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Nicholas Reyes
OP is definitely gonna make people mad but i'll contribute
Jason Scott
What's the best sub $500 desktop DAC/AMP?
Is the Fostex HP-A4BL any good?
Levi Peterson
Jaxson Baker
Isaac Hughes
Redpill on STAX: STAX is an old Jap company with outdated tech that was considered high end back in the 1960s and 1970s but sounds like ass by today's standards, so they went nearly bankrupt. They were purchased by a Chinese company for just a million dollars who decided to market STAX to the audiophool "more expensive is better" demographic who buys those crappy $3000 vinyl players, they shill heavily on HeadFi and here on /hpg/, plus they pay Zeos to shill their crap just like Fostex does.
>In December 2011, Chinese loudspeaker manufacturer Edifier announced the acquisition of 100% equity in Stax
Oratory has measured the highest end STAX, the SR-009S.
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It's worse than the HD600. HD600 scored 92 and SR-009S scored 76.
In a separate study:
>The very highest end STAX ($4000 SR-009) was rated lower in blind tests than a $200 K701
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Download the PDF of the study at: mega.nz
Even best Stax headphones sound objectively worse than mid-fi. This is why they don't demo them in store, they rely on the internet to create a sense of mystique around STAX and shill it as the endgame because its expensive, Asian, rare and obscure. In reality its no bass sounding garbage, with shrill highs that appeal only to near-deaf boomers. They have relatively high distortion, way higher than high end planars. And what they say is true, they have no soundstage.
To add insult to overpriced injury, they have shitty plastic build quality that you would expect on cheap chinkshit headphones:
Angel Martin
>canned tea
that's a yikes, right? because I think that's a yikes.
Joshua Adams
Redpill on Sapphire: Sapphire is an autistic NHA who shits up /hpg/ regularly in order to control the narrative. He spams every thread with the same copypasta over and over again in a vain attempt to get people who disagree with him to leave. He will consistently post and misinterpret graphs, and the ones included in this post are no exception.
>Oratory has measured the highest end STAX, the SR-009S.
Price has no correlation to quality. Oratory himself says "The Stax 007 (with the blue-tac mod!!) is one of the most neutral headphones out there. Truly amazing."
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>It's worse than the HD600. HD600 scored 92 and SR-009S scored 76.
And the Etymotic, which this poster also shills, scores a 41.
>The very highest end STAX ($4000 SR-009) was rated lower in blind tests than a $200 K701
>aes.org
This has been debunked hundreds of times, the study does not draw the same conclusion. In fact, STAX were chosen as a baseline due to their extraordinarily low distortion.
Sapphire is mad that he's losing grip of /hpg/'s discourse. He will spam, samefag, and shill, all while accusing the opposing side of doing what he does, pre-emptively. In terms of distortion, STAX measures as well as high end planars, reaching the limit of Tyll's rig - they are audibly transparent.
Caleb Morgan
> they pay Zeos to shill their crap just like Fostex does.
So the is shit?
Adam Lopez
A yikes and a proof that floor user is a dweeb. Who the fuck would buy canned JAPANESE tea in the US if not a complete dweeb?
Xavier Morales
Doesn't Fostex make really nice biodynas?
I'm not too sure about the whole modding culture around their RP line and DAC/AMPs are just DAC/AMPs, but Fostex should be more than alright when compared to most audiofool companies.
Jackson Bell
Andrew Davis
John Bennett
Floorchad is based, never stop posting please
Jordan Scott
Fostex makes good transudcers but even their headphones is mostly seeped in the typical audiofoolery. People on /hpg/ will mostly note on the aesthetic, not the foolery side of it, but the real reason why fostex makes their headphones out of woodcups is that it targets the audience of people who believes wood to have actually valuable sonic properties. It's amazingly dumb.
The headphones themselves aren't anything too special. Beautiful but fragile woodwork, flimsy hinge design, earpads that are noted as inconfortable and in need of replacement for something else by virtually all its owners and sound signature / default tuning that isn't particularly pleasing. They're sold as closed headphones but they don't isolate better than open headphones. How's that for stupid?
Henry Ward
Austin Brown
Jose Watson
What about the Fostex DAC/AMPs?
Is the Fostex HP-A4BL any good?
Blake Howard
It's pretty simple to mod them closed. And the wood does have measurable sonic differences, it's nothing "special" though, just another form of tuning.
