Good PSU
2. Good thermals
I want things to last. Otherwise I might as well just buy the components separately. I might go with prebuilt if it's one of these things that are hard to build right.
>Random Access Memory!
Its called RAM. You don't have to spell it out.
completely untrue. OEM power supplies are absolutely fine. Inb4 nonsense criticism like they're "unpainted" or "too many cables". So what?
For system integrators where they just build PCs with off the shelf parts it's going to be no different than if you just built the PC with the same parts
For PCs that come from Dell, lenovo, etc you will usually get a PC with thermals that are designed around whatever the TDP of the parts inside are (they're adequate for most situations basically) as far as the PSUs are concerned most of them are fine and almost all PC makers source them from well established power supply OEMs
prebuilts usually scam you on the memory prices. 16GB ddr4-2666 for 100+ and you can upgrade to name brand dimms for another 130? thats insane.
Some like dells are made by fsp
The ones in 400 dollar crap certainly not.
However, they are built to atx spec and work obvious
Drawback beside nois, shit regulation and meme efficiency is bad pfc that could interfere with audio amplifiers and a lack of or not working protection.
Shit rail distribution or overload can lead to malfunction and hardware death.
fsp shit is sometimes underrated by 50-100watts like the bequiet dark power pro 550
I mean this is all documented
There are EE autists out there benching PSUs on 20.000€ chroma lab equipt
Sure if you like shit build quality, housefire psus, loud fans, terrible thermals, and no OC headroom.
So if you buy this unit for the retailed price of 1679.99
Switch the cpu cooler and the fans for better thermals and noise reduction. Maybe $100~
So you'll pay $1779.99 and you'll just have to worry about basic ram and a mystery psu.