NOTCH

Why the FUCK aren't all phones notchless by now? All you need is a motorized front facing camera with a physical way to pop the camera out yourself when it eventually stops working.

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>motorized
trash

Just bring the bezel back, bezelless is useless.

Why not a simple slider, Nokia N85 style?

Why not buy a 100€ phone with bezels?

Why do retards get so autistic over notches? Who cares

front cameras are for woman and fags
lets just remove them

This

yes, more moving parts in my phone. thanks for spending all 2019 mental credits on this gem of an idea

Selfies are for whores and fags. If you aren't either, your phone shouldn't have a notch. Xiaomi already did it like 2 years ago.

i need a front camera how else am I gonna snap w/ instathots

why not bigger bezels

The moving parts are going to outlast your li-ion battery and it's not like you can replace them on any of these phones

>get phone with a notch
>think I will hate it as it will look dumb
>notifications up top fit weel
>empty space in the notification area filled with the notch
>all programs look fine
>wonder why the shit it's such a big deal

>can't handle more +5 notification icons at the same time because of the dumb notch
its shit

>replace battery
>need to replace thirteen tiny plastic gears a year after

>$350 battery replacement on your water sealed phone, it's already slow as shit after 3 years

No dude you just buy a new phone, welcome to 2019

Why the shit would I have more than +5 notifications that I haven't cleared by then or swiped down to view by that time?
Most notifications I have is when I wake up in the am
>gmail work
>gmail personal
>hangouts
>text alert
>discord pop

Wow like I need to know more about shit

Why not just have a button which when pressed slides out the camera from side?
Have you never video called anyone?

>Have you never video called anyone?

no? Why would I need to

phones suck for video calls
just use a laptop or a fucking tablet

>Video call
Literally pointless on a cellphone.

Fucking this

Video calling is for women and for fags

How about just not having a front camera.

That's mean user. Your mum would love to see your face once in a while...

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>it's mean to not use some thing which has only been a thing for a small amount of my life, and which would absolutely suck ass with my internet connections' upload speed
not the same person

> just use a laptop or a tablet
lul, they're worse cameras

Pedophile.

>Whining about that tiny space for the camera
I'm glad these companies don't listen to useless weeb NEETs

opposite may be argued
>bezel is useless

I had to for a job interview

>implying I didn't use phones with bezel

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Where are you supposed to place front-facing stereo speakers then?

>more than 0 persistent icons
Just throw your phone into the garbage bin, it's infected.

>sensor
>camera
>speakers
>physical buttons
>the place to rest your finger
>prevent accidentally touch
>logo goes here
And bezelless? Nothing.

>You don't need more room for notifications goyim!
You forgot about the sistem icons such as WiFi, time, signal, battery, flight mode, Bluetooth, etc
Some of the notifications most people get are
>WhatsApp
>Telegram
>Calendar events
>App updates
>Missed calls
Then during the day
>Music player/Spotify/FM radio while using them
>Apps to track the weather
>Clover for Jow Forums
>Any other app they might use that uses the notification bar
My Pocophone only has room for 6 icons including the WiFi, signal, time, battery. Anything more than that and it's hidden

Throw your smartphone into the loo, since you clearly don't need anything more than a dumbphone

good thing I don't use speakers for anything besides calling
>rest finger
If we're taking "bezel-less" literally as in the screen wraps the entire edges then yeah wtf but otherwise it's just held as normal for me.
>physical buttons
all I have right now is a thumbprint reader

really,
>neither design is useless

Why the fuck do you need a front facing camera anyway? What are you, an Instagram whore? Just remove the front facing camera altogether. Save hardware, save complexity, save screen space. There, market saved.
Care for selfies? Buy a dedicated selfie phone whose special characteristic is the fact it sacrifices screen space for an additional camera. Don't care for wasted screen space? Glue some reflective surface to the back of your device, use your reflection to estimate your selfie.

Essential patented a thing where the top of the display goes blank and the camera is behind it. So no notch, no motor.

Just remove the front facing camera. Easy.

>let's fix an aesthetic design problem by adding small, fragile moving parts

Look at the XZ4, the bezels are small as FUCK
literally 0 reason to not have bezels that slim
jesus

>What are you, an Instagram whore?
yep
I also record myself fucking girls with the front cam, also for family pics

>Implying I actually want a camera on my phone

I can’t believe people still don’t know how to place it under a screen yet. I’ve had it engineered for about a year now...

This. Slider that goes both ways, like the N95, also revealing a physical keyboard.

Why not use a solenoid instead? They will last basically forever and are incredibly simple. The camera only needs to be out for a few seconds at a time, so it would only need to be energized in the open position which wouldn't consume that much overall energy. A spring would be used to pull it back closed with the solenoid disengaged.

>tfw this is a problem that didn't exist with bezels, manufacturers are literally trying to solve a problem they created in the first place

Testify!
>Euro here, they did the same with power here, first "We want to give you cheaper power so everyone MUST install smartmeters!" when they were installed prices skyrocketed ofcourse. Then "everyone must adapt and use less power, then it will not be as expensive goyim!" we want you to have cheaper power lol"