why doesn't this shit last forever?(10+ years)
and why the fuck is an SSD so expensive
why doesn't this shit last forever?(10+ years)
and why the fuck is an SSD so expensive
>What is the most reliable way to store data?
Something for home use you could use right now? Tape with check up from time to time.
This though.
Obviously not an SSD
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If you cared about data, you would have a 3+2+1 backup solution, off site backup, and multiple tape drives stored in a climate controlled vault provided by many services.
>why doesn't this shit last forever?(10+ years)
Which one? None of those is built to last forever, that's why.
>and why the fuck is an SSD so expensive
Because they can, it's called capitalism.
hdd in raid 1,5 or 10
RAID is not backup.
Tape
Tape is rated for like 25 years or so
inside your thinkpadTM
OP asked reliable and is implying that he is concerned about storing data over a long time.
here's your (You) RAID is not a backup
Carve your 1's and 0's into a stone tablet.
Or tape
M-DISC
Blueray disks are cheap now and so is a burner. Take care of them and they are good for 25 years +
>KIMI WA
>SSD
data last in 6 mounth without electric power
>Kimi ha kikoeru?
>Boku no kono koe ga
>yami ni munashiku suikomareta
>Moshimo sekai ga
>imi wo motsu no nara
>Konna kimochi mo
>muda de ha nai
Same reaction when I saw the image lol
What happens if a hard drive is left alone for a long time? Will still have the data or what
an ssd with few writes will out live you and your computer.
thing is your'll run out of space long before its even half worn
Yeah but RAID is not for long term backup.
This. Why burn your data into dye based crap when you could engrave it into stone?
It can be very difficult to completely remove data from a hard drive. Data has been recovered from hard drives that were purposefully blown up for example.
>What is the most reliable way to store data?
DNA
Old fashioned HDD is like a tube radio, still works 300 years later.
LMAO at your cancer cell memory.
backing this the fuck up
M-DISC is probably the best
just bulk price and 100GB max is the limitation
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> why doesn't this shit last forever?(10+ years)
Because shit is complex and can break, the other side of the trade-off of having an INSANE amount of data (as compared to past storage techniques) stored in a small thing.
You can absolutely deal with this by just using more drives and more copies managed in the usual ways - RAID and variants, storage clouds with replication/erasure coding, ...
Set it all up correctly and maintain it, and your data will probably not even permanently loose a bit in 100k years.
...
lol Poo in the loo land has that almost threefold by now
what's the point in backing up if it isn't going to last or am i missing something?
you constantly have to duplicate your backups and restore
carve it into stone
> what's the point in backing up
To have copies to fall back on in case the "original" fails.
> if it isn't going to last
It is going to last really well if you have multiple recently verified versioned copies.
> you constantly have to duplicate your backups and restore
Yes, your original is duplicated to backups at certain intervals or when there have been enough changes. It depends on your policy.
You do not have to constantly actually restore to storage, computing checksums is reliable enough overall.
encode it into rocks
weathering will still corrupt it
You should use Ultrium cartridges, do monthly backups and store them safely my dooood
carve it in stone, it's the only way
Based 100GB M-DISK, if you want to archive something you don't use every day/month.
LTO is nice too, but not many people have to budget to backup to tape
Remember family, RAID is not a backup.
You need 3 copies, on 2 formats. and one offsite (321)
For me, it's Zip disc
i have brand new disks hat don't work, in fact they stop working randomly, and if the drive crashes into them you're double fugged.
the data would be there but bearings would seize and the hdd would be kill
>most reliable
The cloud
The most durable would be cave painting.
>ssds are expensive
???
i have one that kept its content for years without power
The anti-spiral niggers need to step it up
SSDs arent expensive anymore, itoddler. you can get a top tier 1gb SSD for under $250
god why is sata so fucking slow
And back alleys aren't for drag racing, but you know what? ;)
That's the worst possible way to store things...
I have no clue what you might be doing that needs more speed.
But if by chance you have a expensive 8k digital cinema camera, yes, get some NVMe SSDs.
if i put data on an ssd, vaccume sealed it and opened it in 30 years would the ssd still be alive?
>What is the most reliable way to store data?
Triple redundancy.
The actual storage technology is pretty much irrelevant.
Maybe the device still works, but it's rather very likely that the data is lost.
Discs are so expensive per GB though. Shitsux.
Any recommended Blu-ray burner for M-Discs? And for general use in my PC, since I don't have one at all. Too poor for tapes.
>Discs are so expensive per GB though. Shitsux.
Probably just use a sufficient number of large-ish HDD then. Yes, really.
>Any recommended Blu-ray burner for M-Discs?
The cheapest one you can buy. Here it's an ASUS model for around $100, explicit support for m-discs.
> Too poor for tapes.
That is rather normal, tapes have remained pretty uneconomical on smaller scales, even more so if you factor in time consumption.
Phew, 1GB for less than $250. Incredible.
You can literally buy a 8tb HDD with that.
M-Disks should only really be used for archival, if you want to back up huge video files the costs add up.
Its good for documents / family photos / ssh keys / tax documents etc.
You don't need to buy the 100gb disks, the 25gb disks are cheap for archive
QR codes printed on archival paper
this is a real thing, i have tested it before, worked alright
Thumb floppy zippe disquette
I just use an encrypted volume on Google Drive. I get 2TB free as long as I stay a Google Fiber customer.
Brainlet question : What's the difference between USB flash drives and SSDs ? A USB drive keeps the data more than a week without current flowing through it, why not SSDs ?
or until Google decides fiber is boring and cuts that project
or that giving lots of nearly free storage is not profitable
>assuming google gave that much space to be profitable
>well actually they are because datamining is profitable at their scale
FreeBSD + zfs
xeon cpu + ECC RAM
RaidZ or RaidZ2 or RaidZ3
(the level of RaidZ you choose depends upon how many disk failures your willing to prepare for in a disaster situation)
Tape
For my money, record to cassettes. Use audacity to interpret sound data and convert back to documents, images, etc.
DNA storage
Engraved in stone
Printed on paper
Tapes
(in order)
>cancer cell memory.
>Being this bad at understanding advanced data storage techniques
You don't inject the DNA into a living creature you fucking troglodyte.
>storing your files on an organic cellulose medium
>on a strand a dna
>literally an organic acid
enjoy your 2 day/200 year shelf life, idiot. Even hard drives last 20 years in proper storage, and magnetic drives are capable of much more, but paper is guarenteed to fail unless you suspend it in some inorganic curing compound like a polymerized resin or silicone
Burning your stuff on Blu-ray would probably be the best option, that should last at least 50 years easily, probably more like 80+.
Quartz coin or whatever it's called, lasts 10+ billion years.
what about the tape rot
>why doesn't this shit last forever?(10+ years)
Nothing lasts forever, only misery. A good HDD can last 10+ years thou.
>and why the fuck is an SSD so expensive
1. they aren't
2. SSDs are not for data hoarding ya fug
In my experience:
2.5 HDD >>>>> SSD >>>>> 3.5 HDD
>why doesn't this shit last forever?
Entropy.
Data has been recovered from hard drives that never existed in the first place for example.
Tape
Here niggers
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Or put it in pissbook