Robert Flores
Brayden Fisher
I don't know. You already asked this question, you don't need to ask a second time, I didn't say anything because I had nothing to say.
Chase Nguyen
Your CD might be scratched floor user, that makes the sound waves distorted. Use vinyl
Leo Roberts
Pretty much everything you said is right, but their actual audience is people who are looking for exciting, energetic sound, which those are notorious for providing.
I think people who don't want to overpay should probably find a nice discounted Fostex or even a Denon that doesn't suffer from the hinge issues and just solder top of the line drivers in.
Mason Murphy
But what about them tho?
Is the Fostex HP-A4BL any good?
Jeremiah Ortiz
>my ath m50x broke
How should I replace them? Id like to start playing 2hu soon but I cant reveal my powerlevel to my roommate
>Its the korean guy yells about lolis again
christ desu
Noah Carter
Fill the form in the OP
when something like that happens, I always wonder if it's the same user or another one playing pranks
Ian King
Vinyl was made for scratching
Gabriel Sullivan
Based.
LMFAO at the Stax shill trying to do damage control.
Landon Martinez
no headphones in the vinyl rig
Jace Diaz
D A M A G E
C O N T R O L
Jason Collins
>Budget: 100e
>Location: EU
>Source: dunno
>Type of headphone: I dont care
>Open or closed: I dont care
>Comfort level: Comfy as my m50x was, or comfier
>Sound signature: I dunno
>Past headphones: See m50x
Jayden Miller
Caleb Gomez
>300mW (32 ohm)
Its absolutely garbage. It can't power anything more than mobile headphones. No wonder Fostex pays Zeos to shill it, like STAX.
Mason Long
Fostex makes decent basshead cans but their amps are trash.
Joshua Smith
>>Open or closed: I dont care
wait, you truly don't care? you mentioned a room mate earlier.
If you genuinely don't care like you say
Buy a HD579
They're far more comfortable than your previous headphones and sound better to boot.
559 if you can't find the 579 for cheap enough.
Jace Morgan
Wakey wakey, nostax virgin :^)
Brody Parker
Lincoln Mitchell
Im a simple man. I like Komboucha, Stax, and anime.
Josiah Diaz
More than decent, I'd say. They're probably not for people who don't want to further tune anything post-purchase, though.
Hudson Wilson
Well user, if you say so
Aiden Hill
Jaxson Richardson
What pads do you use? Anything to address the sibilance?
Aiden Scott
Adam Barnes
I use Dekoni sheepskin pads. More comfortable than stock but not hugely so. Luckily, I have small ears so there's that. Those actually are measured to actually reduce the treble emphasis, making the signature fairly linear going from the midrange.
Don't do the foam ring mod. Those head-fi people aren't victims of placebo and it does change the sound but never in a balanced way.
I may be able to find the measurements I'm talking about if you give me some time.
Luke Rodriguez
Ayden Sanchez
Here.
>actually actually
Damn that current brain fog of mine.
Lucas Rivera
And here's stock for comparison.
Gabriel Wilson
Carson Gonzalez
>cardas cable
shiggydiggy
Lincoln Richardson
you like cardas too eh?
Wyatt Bell
Great wire does sound different. George Cardas is known throughout the high end audio industry for making and designing a superb line of interconnects and cables. If (you) cannot hear the difference -- OK. Fair enough. I didn't know what great art was until I became educated in knowing what to look for. But the more that (you) listen to excellent audio gear the more you will advance to a level of greater understanding; greater enlightenment. Bottom line -- Trust your ears and listen to the music. PS -- cable design is based on physics and George Cardas (Cardas Audio), Ray Kimber (Kimber Kable), Caelin Gabriel (Shunyata Research), and Joe Kubala (Kubala Sosna) are all gifted artists and geniuses.
Jaxson Young
Nicholas Anderson
Who keeps posting the exact same pictures every single thread?
Connor Bennett
Xavier Bell
Liam Mitchell
Aiden Allen
Mods?
Adam Moore
Cooper Reyes
Thanks. Which wood is this?
Luis Collins
>Budget
Around $200
>Location
US
>Source
E10K
>Type of headphone
Full sized over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Not uncomfortable
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
MDR-V6, SHP9500, K612
I'm currently thinking about getting an HD6XX or paying a little more for a gently used HE560. Any suggestions?
Jaxson Cox
I've been trying to find that information but the author doesn't specify and the head-fi thread is huge.
Mine's mahogany and I never hear sibilance with those pads unless I start playing with the foam rings which, again, is pointless.
Isaac Bennett
And note that the author didn't achieve a good seal with the stock pads so bass with the stock pads is in reality much more similar to Dekoni.
Dylan Sanders
Best headphones to watch movies with?
Elijah Brooks
AKG's K7something line has been pretty notorious for that. They're pretty cheap depending on where you live.
Zachary Lee
>Who keeps posting the exact same pictures every single thread?
>Mods?
You're new, ain't you?
I don't mind floor user being here and don't want him permanently removed. But I do find it fun when he gets banned and temporarily removed, it shows who he has been posting as. He never associates his text posting with his pic spamming so people don't realize how much of a troll he really is.
Adam Carter
Best headphones to use when driving?
Hudson Jenkins
nice try floorfag
Lincoln Nelson
Something with good isolation. Dont want to hear that road noise.
Andrew Thompson
>Dont want to hear that road noise.
lol you are retarded
I don't know about your country, but in mine, this is illegal. Cops will arrest you and write down a ticket if you do that here. You're not supposed to isolate yourself from the road like wearing headphones or IEMs. When ambulances and cops are putting their sirens on you are to immediately make room for them to pass you.
Connor Sanders
Jonathan Sanchez
He's clearly joking, dumbass.
Nathaniel Wood
Evan Clark
Charles Reed
>tiny circuitry handles several ghz of signal in your computer flawlessly
>nah need a bulky as fuck power hungry cable for a few fucking hertz
A U D I O P H O O L S
Kayden Jenkins
>Budget
150€
>Location
EU
>Source
Integrated sound card
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Can wear for multiple hours without ears hurting
>Sound signature
Preferably neutral, but i don't have much experience with headphones so I'll take whatever
>Past headphones
HD 558
Planning to buy headphones for work, so preferably almost no sound leakage and as comfy as the HD 558s.
Currently thinking about DT 770s, but unsure whether the volume would be enough on a integrated sound card and whether the sound doesn't leak too much.
David Perry
There's no situation in which you look good with this.
As a joke no one is going to laugh at this. As a troll this is "merely pretending" level. As a serious question it's retarded big time. Either way it's full retarded and the dumbass isn't where you think he is.
And we see that level of genuine stupidity all the time on here so asking people to distinguish between it and merely-pretending-teehee isn't helpful.
Jordan James
Jordan Thompson
The box looks cool. The rule of cool is superior to the level of what passes off as humor on this board.
Connor Cox
wat
Cameron Williams
huh?
Jordan Martinez
So which sub 500US$ desktop DAC/AMP do you guys recommend?
I'm in the US.
James Ward
Oliver Murphy
Stupid to ask here:
Best Bluetooth headset within Bluetooth limitations supporting aac?
Jacob Hughes
My Stax are starting to have this horrible static.
What the hell happened?
Jacob Reyes
it detected your virginity and is rejecting you
Jayden Hughes
C'mon user, Earspeakers choose you, not the other way around
Brandon Evans
did floorfag just get BTFO?
Kevin Carter
it was never floorfag. some retard is repost spamming his shit for whatever reason
Owen Watson
Headphones while driving is a joke in and of itself. Upgrade your speakers
Grayson Long
fun /hpg/ fact: floor user has never produced a timestamp, ever. not that it really matters if it's him or not. spam is spam
Robert Brown
>delete images and random posts
>leave the shitty copypastas and blatant samefagging
nice
Henry Ross
People who doubt it's floor user just aren't used to floor user. I've seen a few new pics that he didn't post before in the lot.
Jack Allen
Looking for a new DAC/AMP for my DT1990s. Currently thinking a Schiit Magni 3 and Modi 3. Do these affect the sound signature much? I rather like the current signature of the DT1990 with balanced pads.
Current DAC/AMP is a Monoprice Desktop Amplifier, so it is probably worth an upgrade.
Budget is $300, though I might be able to go as high as $500.
Location is the United States.
Benjamin Allen
nah schiit's about as good as it gets
Ryder Cox
D50 + atom amp
Joseph Anderson
Don't purchase Schiit. Because I said so.
Isaac Smith
Based and objectivepilled.
Nicholas Moore
Noted, but I will keep my options open for the moment.
What are the benefits over a Schiit stack?
Jeremiah Reyes
Nah all old pics
Colton Nelson
>when you realize you fell for the STAX scam